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LIFE: Official Trailer
« on: 11/01/2016 08:05 AM »
From the trailer it looks like an Alien movie set in the ISS...


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Re: LIFE: Official Trailer
« Reply #1 on: 11/01/2016 08:28 AM »
A very Hollywood-ized ISS. Cupola is three times its real size, and all the charming clutter of the ISS interior is polished away...Why is it so difficult to show things as they really look like?... Reminds me of my first visit to USA and seeing that actual US people looked very different from what I've been shown in movies...

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Re: LIFE: Official Trailer
« Reply #2 on: 11/02/2016 03:10 AM »
this is being covered by this poster:  http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=41540.0
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Re: LIFE: Official Trailer
« Reply #3 on: 01/26/2017 09:16 PM »
Saw this trailer at the theater today... Eye candy!! 8)

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Re: LIFE: Official Trailer
« Reply #4 on: 01/27/2017 10:03 AM »
Okay, so I'm seeing the original Alien rebooted on the ISS? Yeah, plausible because the ISS and its biology lab (which is on Columbus, IIRC) is probably the single best isolation lab possible for a xenobiology investigation.

The bit with them using DEXTRE to capture an out-of-control ARM sample return pod (because that is definitely what that looked like) was a wonderful part of Hollywood reality; I don't think that there's any bit of RL telerobotics that could react that fast! That said, I strongly advise against using a flame-thrower in a spacecraft with an oxygen-rich environment as well as using a rivet gun around pressurised modules.

But I commit the crime of treating a popcorn movie as a documentary, which is bad form. ;)
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« Reply #5 on: 01/27/2017 02:43 PM »
Okay, so I'm seeing the original Alien rebooted on the ISS? Yeah, plausible because the ISS and its biology lab (which is on Columbus, IIRC) is probably the single best isolation lab possible for a xenobiology investigation.


I'm assuming that you are being sarcastic here. But if you aren't, I'd point out that using a space station for examining returned planetary samples is an idea that some people have proposed before:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/4700190_The_Antaeus_Project_-_An_orbital_quarantine_facility_for_analysis_of_planetary_return_samples

It turns out to be a remarkably bad idea for lots of reasons. One of the big problems is that all of our knowledge and equipment for containing samples is based upon Earth gravity. We have many decades of expertise built up for biohazard containment. It includes things like if you break a beaker, you know that the pieces will fall to the table or the floor, making it easy to pick them up, and limiting the contamination to a single surface. Now imagine breaking a beaker in a zero-g environment: all the pieces float around and the material is now in the air and contaminating multiple surfaces.

Add to that the fact that the equipment you want to use is heavy and some of it (like cyclotrons) is massive. You cannot put that on a space station, so that limits your ability to actually analyze the samples.

It's just a bad idea, quite possibly unworkable.

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« Reply #6 on: 01/27/2017 03:12 PM »
 Moon Base! You'd have some gravity; isolation would be easier; etc.  Great place for physics-stuff, too - let alone astronomy.

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« Reply #7 on: 01/27/2017 03:17 PM »
Moon Base! You'd have some gravity; isolation would be easier; etc.  Great place for physics-stuff, too - let alone astronomy.

Cyclotrons weigh several thousand tons. Wanna take one of those to a Moon base?

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Re: LIFE: Official Trailer
« Reply #8 on: 01/27/2017 03:30 PM »
You can do other tests such as X-ray fluorescence... Cyclotrons, which I have utilized is but one method of analysis...
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« Reply #9 on: 01/27/2017 03:36 PM »
You can do other tests such as X-ray fluorescence... Cyclotrons, which I have utilized is but one method of analysis...

My general point is that the technology for doing the analysis is on Earth. If you decide to do the analysis off-Earth, you either have to move most/much of that technology off-Earth, or you have to accept lower quality analysis. That's why it makes no sense. That's why it's a bad idea. That's why nobody who works on planetary protection issues takes it seriously.

