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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 4
« Reply #860 on: 03/15/2017 01:52 PM »
AIUI, the FH work will be mostly on the TEL side. So most of the rest of the pad people should be able to go to Boca Chica as soon as LC-40 is commissioned.

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 4
« Reply #861 on: 03/16/2017 11:18 PM »
SpaceX Job posting still active after 11 weeks. 

Kind of surprising. Why would this be difficult to fill?

http://www.spacex.com/careers/position/206149

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FIELD CONTACT REPRESENTATIVE
Rocket Launch Facility - South Texas

Responsibilities:
•Overseeing construction related compliance, with the assistance of SpaceX management
•Ensuring implementing project Special Conservation Measures (SCMs) (from 2014 FEIS)
•Providing worker-education briefings that will include, but will not be limited to:
      Information regarding federally and State-listed species with the potential to occur in the area,
      impacts that may occur, conservation measures being implemented, their responsibilities under the ESA,
      and avoidance and reporting procedures
•Measures to prevent wildfires
•Procedures to limit the spread of noxious weeds
•Requirements for safe handling and disposal of construction waste
•Monitoring Construction Storm Water Pollution Prevention Plan (SWPPP) Compliance
•Activating our Cultural Resources Unanticipated Discovery Plan procedure, if needed
•Notifying SpaceX site management personal of any environmental or cultural resources related issues or concerns onsite
•Performing general site administration
•Shipping/receiving
•Day-to-day general site related tasks
•Equipment and supplies management
•Assisting SpaceX employees during initial visits to the site
•Assisting SpaceX Construction Manager as needed

Basic Qualifications:
•Bachelor’s degree in a science or environmental discipline
•Previous academic lab/research experience

Preferred Skills and Experience:
•Master’s degree
•Strong working knowledge of the local ecology
•Experience working with United States Forrest and Wildlife Services
•SCUBA certified
•Strong proficiency with Microsoft Office Suite
•Previous experience as a Field Contact Representative or Construction Compliance Representative
•Previous experience working on construction related compliance

Additional Requirements:
•Perform hands-on work in all environments (heat, cold, rain), in tight quarters or at heights
•Must be able to work extended hours and weekends as needed
•Remain focused while working in hazardous environments, while wearing appropriate PPE
•Must be able to lift up to 25lbs unassisted

ITAR Requirements:
•To conform to U.S. Government space technology export regulations, applicant must be a U.S. citizen, lawful permanent resident of the U.S., protected individual as defined by 8 U.S.C. 1324b(a)(3), or eligible to obtain the required authorizations from the U.S. Department of State. Learn more about ITAR here.

SpaceX is an Equal Opportunity Employer; employment with SpaceX is governed on the basis of merit, competence and qualifications and will not be influenced in any manner by race, color, religion, gender, national origin/ethnicity, veteran status, disability status, age, sexual orientation, gender identity, marital status, mental or physical disability or any other legally protected status.

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We've talked about this before - ultimately comes down to not enough money to offset living in a very out of the way corner of the country doing a very physically active job. I mentioned before I have a friend who'd be a great fit but field environmental engineering is onerous, time consuming and frankly a pain in the ass. My friend gave it up after several years in order to raise her family and run her own farm instead. A let less money raising chickens and selling goats, but a lot more personal satisfaction. *shrug*

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 4
« Reply #863 on: 03/18/2017 02:47 AM »
We've talked about this before

For those new here, the previous discussion.
« Last Edit: 03/18/2017 02:47 AM by ChrisC »
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 4
« Reply #864 on: 03/18/2017 03:13 AM »
SpaceX Job posting still active after 11 weeks. 

