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This photo showing satellite engineers (for both FY-4A and the mysterious sat flying late this month) visiting nearby villages in one of China's poorest regions leaves no doubt as to the identity of the latter satellite.  ;)
« Last Edit: 01/05/2017 03:29 PM by Galactic Penguin SST »
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Re: TJS-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - Late December 2016
« Reply #1 on: 12/08/2016 02:36 PM »
This photo showing satellite engineers (for both FY-4A and the mysterious sat flying late this month) visiting nearby villages in one of China's poorest regions leaves no doubt as to the identity of the latter satellite.  ;)
A State of XSLC Pads Update:
LC1: LC1 continues to have construction between launches for an unknown reason.
LC2: A CZ-3B family rocket is currently being stacked at LC2 for TJS-2.
LC3: FY-4A's CZ-3B/G2 is fully stacked on LC3.

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Re: TJS-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - Late December 2016
« Reply #2 on: 12/08/2016 02:37 PM »
This photo showing satellite engineers (for both FY-4A and the mysterious sat flying late this month) visiting nearby villages in one of China's poorest regions leaves no doubt as to the identity of the latter satellite.  ;)
A State of XSLC Pads Update:
LC1: LC1 continues to have construction between launches for an unknown reason.
LC2: A CZ-3B family rocket is currently being stacked at LC2 for TJS-2.
LC3: FY-4A's CZ-3B/G2 is fully stacked on LC3.


Isn't LC3 the new designation for the reconstructed LC1?

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Re: TJS-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - Late December 2016
« Reply #3 on: 12/08/2016 02:39 PM »
This photo showing satellite engineers (for both FY-4A and the mysterious sat flying late this month) visiting nearby villages in one of China's poorest regions leaves no doubt as to the identity of the latter satellite.  ;)
A State of XSLC Pads Update:
LC1: LC1 continues to have construction between launches for an unknown reason.
LC2: A CZ-3B family rocket is currently being stacked at LC2 for TJS-2.
LC3: FY-4A's CZ-3B/G2 is fully stacked on LC3.


Isn't LC3 the new designation for the reconstructed LC1?
LC3 is right next to LC1. If you go on Google Earth you will find there are three pads roughly in a triangle.

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Re: TJS-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - Late December 2016
« Reply #4 on: 12/08/2016 02:52 PM »

A State of XSLC Pads Update:
LC1: LC1 continues to have construction between launches for an unknown reason.
LC2: A CZ-3B family rocket is currently being stacked at LC2 for TJS-2.
LC3: FY-4A's CZ-3B/G2 is fully stacked on LC3.


Isn't LC3 the new designation for the reconstructed LC1?
LC3 is right next to LC1. If you go on Google Earth you will find there are three pads roughly in a triangle.

Hm, honestly, i can not spot a third launch pad on Google maps. And our Xichang thread seems to indicate that LC3 is the rebuilt LC1.
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=7918.0;all

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Re: TJS-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - Late December 2016
« Reply #5 on: 12/08/2016 05:10 PM »
This photo showing satellite engineers (for both FY-4A and the mysterious sat flying late this month) visiting nearby villages in one of China's poorest regions leaves no doubt as to the identity of the latter satellite.  ;)
A State of XSLC Pads Update:
LC1: LC1 continues to have construction between launches for an unknown reason.
LC2: A CZ-3B family rocket is currently being stacked at LC2 for TJS-2.
LC3: FY-4A's CZ-3B/G2 is fully stacked on LC3.


Isn't LC3 the new designation for the reconstructed LC1?

Yes.

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Re: TJS-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - Late December 2016
« Reply #6 on: 12/08/2016 06:40 PM »
My understanding is that Pad 1 was  to be built at a location called Qinggangba about 2 kilometers away from Pad 2 and 3 (see http://www.go-taikonauts.com/images/newsletters_PDF/GoTaikonauts8.pdf and the same was told by the member miom70 in https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=7918.0;all). The pad was originally intended for the Shuguang manned space program but due to the cancelation the pad was never built and I have doubts that the same designation was reused for another pad.

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Re: TJS-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - Late December 2016
« Reply #7 on: 12/20/2016 06:11 AM »
Expected launch mission codename is "07-76"

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Re: TJS-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - Late December 2016
« Reply #8 on: 12/20/2016 09:09 AM »
Launch schedule for December 30 (Beijing Time).

