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Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« on: 06/28/2016 02:12 PM »
We broke ground on our orbital vehicle manufacturing site in Florida.

The 750,000 square foot rocket factory is custom-built from the ground up to accommodate manufacturing, processing, integration and testing. Among other things, the facility hosts large scale friction stir welding and automated composite processing equipment. All of the vehicle will be manufactured in this facility except for the engines. Initial BE-4 engine production will occur at our Kent facility while we conduct a site selection process later this year for a larger engine production facility to accommodate higher production rates.

I’ve included some photos that will give you an idea of what the vehicle manufacturing facility will look like in December 2017 when it’s complete.

It’s exciting to see the bulldozers in action--we’re clearing the way for the production of a reusable fleet of orbital vehicles that we will launch and land, again and again.

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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #1 on: 06/28/2016 04:45 PM »
The facility floor slab is planned to be competed by December of this year.

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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #2 on: 06/28/2016 06:16 PM »
better resolution
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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #3 on: 06/28/2016 06:25 PM »
Is that rendering of the three Blue Origin boosters in the 3rd image our first look at their orbital launch vehicle?
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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #4 on: 06/28/2016 06:46 PM »
Is that rendering of the three Blue Origin boosters in the 3rd image our first look at their orbital launch vehicle?

Looks like it. So now we know they will use 3 engines on their "smallest" vehicle? Can't anyone estimate the booster size with based on the truck tires wheeling it out?

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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #5 on: 06/28/2016 06:52 PM »
I'll try to measure similar ones tomorrow.

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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #6 on: 06/28/2016 07:00 PM »
Is that rendering of the three Blue Origin boosters in the 3rd image our first look at their orbital launch vehicle?
Could be a teaser/sneak peek, or could be artistic license.

If it's not just made up; three engines, possibly three core first stage?

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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #7 on: 06/28/2016 07:52 PM »
Is that rendering of the three Blue Origin boosters in the 3rd image our first look at their orbital launch vehicle?

Looks like it. So now we know they will use 3 engines on their "smallest" vehicle? Can't anyone estimate the booster size with based on the truck tires wheeling it out?

No need, really. We know the booster would be powered by BE-4.

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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #8 on: 06/28/2016 08:13 PM »
Is that rendering of the three Blue Origin boosters in the 3rd image our first look at their orbital launch vehicle?

Looks like it. So now we know they will use 3 engines on their "smallest" vehicle? Can't anyone estimate the booster size with based on the truck tires wheeling it out?

No need, really. We know the booster would be powered by BE-4.

Sorry for the confusion. Obviously it'll be powered by the BE-4. They've stated that many times. But what size does that make the booster? Looks like 5m diameter and 30m long?

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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #9 on: 06/28/2016 09:56 PM »
according to public records as posted in Florida Today

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Public records show Blue Origin’s main manufacturing facility will measure 725 feet long, 345 feet wide and 75 feet tall, with a “super high bay” rising 82 feet. KSC Director Bob Cabana recently compared the factory's footprint to that of NASA's 52-story Vehicle Assembly Building.

And Blue Origin's Exploration Park plans leave room for an additional 150,000 square-foot manufacturing building and 50,000 square-foot processing facility that could be added later.

source: http://www.floridatoday.com/story/tech/science/space/2016/06/03/blue-origin-clearing-land-massive-rocket-factory/85198336/
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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #10 on: 06/28/2016 10:03 PM »
better resolution

Geo tag for this picture and site for the factory:

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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #11 on: 06/30/2016 08:09 PM »
Is that rendering of the three Blue Origin boosters in the 3rd image our first look at their orbital launch vehicle?

Looks like it. So now we know they will use 3 engines on their "smallest" vehicle? Can't anyone estimate the booster size with based on the truck tires wheeling it out?

No need, really. We know the booster would be powered by BE-4.