Kind of surprising. Why would this be difficult to fill?

http://www.spacex.com/careers/position/206149

Quote
FIELD CONTACT REPRESENTATIVE
Rocket Launch Facility - South Texas

Responsibilities:
•Overseeing construction related compliance, with the assistance of SpaceX management
•Ensuring implementing project Special Conservation Measures (SCMs) (from 2014 FEIS)
•Providing worker-education briefings that will include, but will not be limited to:
      Information regarding federally and State-listed species with the potential to occur in the area,
      impacts that may occur, conservation measures being implemented, their responsibilities under the ESA,
      and avoidance and reporting procedures
•Measures to prevent wildfires
•Procedures to limit the spread of noxious weeds
•Requirements for safe handling and disposal of construction waste
•Monitoring Construction Storm Water Pollution Prevention Plan (SWPPP) Compliance
•Activating our Cultural Resources Unanticipated Discovery Plan procedure, if needed
•Notifying SpaceX site management personal of any environmental or cultural resources related issues or concerns onsite
•Performing general site administration
•Shipping/receiving
•Day-to-day general site related tasks
•Equipment and supplies management
•Assisting SpaceX employees during initial visits to the site
•Assisting SpaceX Construction Manager as needed

Basic Qualifications:
•Bachelor’s degree in a science or environmental discipline
•Previous academic lab/research experience

Preferred Skills and Experience:
•Master’s degree
•Strong working knowledge of the local ecology
•Experience working with United States Forrest and Wildlife Services
•SCUBA certified
•Strong proficiency with Microsoft Office Suite
•Previous experience as a Field Contact Representative or Construction Compliance Representative
•Previous experience working on construction related compliance

Additional Requirements:
•Perform hands-on work in all environments (heat, cold, rain), in tight quarters or at heights
•Must be able to work extended hours and weekends as needed
•Remain focused while working in hazardous environments, while wearing appropriate PPE
•Must be able to lift up to 25lbs unassisted

ITAR Requirements:
•To conform to U.S. Government space technology export regulations, applicant must be a U.S. citizen, lawful permanent resident of the U.S., protected individual as defined by 8 U.S.C. 1324b(a)(3), or eligible to obtain the required authorizations from the U.S. Department of State. Learn more about ITAR here.

SpaceX is an Equal Opportunity Employer; employment with SpaceX is governed on the basis of merit, competence and qualifications and will not be influenced in any manner by race, color, religion, gender, national origin/ethnicity, veteran status, disability status, age, sexual orientation, gender identity, marital status, mental or physical disability or any other legally protected status.

Applicants wishing to view a copy of SpaceX’s Affirmative Action Plan for veterans and individuals with disabilities, or applicants requiring reasonable accommodation to the application/interview process should notify the Human Resources Department at (310) 363-6000.

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1) It's Brownsville TX
2) Construction, although fun and I've done it for 10+ years, is a brutal relentless industry.  Lay people don't understand this, but it's savage.  Amount the hardest of industries.
I know they don't need it, but Crossfeed would be super cool.

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 4
« Reply #865 on: 03/18/2017 02:56 PM »
SpaceX Job posting still active after 11 weeks. 

Kind of surprising. Why would this be difficult to fill?

I'd bet that Dave G just forgot his '[sarcasm]''[/sarcasm]' tags.

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 4
« Reply #866 on: 03/20/2017 01:32 PM »
Just curious when are gonna deliver or install the last Ground tracking Dish at Boca Chica. For tracking manned Dragon flights.

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 4
« Reply #867 on: 03/20/2017 03:54 PM »
I looked back through the thread and couldn't find anything on the landing facilities for this launch complex. I know that they will have and ASDS and they would probably use it a lot due to this facility being planned for GTO commsat launches, but does anybody know where they might plan to put a LZ-1 style area?

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 4
« Reply #868 on: 03/20/2017 04:47 PM »
I looked back through the thread and couldn't find anything on the landing facilities for this launch complex. I know that they will have and ASDS and they would probably use it a lot due to this facility being planned for GTO commsat launches, but does anybody know where they might plan to put a LZ-1 style area?

Look again, it's there. This is Thread 4 – did you search the other three?

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 4
« Reply #869 on: 03/20/2017 07:14 PM »
I looked back through the thread and couldn't find anything on the landing facilities for this launch complex. I know that they will have and ASDS and they would probably use it a lot due to this facility being planned for GTO commsat launches, but does anybody know where they might plan to put a LZ-1 style area?
You won't find anything but speculation since SpaceX hasn't said anything on the matter.