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Re: TJS-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - December 30, 2016
« Reply #9 on: 12/23/2016 04:19 AM »
A3265/16 - blue
A3266/16 - yellow
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Speaking of TJS-2, rumors are that SAST is the satellite contractor - which would mean it will be their first geostationary comsat (that is, if it really functions as its public name suggests *ahem*  ;) :-X)
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Re: TJS-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - December 30, 2016 (~15:15 UTC)
« Reply #11 on: 12/29/2016 12:18 PM »
Postponed to January ?
« Last Edit: 12/29/2016 12:19 PM by chewi »

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Postponed to January ?


Well that sure would be an anticlimactic end to 2016.

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Re: TJS-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - December 30, 2016 (~15:15 UTC)
« Reply #13 on: 12/29/2016 12:48 PM »
According to 9ifly, this launch has been postponed to 4th Jan
To land a rocket!


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Re: TJS-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - Jan 4, 2017 (~15:15 UTC)
« Reply #15 on: 12/29/2016 02:08 PM »
According to 9ifly, this launch has been postponed to 4th Jan
NOTAMs A3265 & 3266 for December 30 are still in place at this time

Re: TJS-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - Jan 4, 2017 (~15:15 UTC)
« Reply #16 on: 12/29/2016 04:26 PM »
Just adds to January Launch Madness at least!
First it was November Nightmare (2013), now it's January Knot.  ~150 payloads for the month (if you throw in the ISS deployments as well)
 ???

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Re: TJS-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - Jan 4, 2017 (~15:15 UTC)
« Reply #17 on: 12/30/2016 07:44 AM »
According to 9ifly, this launch has been postponed to 4th Jan
NOTAMs A3265 & 3266 for December 30 are still in place at this time

They are still in effect right now - will watch out if the rumors turned out to be incorrect.
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Re: TJS-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - Jan 4, 2017 (~15:15 UTC)
« Reply #18 on: 12/30/2016 08:54 AM »
Just adds to January Launch Madness at least!
It appears it will settle down in February

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Re: TJS-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - Jan 4, 2017 (~15:15 UTC)
« Reply #19 on: 12/30/2016 11:57 AM »
Well this is a fun one. If they do launch today, China takes the lead in the 2016 launch count!

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Re: TJSW-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - Jan 5, 2017 (~15:15 UTC)
« Reply #20 on: 12/30/2016 02:12 PM »
NOTAMs for today have finally been suppressed before end of window, so I don't think it will launch to-day!
« Last Edit: 01/05/2017 02:49 PM by Satori »

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Re: TJS-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - Jan 4, 2017 (~15:15 UTC)
« Reply #21 on: 12/30/2016 02:13 PM »
NOTAMs for today have finally been suppressed!

That's it then, USA are the World Rocket Champions, 2016. ;D

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Re: TJS-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - Jan 4, 2017 (~15:15 UTC)
« Reply #22 on: 01/01/2017 09:54 PM »
So the next thing we'll know is new NOTAMs? (Just working out the site's article plan).

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Re: TJS-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - Jan 4, 2017 (~15:15 UTC)
« Reply #23 on: 01/02/2017 05:48 AM »
So the next thing we'll know is new NOTAMs? (Just working out the site's article plan).
No NOTAM yet, but they could possibly show up closer to launch time

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Re: TJS-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - Jan 4, 2017 (~15:15 UTC)
« Reply #24 on: 01/03/2017 06:29 AM »
and here they are:

A0009/17 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:N272159E1083650-N273125E1074313-N271528E1073946-N270603E1083315 BACK TO START.VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 04 JAN 15:08 2017 UNTIL 04 JAN 15:45 2017. CREATED: 03 JAN 06:01 2017

A0010/17 -  A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N260808E1142921-N261444E1140013-N255857E1135553-N255223E1142456 BACK TO START.VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 04 JAN 15:10 2017 UNTIL 04 JAN 15:56 2017. CREATED: 03 JAN 06:02 2017 

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Re: TJS-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - Jan 4, 2017 (~15:15 UTC)
« Reply #25 on: 01/04/2017 07:36 AM »
There are rumors of a weather related delay today. ;)
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There are rumors of a weather related delay today. ;)

New notices shows a 24 hours slip to January 5.