Sorry for the confusion. Obviously it'll be powered by the BE-4. They've stated that many times. But what size does that make the booster? Looks like 5m diameter and 30m long?

Using the reported 82-foot height for the "super high bay", I get a booster length of about 70 ft and diameter of about 15 ft.

For comparison, the image below was the "first look" at Blue's orbital vehicle from last September. The fineness ratio looks correct, whereas the fineness ratio of the booster shown in the facility rendering above is consistent with a New Shepard model that the artist scaled up and tweaked for convenience, too short to be a real first stage, so I wouldn't put much stock in it.
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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #12 on: 06/30/2016 09:05 PM »
I measured transporter wheels today - there are two sizes, but I left my notes at work so won't burden the numerologists among us with wrong figures - tomorrow will have to do!

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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #13 on: 06/30/2016 09:08 PM »
Using the reported 82-foot height for the "super high bay", I get a booster length of about 70 ft and diameter of about 15 ft.

For comparison, the image below was the "first look" at Blue's orbital vehicle from last September. The fineness ratio looks correct, whereas the fineness ratio of the booster shown in the facility rendering above is consistent with a New Shepard model that the artist scaled up and tweaked for convenience, too short to be a real first stage, so I wouldn't put much stock in it.

Could it be just the H2 tank and motors? An unseen section with another 25% for LO2 and interstage would seem to be about the correct proportions.

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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #14 on: 06/30/2016 09:21 PM »
Using the reported 82-foot height for the "super high bay", I get a booster length of about 70 ft and diameter of about 15 ft.

For comparison, the image below was the "first look" at Blue's orbital vehicle from last September. The fineness ratio looks correct, whereas the fineness ratio of the booster shown in the facility rendering above is consistent with a New Shepard model that the artist scaled up and tweaked for convenience, too short to be a real first stage, so I wouldn't put much stock in it.

Could it be just the H2 tank and motors? An unseen section with another 25% for LO2 and interstage would seem to be about the correct proportions.

I doubt it, as you wouldn't have a relatively finished booster with engines attached but missing one of its tanks, and why would the artist render only half a stage?

This press release is all about the facility, with other bits stuck on around it. IMO, the booster rendering is a bit of artistic license pasted on for effect. Unlike the rendering Bezos showed, which makes sense proportionally.
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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #16 on: 07/05/2016 10:54 PM »
Ewww.. they've building it with Haskell?  :-X  8)
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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #17 on: 07/05/2016 11:27 PM »
Ewww.. they've building it with Haskell?  :-X 8)
mmm why the "dislike"?  edit:ok..did a search..I think i get it :)
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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #18 on: 07/06/2016 10:26 AM »
Ewww.. they've building it with Haskell?  :-X  8)

I think what you mean is: "Yay, they are building it with Haskell!  ;D  8)".
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For a variable Isp spacecraft running at constant power and constant acceleration, the mass ratio is linear in delta-v.   Δv = ve0(MR-1). Or equivalently: Δv = vef PMF. Also, this is energy-optimal for a fixed delta-v and mass ratio.

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« Reply #19 on: 07/14/2016 08:04 PM »
Ewww.. they've building it with Haskell?  :-X 8)
mmm why the "dislike"?  edit:ok..did a search..I think i get it :)

I'm curious too, and a search wouldn't tell me why. The company is headquartered in Jacksonville where I grew up and now live. Their contract history as reported by our business journal has been quite impressive. The founder Preston Haskell has been a generous benefactor to many important causes locally, and it happens my brother's brother-in-law is their lead architect, a very intelligent and nice man whom I think you actually would like QuantumG.
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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #20 on: 07/14/2016 08:20 PM »
Ewww.. they've building it with Haskell?  :-X 8)
mmm why the "dislike"?  edit:ok..did a search..I think i get it :)

I'm curious too, and a search wouldn't tell me why. The company is headquartered in Jacksonville where I grew up and now live. Their contract history as reported by our business journal has been quite impressive. The founder Preston Haskell has been a generous benefactor to many important causes locally, and it happens my brother's brother-in-law is their lead architect, a very intelligent and nice man whom I think you actually would like QuantumG.
Pretty sure it's a programmer's joke...