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 4
« Reply #870 on: 03/20/2017 09:58 PM »
I looked back through the thread and couldn't find anything on the landing facilities for this launch complex. I know that they will have and ASDS and they would probably use it a lot due to this facility being planned for GTO commsat launches, but does anybody know where they might plan to put a LZ-1 style area?
You won't find anything but speculation since SpaceX hasn't said anything on the matter.
True, but would we expect them to at this point?

It's Dave G's educated speculation, and is based around SpaceX's plans to build a land bridge southwest of the pad. See this post.

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 4
« Reply #871 on: 03/20/2017 10:10 PM »
I looked back through the thread and couldn't find anything on the landing facilities for this launch complex. I know that they will have and ASDS and they would probably use it a lot due to this facility being planned for GTO commsat launches, but does anybody know where they might plan to put a LZ-1 style area?
You won't find anything but speculation since SpaceX hasn't said anything on the matter.
True, but would we expect them to at this point?

It's Dave G's educated speculation, and is based around SpaceX's plans to build a land bridge southwest of the pad. See this post.

Since FHs can launch from the site, they will almost certainly have a landing zone
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I looked back through the thread and couldn't find anything on the landing facilities for this launch complex. I know that they will have and ASDS and they would probably use it a lot due to this facility being planned for GTO commsat launches, but does anybody know where they might plan to put a LZ-1 style area?
You won't find anything but speculation since SpaceX hasn't said anything on the matter.
True, but would we expect them to at this point?

It's Dave G's educated speculation, and is based around SpaceX's plans to build a land bridge southwest of the pad. See this post.

Since FHs can launch from the site, they will almost certainly have a landing zone

It's fine to have that *opinion* (which I share), but remember you're posting to and between an educated audience that includes people who not only work or have worked in the space industry, but also people who make it their hobby to parse through regulatory documents like FCC and FAA licenses, EPA Environmental Impact Statements and state property records to keep what we all OPINE distinct and separate from what we KNOW.

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 4
« Reply #873 on: 03/20/2017 10:21 PM »
It's fine to have that *opinion* (which I share), but remember you're posting to and between an educated audience that includes people who not only work or have worked in the space industry, but also people who make it their hobby to parse through regulatory documents like FCC and FAA licenses, EPA Environmental Impact Statements and state property records to keep what we all OPINE distinct and separate from what we KNOW.

I know that...
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It's fine to have that *opinion* (which I share), but remember you're posting to and between an educated audience that includes people who not only work or have worked in the space industry, but also people who make it their hobby to parse through regulatory documents like FCC and FAA licenses, EPA Environmental Impact Statements and state property records to keep what we all OPINE distinct and separate from what we KNOW.

I know that...

Then it might behoove you to add, "... in my opinion," "... I believe," or even "... I think" to such statements as the one I quoted, rather than stating something definitive in a thread filled with such folks.
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 4
« Reply #875 on: 03/20/2017 10:33 PM »
In Ian's defense, I read "they will almost certainly have" as "odds are they will need", but YMMV.

Also, why not flip the expectation? It's a public internet forum, and not L2. I assume everything written here is the author's opinion or speculation unless explicitly stated otherwise.

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 4
« Reply #876 on: 03/20/2017 10:48 PM »
SpaceX Job posting still active after 11 weeks. 

Kind of surprising. Why would this be difficult to fill?

http://www.spacex.com/careers/position/206149

Quote
FIELD CONTACT REPRESENTATIVE
Rocket Launch Facility - South Texas

Responsibilities:
•Overseeing construction related compliance, with the assistance of SpaceX management
•Ensuring implementing project Special Conservation Measures (SCMs) (from 2014 FEIS)
•Providing worker-education briefings that will include, but will not be limited to:
      Information regarding federally and State-listed species with the potential to occur in the area,
      impacts that may occur, conservation measures being implemented, their responsibilities under the ESA,
      and avoidance and reporting procedures
•Measures to prevent wildfires
•Procedures to limit the spread of noxious weeds
•Requirements for safe handling and disposal of construction waste
•Monitoring Construction Storm Water Pollution Prevention Plan (SWPPP) Compliance
•Activating our Cultural Resources Unanticipated Discovery Plan procedure, if needed
•Notifying SpaceX site management personal of any environmental or cultural resources related issues or concerns onsite
•Performing general site administration
•Shipping/receiving
•Day-to-day general site related tasks
•Equipment and supplies management
•Assisting SpaceX employees during initial visits to the site
•Assisting SpaceX Construction Manager as needed