A0044/17 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:N272159E1083650-N273125E1074313-N271528E1073946-N270603E1083315 BACK TO START.VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 05 JAN 15:08 2017 UNTIL 05 JAN 15:45 2017. CREATED: 04 JAN 09:14 2017

A0046/17 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N260808E1142921-N261444E1140013-N255857E1135553-N255223E1142456 BACK TO START.VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 05 JAN 15:10 2017 UNTIL 05 JAN 15:56 2017. CREATED: 04 JAN 09:17 2017
« Last Edit: 01/04/2017 10:57 AM by Galactic Penguin SST »
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Re: TJS-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - January 5, 2017 (~15:15 UTC)
« Reply #27 on: 01/04/2017 03:38 PM »
Galactic Penguin SST: I can get the first NOTAM (A0044/17) to come up on pilotweb.nas.faa.gov. I can't find the second one (A0046/17). What am I missing? Or perhaps it was deleted from FAA's site as it's a near duplicate of the first one? (bounding area looks to be slightly different, though.)

I attached a screencap of my search criteria used to help debug.

Thanks!
« Last Edit: 01/04/2017 03:53 PM by ageekmom »
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Re: TJS-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - January 5, 2017 (~15:15 UTC)
« Reply #28 on: 01/05/2017 10:02 AM »
Galactic Penguin SST: I can get the first NOTAM (A0044/17) to come up on pilotweb.nas.faa.gov. I can't find the second one (A0046/17).

Just try Radius 300 NM.
Or search using Locations: ZGZU ZPKM


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Everything looking good for this one in three hours time?

I found nothing related to the launch yet so maybe?  ;)
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« Last Edit: 01/05/2017 01:26 PM by Galactic Penguin SST »
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Per sensors on the ground (read shaking houses and windows): Liftoff confirmed.  ;)
« Last Edit: 01/05/2017 02:26 PM by Galactic Penguin SST »
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Re: TJS-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - January 5, 2017 (~15:15 UTC)
« Reply #33 on: 01/05/2017 02:29 PM »
...and we have the first launch of the year.


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Re: TJSW-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - January 5, 2017 (~15:15 UTC)
« Reply #35 on: 01/05/2017 03:14 PM »
Amateur pictures rocket launch
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Launch success has been confirmed with T-0 at 15:18 UTC.

TJS-2, like TJS-1, is described as a "new generation high capacity experimental communication and broadcasting satellite" in the official release.  ;) The earlier rumors of SAST being the satellite producer is also confirmed (making it their 1st geostationary comsat).
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Re: TJSW-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - January 5, 2017 (15:18 UTC)
« Reply #37 on: 01/05/2017 03:30 PM »
Launch success has been confirmed with T-0 at 15:18 UTC.

TJS-2, like TJS-1, is described as a "new generation high capacity experimental communication and broadcasting satellite" in the official release.  ;) The earlier rumors of SAST being the satellite producer is also confirmed (making it their 1st geostationary comsat).

Do we have info on the manufacturer of TJS-1?

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Launch success has been confirmed with T-0 at 15:18 UTC.

TJS-2, like TJS-1, is described as a "new generation high capacity experimental communication and broadcasting satellite" in the official release.  ;) The earlier rumors of SAST being the satellite producer is also confirmed (making it their 1st geostationary comsat).

Do we have info on the manufacturer of TJS-1?

CAST was its manufacturer (looking back, it took them a few days after launch to confirm that!).
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Launch success has been confirmed with T-0 at 15:18 UTC.

TJS-2, like TJS-1, is described as a "new generation high capacity experimental communication and broadcasting satellite" in the official release.  ;) The earlier rumors of SAST being the satellite producer is also confirmed (making it their 1st geostationary comsat).

Do we have info on the manufacturer of TJS-1?

CAST was its manufacturer (looking back, it took them a few days after launch to confirm that!).

Speaking of these two sats, TJSW-1 was mentioned in the official release to test Ka-band communications. This time Ka band was not mentioned, but instead it will test "high speed/multi-frequency wide-band data transfer". Hmm.....  ::)
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Re: TJSW-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - January 5, 2017 (15:18 UTC)
« Reply #40 on: 01/05/2017 03:48 PM »

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Well, look at the monitor below.  ;)
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Re: TJSW-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - January 5, 2017 (15:18 UTC)
« Reply #42 on: 01/05/2017 03:59 PM »
Well, look at the monitor below.  ;)
Not much detail to see, but it appears to similar to the hexagonal bus used in the FY 4A satellite.