Haskell is a programming language that you either have never heard of, love, or hate. There are no other possibilities.

(It's functional, strongly typed, non strict semantically, but with lazy evaluation...  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haskell_(programming_language) for more )
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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #21 on: 07/14/2016 08:28 PM »
Ewww.. they've building it with Haskell?  :-X 8)
mmm why the "dislike"?  edit:ok..did a search..I think i get it :)

I'm curious too, and a search wouldn't tell me why. The company is headquartered in Jacksonville where I grew up and now live. Their contract history as reported by our business journal has been quite impressive. The founder Preston Haskell has been a generous benefactor to many important causes locally, and it happens my brother's brother-in-law is their lead architect, a very intelligent and nice man whom I think you actually would like QuantumG.
Pretty sure it's a programmer's joke...

Haskell is a programming language that you either have never heard of, love, or hate. There are no other possibilities.

(It's functional, strongly typed, non strict semantically, but with lazy evaluation...  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haskell_(programming_language) for more )
We have Cobalt Construction in the primary city that I live in. Im not sure that those two would work well together

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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #22 on: 07/18/2016 04:03 PM »
I'm curious too, and a search wouldn't tell me why. The company is headquartered in Jacksonville where I grew up and now live. Their contract history as reported by our business journal has been quite impressive. The founder Preston Haskell has been a generous benefactor to many important causes locally, and it happens my brother's brother-in-law is their lead architect, a very intelligent and nice man whom I think you actually would like QuantumG.
It's a somewhat obscure programming joke, not a critique of the construction company of the same name who are actually involved here. Haskell is also the name of a rather particular programming language, and discussions of the type "Eww, you're using X language for Y application?" are a standby of programming forums.

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« Reply #23 on: 07/31/2016 09:44 PM »
I'm curious too, and a search wouldn't tell me why. The company is headquartered in Jacksonville where I grew up and now live. Their contract history as reported by our business journal has been quite impressive. The founder Preston Haskell has been a generous benefactor to many important causes locally, and it happens my brother's brother-in-law is their lead architect, a very intelligent and nice man whom I think you actually would like QuantumG.
It's a somewhat obscure programming joke, not a critique of the construction company of the same name who are actually involved here. Haskell is also the name of a rather particular programming language, and discussions of the type "Eww, you're using X language for Y application?" are a standby of programming forums.
If anyone is curious about how Haskell is "different", here's a side by side comparison of a simple fibonacci function.

Typical short Python implementation:
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def fib(n):
 a,b = 1,1
 for i in range(n-1):
  a,b = b,a+b
 return a

Typical short Haskell implementation:
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fibs = 0 : 1 : zipWith (+) fibs (tail fibs)
fib n = fibs !! n

The imperative python program just iterates on values up to the result with a for loop. The Haskell program on the other hand creates a recursive definition of an infinite list of all fibonacci numbers, and evaluates the n'th element of that list. Incidentally it is also much faster, though this isn't really a fair comparison.

In short, the idea space is completely different, in a strongly polarizing way that people will either love or hate.
« Last Edit: 11/14/2016 08:06 PM by Nilof »
For a variable Isp spacecraft running at constant power and constant acceleration, the mass ratio is linear in delta-v.   Δv = ve0(MR-1). Or equivalently: Δv = vef PMF. Also, this is energy-optimal for a fixed delta-v and mass ratio.