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Re: LIFE: Official Trailer
« Reply #10 on: 01/27/2017 03:52 PM »
You can do other tests such as X-ray fluorescence... Cyclotrons, which I have utilized is but one method of analysis...

My general point is that the technology for doing the analysis is on Earth. If you decide to do the analysis off-Earth, you either have to move most/much of that technology off-Earth, or you have to accept lower quality analysis. That's why it makes no sense. That's why it's a bad idea. That's why nobody who works on planetary protection issues takes it seriously.
The fidelity of the test will always be a constraint for the amount of equipment that needs to be rad hardened. OTOH I haven't totally heard it being ruled out as of yet...
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Re: LIFE: Official Trailer
« Reply #11 on: 02/20/2017 08:44 PM »
The new trailer is now out and you kind of see what this thing is chasing the crew via a tentacle covering one of the pods Hiroyuki Sanada is hiding in.

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« Reply #12 on: 02/21/2017 11:16 AM »
Another movie that destroys the ISS. Bah. why so much hate against that unfortunate space station ?

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Re: LIFE: Official Trailer
« Reply #13 on: 02/21/2017 11:28 AM »
@Archibald,

Modern Hollywood always climaxes with the destruction of easily-recognisable landmarks. The ISS is the only one in space although I got the impression that the original Independence Day was toying with doing that to Tranquillity Base.
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Re: LIFE: Official Trailer
« Reply #14 on: 03/03/2017 04:26 PM »
There's a new trailer and in this one the scientist is less stupid. He's not sticking his finger into the alien goo when it attacks him. You see that his hand is farther away and it reaches out and grabs him. I think there's also a line about how the alien being is rapidly reproducing muscle tissue, so it becomes mobile very quickly.



[Edited: I meant "alien goo"]
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Re: LIFE: Official Trailer
« Reply #15 on: 03/04/2017 05:32 PM »
Just seen this trailer at half time for the Liverpool vs Arsenal game (which means they spent a bunch of cash on marketing).

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Re: LIFE: Official Trailer
« Reply #16 on: 03/12/2017 11:11 PM »
New trailer. 

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« Reply #17 on: 03/12/2017 11:17 PM »
Another movie that assumes that everything in space is badly lit. 
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Re: LIFE: Official Trailer
« Reply #18 on: 03/13/2017 09:07 AM »
It's called 'atmospheric lighting'. Which is odd because The Andromeda Strain proved that you can do 'dramatic' with painfully bright laboratory-level lighting.
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« Reply #19 on: 03/13/2017 04:03 PM »
I have long thought that you could do a parody of those TV tropes. For instance, have the cops in the super-modern police station marvel at how great and high-tech everything looked, then wander into the morgue and have a coroner cursing how dark it was in there. "How am I expected to do an autopsy in this low light?!" he'd yell, and curse that the lights could not be made brighter.


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« Reply #20 on: 03/13/2017 06:30 PM »
Anybody reminds this ?
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=22690.0

I wonder if the movie makers ever heard of the Anthaeus report
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Still, it would make for a great science fiction short story when the bugs escape and turn everybody on the space station into zombies:  "Houston, BRAINS!  Over."

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« Reply #21 on: 03/13/2017 10:32 PM »
It's called 'atmospheric lighting'. Which is odd because The Andromeda Strain proved that you can do 'dramatic' with painfully bright laboratory-level lighting.

Of course!  Here I was thinking it was sloppy use of cliched images  ;D

It's up there with brilliantly lit helmet interiors and sound in space.

I wonder which was the first movie to introduce this?  Alien? Outland? 2010 certainly had dimly limit interiors.
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« Reply #22 on: 03/13/2017 10:33 PM »
I have long thought that you could do a parody of those TV tropes. For instance, have the cops in the super-modern police station marvel at how great and high-tech everything looked, then wander into the morgue and have a coroner cursing how dark it was in there. "How am I expected to do an autopsy in this low light?!" he'd yell, and curse that the lights could not be made brighter.