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Re: TJSW-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - January 5, 2017 (15:18 UTC)
« Reply #43 on: 01/05/2017 04:02 PM »
Launch success has been confirmed with T-0 at 15:18 UTC.

TJS-2, like TJS-1, is described as a "new generation high capacity experimental communication and broadcasting satellite" in the official release.  ;) The earlier rumors of SAST being the satellite producer is also confirmed (making it their 1st geostationary comsat).

Do we have info on the manufacturer of TJS-1?

CAST was its manufacturer (looking back, it took them a few days after launch to confirm that!).

Speaking of these two sats, TJSW-1 was mentioned in the official release to test Ka-band communications. This time Ka band was not mentioned, but instead it will test "high speed/multi-frequency wide-band data transfer". Hmm.....  ::)
AEHF/MUOS/WGS, Likely a WGS equivalent.

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Re: TJSW-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - January 5, 2017 (15:18 UTC)
« Reply #44 on: 01/05/2017 04:07 PM »
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Re: TJSW-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - January 5, 2017 (15:18 UTC)
« Reply #45 on: 01/05/2017 06:57 PM »
2 objects have been cataloged by USTRATCOM

2017-001A/41911 in 222 x 35823 km x 27.49° (S/C)
2017-001B/41912 in 164 x 34340 km x 27.46° (CZ-3B 3rd stage)

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Re: TJSW-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - January 5, 2017 (15:18 UTC)
« Reply #46 on: 01/05/2017 07:07 PM »
Expected launch mission codename is "07-76"
Confirmed

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Re: TJSW-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - January 5, 2017 (15:18 UTC)
« Reply #47 on: 01/05/2017 07:14 PM »

This does not look like a communication satellite, but looks very much FY-4. I think they are not using the right 3D model in their CGI, possibly to hide what the satellite looks like.

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Re: TJSW-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - January 5, 2017 (15:18 UTC)
« Reply #48 on: 01/05/2017 07:32 PM »
Strange antennas(?) for "broadband high-speed data transmission" ::)
« Last Edit: 01/05/2017 07:33 PM by input~2 »

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Re: TJSW-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - January 5, 2017 (15:18 UTC)
« Reply #49 on: 01/05/2017 07:34 PM »
Written 102 missile launch from Xichang? This is true? correctly 101
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Re: TJSW-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - January 5, 2017 (15:18 UTC)
« Reply #50 on: 01/05/2017 08:07 PM »
Launch time was 23:18:04.043 BJT
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Re: TJSW-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - January 5, 2017 (15:18 UTC)
« Reply #51 on: 01/05/2017 09:09 PM »
Xinhua
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Re: TJSW-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - January 5, 2017 (15:18 UTC)
« Reply #52 on: 01/05/2017 09:51 PM »

This does not look like a communication satellite, but looks very much FY-4. I think they are not using the right 3D model in their CGI, possibly to hide what the satellite looks like.

FY-4 has only one solar panel, as usual for met sats due to the radiators needed. This one has two. Perhaps a early warning payload?

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Re: TJSW-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - January 5, 2017 (15:18 UTC)
« Reply #53 on: 01/06/2017 05:06 AM »
News video of the launch

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Re: TJSW-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - January 5, 2017 (15:18 UTC)
« Reply #54 on: 01/06/2017 06:28 AM »

This does not look like a communication satellite, but looks very much FY-4. I think they are not using the right 3D model in their CGI, possibly to hide what the satellite looks like.

FY-4 has only one solar panel, as usual for met sats due to the radiators needed. This one has two. Perhaps a early warning payload?

You are right, it's not a FY-4 model. Could be early warning, the angle of the baffles seems compatible with a full-disk sensor in GEO.

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Re: TJSW-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - January 5, 2017 (15:18 UTC)
« Reply #55 on: 01/06/2017 03:39 PM »
Fairing debris have been spotted in the usual area, near Suichuan, Jianxi
http://www.jgsdaily.com/2017/0106/36589.shtml

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This does not look like a communication satellite, but looks very much FY-4. I think they are not using the right 3D model in their CGI, possibly to hide what the satellite looks like.

FY-4 has only one solar panel, as usual for met sats due to the radiators needed. This one has two. Perhaps a early warning payload?

You are right, it's not a FY-4 model. Could be early warning, the angle of the baffles seems compatible with a full-disk sensor in GEO.