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« Reply #24 on: 07/31/2016 10:09 PM »
I'm curious too, and a search wouldn't tell me why. The company is headquartered in Jacksonville where I grew up and now live. Their contract history as reported by our business journal has been quite impressive. The founder Preston Haskell has been a generous benefactor to many important causes locally, and it happens my brother's brother-in-law is their lead architect, a very intelligent and nice man whom I think you actually would like QuantumG.
It's a somewhat obscure programming joke, not a critique of the construction company of the same name who are actually involved here. Haskell is also the name of a rather particular programming language, and discussions of the type "Eww, you're using X language for Y application?" are a standby of programming forums.
If anyone is curious about how Haskell is "different", here's a side by side comparison of a simple fibonacci function.

Typical short Python implementation:
Quote
def fib(n):
 a,b = 1,1
 for i in range(n-1):
  a,b = b,a+b
 return a

Typical short Haskell implementation:
Quote
fibs = 0 : 1 : zipWith (+) fibs (tail fibs)
fib n = fibs !! n

The imperative python program just iterates on values up to the result with a for loop. The Haskell program on the other hand creates a recursive definition of an infinite list of all fibonacci numbers, and evaluates the n'th element of that list. Incidentally it is also much faster, though this isn't really a fair comparison.

It does this by using a higher order function "zipWith" to map a familiar function "(+)" to one that you need: the function "zipWith (+)" which does element wise addition on lists. This way of constructing the functions you need by passing functions as input to other functions to mutate them is key to the Haskell way of doing things.

In short, the idea space is completely different, in a strongly polarizing way that people will either love or hate.
We are all going to all get so slammed for this important off-topic-ness when this thread takes off in a couple of years as its importance arises.

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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #25 on: 08/01/2016 02:57 AM »
Obscure programming languages seem VERY closely related to Blue Origin manufacturing facilities in Florida.

Oh wait...
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« Reply #26 on: 08/01/2016 03:02 PM »
Obscure programming languages seem VERY closely related to Blue Origin manufacturing facilities in Florida.

Oh wait...

Feel free to actually moderate the thread.


I try warnings first. If that doesn't work, moderation follows. By the way, I deleted your post since it's meta.. :)
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« Reply #27 on: 08/26/2016 03:59 PM »
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« Reply #28 on: 08/29/2016 03:14 AM »
The takeaway from this is the development of commercial space means that the days of reliance on government space are ending - commercial space is more sustainable and less subject to the whims of politicians.

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« Reply #29 on: 08/29/2016 03:29 AM »
The takeaway from this is the development of commercial space means that the days of reliance on government space are ending - commercial space is more sustainable and less subject to the whims of politicians.

Finally the engineers (Bezos) and physicists (Musk) are in charge again. It only took what, 90 years (since Goddard), but now the engineers and physicists are a lot wealthier. Thank you, Internet!
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« Reply #30 on: 08/29/2016 11:12 AM »
Ha! The engineers, physicists and other geeks have been in charge many times before. The difference with Bezos and Musk is that they can actually manage a company.
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« Reply #31 on: 08/30/2016 03:33 AM »
Ha! The engineers, physicists and other geeks have been in charge many times before. The difference with Bezos and Musk is that they can actually manage a company.

David W. Thompson (engineer) did pretty well starting Orbital from nothing with two other guys and building it into a big company, but unlike Musk and Bezos they didn't have their own billions to play with.

Even so, I'll readily agree most engineers, physicists and other geeks aren't good managers. We're fortunate to be around to see Musk and Bezos do their thing.

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« Reply #32 on: 08/30/2016 04:20 AM »
Ha! The engineers, physicists and other geeks have been in charge many times before. The difference with Bezos and Musk is that they can actually manage a company.

David W. Thompson (engineer) did pretty well starting Orbital from nothing with two other guys and building it into a big company, but unlike Musk and Bezos they didn't have their own billions to play with.

Even so, I'll readily agree most engineers, physicists and other geeks aren't good managers. We're fortunate to be around to see Musk and Bezos do their thing.
They all have weaknesses.

Musk learned/learns the hard way. He's also physics trained. Bezos is in some ways too smart. They both tend to overreach. Both are surrounded by interesting people that buffer the excesses.