I'd watch that!
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« Reply #23 on: 03/22/2017 11:03 AM »
I have long thought that you could do a parody of those TV tropes. For instance, have the cops in the super-modern police station marvel at how great and high-tech everything looked, then wander into the morgue and have a coroner cursing how dark it was in there. "How am I expected to do an autopsy in this low light?!" he'd yell, and curse that the lights could not be made brighter.

Didn't they do something like that in one of the Star Trek movies, with 'emergency lighting' on the Bridge going very dim and Kirk calling that a dumb idea?

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« Reply #24 on: 03/22/2017 04:32 PM »
Why does every space movie nowadays have to leave the audience saying "I'm sure glad I'm not an astronaut!"

Ugh.
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« Reply #25 on: 03/23/2017 08:45 PM »
'LIFE' on the space station: Stars, director talk about recreating ISS in sci-fi thriller
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-032317a-life-movie-space-station.html

Daniel Espinosa believes NASA might forbid his new movie "LIFE" which takes place on board the International Space Station from being screened by the astronauts living aboard the real orbital outpost.

"I think it would give them a bit of nightmares!" the director said. "I would love that to happen, though."

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« Reply #26 on: 03/23/2017 09:37 PM »
Why does every space movie nowadays have to leave the audience saying "I'm sure glad I'm not an astronaut!"

Ugh.

Much like every future has to be a dystopia. Because people prefer darkness to light.  Because, as as a friend of mine aid who writes SF, it's easier to write (and presumably sell)
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« Reply #27 on: 03/24/2017 03:52 PM »
'LIFE' imitating life off Earth: Space Station history 'easter eggs' in sci-fi thriller
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-032417a-life-movie-easter-eggs-space-history.html

In space, everyone can see your homages.

"LIFE," Sony Pictures' new science fiction thriller featuring Jake Gyllenhaal, Rebecca Ferguson and Ryan Reynolds, has been described as a modern day "Alien" set on board the International Space Station. The movie, which opened in theaters on Friday (March 24), follows a space crew as they encounter an emerging life form, not unlike the basic plot of the 1979 Ridley Scott classic.

And that's not by accident.

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« Reply #28 on: 03/31/2017 05:54 AM »
The fictional NASA in Life is run by a bunch of psychopaths and idiots

http://www.theverge.com/2017/3/25/15047980/life-movie-space-science-iss-nasa-jake-gyllenhaal

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« Reply #29 on: 03/31/2017 05:56 AM »
Why does every space movie nowadays have to leave the audience saying "I'm sure glad I'm not an astronaut!"

Ugh.

Apropos to that, here is a comment by a real astronaut. 

http://motto.time.com/4716473/hollywood-misconceptions-about-female-astronauts-space/

Applies to male astronauts too I think
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« Reply #30 on: 04/05/2017 01:25 PM »
I saw this movie only a few days ago. **Spoilers Below*


The beginning was very good. Very awe inspiring and fascinating that they were on the ISS.
But then they manage to revive or create a new life form from Mars. What stumps me is that Doctor Hugh, he right away assumes it's friendly. He tries to pet it like it's a dog or something. I'm like "what? o.O What are you doing!" And later they kind of dismiss giving it food of any kind. It is still a living organism. It has to eat something. No surprise really that it eats flesh since that's what most creatures on Earth do. But then again this fella is from Mars, so can't really compare it to a carnivore from here.

Anyways, just bugs me so much that he pets it. I'm like "nooo! Dx" You have no idea if it's naturally aggressive. And then later their surprised that it attacks. It was sleeping, or hibernating. Then you poke it with an electric wand. Like are you kidding me? If this creature has any form of intelligence, which I must say it demonstrates later in the movie. It sure isn't going to like being poked with an electric wand. Alright that's assuming it actually felt pain when being poked. Many assumptions flying around. I just got to say that guy Hugh is just plain stupid. So many basic safety precautions dismissed for no apparent reason. What does Calvin look so cute he/she/it couldn't possibly cause any harm? Pah, so wrong about that.
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