Well it seems that you might have just hit the jackpot - the local news report regarding the recovery of fairing in the post above calls the satellite "Huoyan-1" (literally "Fire Eyes-1", i.e. steely eyes).

What kind of (expletive) comsat would have steely eyes installed?  ;) ::)
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Launch time was 23:18:04.043 BJT

Launch time was 23:18:04.0456 BJT
http://www.js7tv.cn/video/201701_75161.html


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Re: TJSW-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - January 5, 2017 (15:18 UTC)
« Reply #58 on: 01/07/2017 07:00 AM »
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Re: TJSW-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - January 5, 2017 (15:18 UTC)
« Reply #59 on: 01/08/2017 07:20 AM »
Apparently lift-off was initially planned for 15:14 UTC on January 4

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Re: TJSW-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - January 5, 2017 (15:18 UTC)
« Reply #60 on: 01/14/2017 12:50 PM »
The thread for the first of these satellites has indicated that an alternative name for that is Qiánshào-3: numbers 1 and 2 were satellites in the Shiyan Weixing series, the first  of which looked very much like the Shijian-11 series.

Has anyone seen if TJSW 2 has been tagged Qianshao-4 or maybe the second Qianshao-3?

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Re: TJSW-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - January 5, 2017 (15:18 UTC)
« Reply #61 on: 01/17/2017 08:37 PM »
The thread for the first of these satellites has indicated that an alternative name for that is Qiánshào-3: numbers 1 and 2 were satellites in the Shiyan Weixing series, the first  of which looked very much like the Shijian-11 series.

Has anyone seen if TJSW 2 has been tagged Qianshao-4 or maybe the second Qianshao-3?
TJS-2 has been tagged Huoyan-1 ("Fire cam" in Chinese),  indicating possibly an early warning mission
TJS-1/Qianshao-3/"Outpost-3" is thought to have an ELINT/SIGINT mission as SJ-11/QS-2

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Re: TJSW-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - January 5, 2017 (15:18 UTC)
« Reply #62 on: 01/17/2017 09:51 PM »
With yesterday's TLE, this satellite is stationary at 107.5°E, with 1.0° inclination.

TJS-2 or TJSW-2, what shall be the correct name?

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Re: TJSW-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - January 5, 2017 (15:18 UTC)
« Reply #63 on: 01/18/2017 01:40 AM »
The thread for the first of these satellites has indicated that an alternative name for that is Qiánshào-3: numbers 1 and 2 were satellites in the Shiyan Weixing series, the first  of which looked very much like the Shijian-11 series.

Has anyone seen if TJSW 2 has been tagged Qianshao-4 or maybe the second Qianshao-3?
TJS-2 has been tagged Huoyan-1 ("Fire cam" in Chinese),  indicating possibly an early warning mission
TJS-1/Qianshao-3/"Outpost-3" is thought to have an ELINT/SIGINT mission as SJ-11/QS-2

Of course it is possible to read too much into names....
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Re: TJSW-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - January 5, 2017 (15:18 UTC)
« Reply #64 on: 01/18/2017 05:55 AM »
TJS-2 or TJSW-2, what shall be the correct name?
W stands for Wèixīng which means "satellite". IMHO it can be omitted.
USSTRATCOM uses TJS-2

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Re: TJSW-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - January 5, 2017 (15:18 UTC)
« Reply #65 on: 01/18/2017 07:00 AM »
TJS-2 or TJSW-2, what shall be the correct name?
W stands for Wèixīng which means "satellite". IMHO it can be omitted.
USSTRATCOM uses TJS-2

What is the designation the Chinese use?

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Re: TJSW-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - January 5, 2017 (15:18 UTC)
« Reply #66 on: 01/21/2017 03:46 PM »
TJS-2 or TJSW-2, what shall be the correct name?
W stands for Wèixīng which means "satellite". IMHO it can be omitted.
USSTRATCOM uses TJS-2

What is the designation the Chinese use?
通信技术试验卫星二号 of course.

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Re: TJSW-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - January 5, 2017 (15:18 UTC)
« Reply #67 on: 02/24/2017 04:18 PM »
FYI I have split the posts dealing with Qianshao discussion into a new thread called "Qianshao military satellites"

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Re: TJSW-2 - CZ-3B - Xichang - January 5, 2017 (15:18 UTC)
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