OA has a tremendous amount of pragmatism and as a business is very diversified. But not a push the envelope kind.

As to "good managers", depends on culture. No way you can compare them "apples to apples" - Musk wouldn't be tolerated in OA's culture, Thompson wouldn't even be functional at SX.

You also have to add in to the Musk advantage having been from Silicon Valley and understanding financials / business models / financial structures - you're used to "reprogramming" an industry to begin with. Most space entrepreneurs I've met are really bad in this area, and they think that making it look like a traditional aerospace firm that some home that is a good idea. They had no clue that they were dooming themselves by getting caught in the swampland this way - they thought it was "good enough" and they'd turn their attention to tech/engineering execution that they though mattered more.

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« Reply #33 on: 08/30/2016 02:08 PM »
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As to "good managers", depends on culture. No way you can compare them "apples to apples" - Musk wouldn't be tolerated in OA's culture, Thompson wouldn't even be functional at SX.

Funny how times change. Thirty-six years ago, Thompson and his band of "space nuts" (per the infamous Wall Street Journal article) were the "new space" kids on the block that many people expected to fail, not unlike the early days of SpaceX. The culture was much different from NASA/traditional aerospace, and at the time those guys and the engineers they hired would have fit right in at SpaceX. But because NASA was their customer on TOS, and to a lesser extent on Taurus and Pegasus, over time they had to adapt and become more traditional.

Now SpaceX is setting a new standard in design, manufacturing, systems engineering, vertical integration, etc. In less than thirty years, they'll be the new "traditional," and we'll be looking for the next Elon Musk.

Sorry for the digresssion; back to Blue Origin in Florida.
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« Reply #34 on: 08/30/2016 08:22 PM »
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Finally the engineers (Bezos) and physicists (Musk) are in charge again.

All fascinating insights surrounding Blue Origin's origins, except I see Jeff Bezos as a really, really smart librarian, not an engineer, and in an interview with Elon Musk, he once described himself as "basically an engineer," not a physicist.
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« Reply #35 on: 08/30/2016 09:27 PM »
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All fascinating insights surrounding Blue Origin's origins, except I see Jeff Bezos as a really, really smart librarian, not an engineer...

It's funny, he was an EECS major while I was an MAE (mechanical and aerospace engineering) major in the same class, but I never ran into him around the Equad because EECS was in a different part of the building.

Anyway, good for all of us that he's putting his engineering degree to use instead of just selling books. ;-)
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« Reply #36 on: 08/30/2016 09:49 PM »
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All fascinating insights surrounding Blue Origin's origins, except I see Jeff Bezos as a really, really smart librarian, not an engineer...

It's funny, he was an EECS major while I was an MAE (mechanical and aerospace engineering) major in the same class, but I never ran into him around the Equad because EECS was in a different part of the building.

Anyway, good for all of us that he's putting his engineering degree to use instead of just selling books. ;-)

No kidding, that's interesting! It's still easier to see that you're an engineer, however. I've sometimes wondered if men have been under family & social pressure to become engineers regardless of their true personalities, similar to the way women have been under family & social pressure for decades to become secretaries, school teachers, & nurses. 
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« Reply #37 on: 08/31/2016 01:19 AM »
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Finally the engineers (Bezos) and physicists (Musk) are in charge again.

All fascinating insights surrounding Blue Origin's origins, except I see Jeff Bezos as a really, really smart librarian, not an engineer, and in an interview with Elon Musk, he once described himself as "basically an engineer," not a physicist.
Musk is, in fact, a physicist by training. He does the work of an engineer, of course, but the training is different enough that you come at problems in a very different manner.

For instance, that annoying habit of his where he points out the limit of what he thinks is possible, not the "most achievable" middle. You have to establish limits. That's a physicist thing.
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« Reply #38 on: 08/31/2016 03:41 AM »
Musk is, in fact, a physicist by training.