Basic Qualifications:
•Bachelor’s degree in a science or environmental discipline
•Previous academic lab/researexperience

Preferred Skills and Experience:
•Master’s degree
•Strong working knowledge of the local ecology
•Experience working with United States Forrest and Wildlife Services
•SCUBA certified
•Strong proficiency with Microsoft Office Suite
•Previous experience as a Field Contact Representative or Construction Compliance Representative
•Previous experience working on construction related compliance

Additional Requirements:
•Perform hands-on work in all environments (heat, cold, rain), in tight quarters or at heights
•Must be able to work extended hours and weekends as needed
•Remain focused while working in hazardous environments, while wearing appropriate PPE
•Must be able to lift up to 25lbs unassisted

ITAR Requirements:
•To conform to U.S. Government space technology export regulations, applicant must be a U.S. citizen, lawful permanent resident of the U.S., protected individual as defined by 8 U.S.C. 1324b(a)(3), or eligible to obtain the required authorizations from the U.S. Department of State. Learn more about ITAR here.

SpaceX is an Equal Opportunity Employer; employment with SpaceX is governed on the basis of merit, competence and qualifications and will not be influenced in any manner by race, color, religion, gender, national origin/ethnicity, veteran status, disability status, age, sexual orientation, gender identity, marital status, mental or physical disability or any other legally protected status.

Applicants wishing to view a copy of SpaceX’s Affirmative Action Plan for veterans and individuals with disabilities, or applicants requiring reasonable accommodation to the application/interview process should notify the Human Resources Department at (310) 363-6000.

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Do such people exist? Wouldn't you need the equivalent knowledge of a civil engineering degree as well as the environmental science degree and willingness to work in extreme conditions? Suitable person for Mars colonisation maybe...

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Do such people exist? Wouldn't you need the equivalent knowledge of a civil engineering degree as well as the environmental science degree and willingness to work in extreme conditions? Suitable person for Mars colonisation maybe...

They do. The job described is basically an environmental field engineer - there's a fairly well-established industry for such folks doing Superfund remediation, especially of old mining and industrial sites. The specific skills asked for here are not that uncommon for those doing wetlands remediation and work around former shipbuilding/shipbreaking sites.

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 4
« Reply #878 on: 03/21/2017 02:25 AM »
Since FHs can launch from the site, they will almost certainly have a landing zone

This is my assumption as well.  Specifically, for FH, they'll probably need 3 landing pads.

The diagram below shows:
1) The launch site layout, taken from the EIS.
2) A land bridge, taken from the SpaceX Texas_Launch Site Wetland Mitigation Plan Addendum, May 22 2015.
3) Three landing pads, which are pure speculation on my part.

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 4
« Reply #879 on: 03/21/2017 10:58 AM »
Since FHs can launch from the site, they will almost certainly have a landing zone

This is my assumption as well.  Specifically, for FH, they'll probably need 3 landing pads.

The diagram below shows:
1) The launch site layout, taken from the EIS.
2) A land bridge, taken from the SpaceX Texas_Launch Site Wetland Mitigation Plan Addendum, May 22 2015.
3) Three landing pads, which are pure speculation on my part.

First, I have to wonder if they would want the landing pads so close to the launch complex.  If something goes wrong on landing you could end up fragging the hangar.  Has anyone looked further up the coast for any SpaceX land purchases?

Second, if landing ops are handled similar to the Cape, then they are going to need a processing area between those three notional pads to process and lay down the cores before transportation back to the campus up the road.

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