From what I've heard of his college days, he's a beer drinker by training (aka an engineer.)
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« Reply #39 on: 08/31/2016 02:16 PM »
Stay on topic guys. The topic here is solely the Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida.
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« Reply #40 on: 09/05/2016 08:17 PM »
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Not to derail, but that must be answered. Orbital pushed every bit of the envelope there was to get started and keep running. History is littered with well meant attempts like Conestoga, Kelly, Pioneer, RRC, and Kistler that did not make it, but OSC did, and they didn't have a bazillionaire helping them do it, which also doesn't guarantee success (Beale). There was nothing conservative about an air launched booster with winglets. I think they still have enough of that spirit to stay competitive. They paved the way for the newer space companies.
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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #42 on: 11/01/2016 08:41 PM »
The frame of the first building has been erected. This is probably the manufacturing annex.

http://spaceksc.blogspot.be/2016/10/blues-origin.html

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« Reply #43 on: 11/01/2016 09:46 PM »
Great pace! last month I was there....and this is what I saw:
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« Reply #44 on: 11/05/2016 02:56 AM »
The frame of the first building has been erected. This is probably the manufacturing annex.

http://spaceksc.blogspot.be/2016/10/blues-origin.html

The photos from the SpaceKSC blog are not loading for me.  Does anyone else have them? 

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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #45 on: 11/05/2016 03:29 PM »
The frame of the first building has been erected. This is probably the manufacturing annex.

http://spaceksc.blogspot.be/2016/10/blues-origin.html

The photos from the SpaceKSC blog are not loading for me.  Does anyone else have them? 

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The hosting site (photobucket) was down for maintenance, should work now.

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« Reply #46 on: 12/05/2016 01:56 PM »
I would really like to see current photos of the construction site.  Can anyone provide them please?

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« Reply #47 on: 12/06/2016 01:11 PM »
I would really like to see current photos of the construction site.  Can anyone provide them please?

Attached has been tweeted by Jeff Foust (and others):

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Jeff Bezos sends along a photo showing progress on Blue Origin’s Florida factory for building New Glenn rockets. Completion by end 2017.

https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/806138139463086081


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« Reply #48 on: 12/06/2016 02:09 PM »
Thank you.  Very impressive!

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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #49 on: 12/06/2016 05:55 PM »
A couple of more photos:

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@ClayMowry @NASASpaceflight took these yesterday #BlueOrigin
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« Reply #51 on: 12/07/2016 10:00 AM »
The sizing of these buildings, especially entrances may give a clue to size of New Armstrong. Unless they plan for a whole new facility for NA.

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Great to see new space-related construction against a beautiful blue sky especially from sitting under a gloomy-grey one today in the NE.
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« Reply #54 on: 01/28/2017 05:25 PM »
Snap!  :)

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« Reply #56 on: 02/08/2017 07:12 PM »
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Scott Henderson, Blue Origin: our manufacturing facility at Cape Canaveral set to be ready for occupancy by December. #CST2017

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« Reply #57 on: 02/10/2017 07:11 PM »
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Scott Henderson, Blue Origin: our manufacturing facility at Cape Canaveral set to be ready for occupancy by December. #CST2017

https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/829420457753509892

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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #58 on: 02/10/2017 07:29 PM »
Blue Origin Prepares to Build Its Florida Rocket Launch Complex

Jeff Bezos' private space company is eyeing 2020 to begin flights of the orbital New Glenn rocket.

http://www.seeker.com/blue-origin-jeff-bezos-florida-launches-orbit-2252396999.html

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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #59 on: 02/18/2017 06:07 PM »
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Swung by the @blueorigin factory under construction just outside the KSC gates. It’s taking shape, and it’s big.

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« Reply #60 on: 02/22/2017 11:54 PM »
Photos from this Sunday Feb 22, 2017 after SpaceX CRS10 launch.

Google Maps link

imgur mirror: http://imgur.com/a/MMaNn
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« Reply #62 on: 03/07/2017 10:39 PM »
I had a chance to visit KSC last week, and the Blue Origin building was right there on the road to the visitor's center. That was a very cool, and unexpected, thing to see. The bus ride also took me past 39A and 39B. There is a lot of excitement on the space coast these days.

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« Reply #63 on: 03/07/2017 10:52 PM »
The takeaway from this is the development of commercial space means that the days of reliance on government space are ending - commercial space is more sustainable and less subject to the whims of politicians.

Finally the engineers (Bezos) and physicists (Musk) are in charge again. It only took what, 90 years (since Goddard), but now the engineers and physicists are a lot wealthier. Thank you, Internet!

Mike Griffin is an engineer too. Yet, *he* gave us Constellation/SLS. A large organization has its own survival logic, and logic overrides, it mysteriously trumps everything else, even sound engineering or financial considerations, even when many people inside it understand that it is wrong. Even if the leadership, by all indications, should be capable of understanding that it is wrong.
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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #64 on: 03/08/2017 05:25 AM »
The spaceflight now article on Bezo's announcement includes an interesting tidbit I haven't seen mentioned elsewhere:

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The New Glenn’s primary base will be at Cape Canaveral, where Blue Origin is constructing a cavernous rocket factory just outside the gates of NASA’s Kennedy Space Center. Blue Origin has started preliminary earthmoving work for a launch pad at Complex 36, a former Atlas rocket facility at nearby Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, and plans to install an engine test stand at neighboring Complex 11.
Emphasis mine.

This sounds like they have started some work on the pad site itself, since they are well past earth moving on the production facility. It would be interesting to see what exactly they are doing at the pad. Also, if they have started earth moving, it presumably means that they have also gotten some environmental construction permits, which might have interesting info in them if someone knows where the database is to look them up.

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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #65 on: 03/19/2017 12:42 PM »
Blue Origin Factory | March 18 2017

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« Reply #66 on: 03/19/2017 01:06 PM »
Blue Origin Factory | March 18 2017
... removed link to youtube...

I'm trying to imagine the site facility management weekly status meeting after this was published this weekend.  So much for perimeter control.
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« Reply #67 on: 03/19/2017 03:18 PM »
Wow. Hope nobody has to see a judge for trespassing. I watched this fairly carefully, figure I might as well before it gets taken down. I don't see an area big enough to assemble a New Glenn in there, or a bunch of them.

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« Reply #68 on: 03/19/2017 03:34 PM »
Yes there do appear to be quite a lot of internal supports and small spans. However, when the video goes around the back I think the rear portion of the building may be more open. Clearly they will have room for NG somewhere! Time will tell where that is.

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« Reply #69 on: 03/19/2017 04:00 PM »
Yes there do appear to be quite a lot of internal supports and small spans. However, when the video goes around the back I think the rear portion of the building may be more open. Clearly they will have room for NG somewhere! Time will tell where that is.
There is plenty of room for New Glenn if you compare the current video to the original renderings. I attached a screenshot from the video where they drove around back. You can see buildings on the left and right with a big empty space in between.

The original renderings show the large hanger as sandwiched between the 2 buildings. If you click to enlarge the first picture in this post, you can see the taller supports on the one side of the building that will be for the central hangar. (This view is from the exact opposite side as the screenshot I attached.)

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« Reply #70 on: 03/19/2017 04:05 PM »
Yes there do appear to be quite a lot of internal supports and small spans. However, when the video goes around the back I think the rear portion of the building may be more open. Clearly they will have room for NG somewhere! Time will tell where that is.
There is plenty of room for New Glenn if you compare the current video to the original renderings. I attached a screenshot from the video where they drove around back. You can see buildings on the left and right with a big empty space in between.

The original renderings show the large hanger as sandwiched between the 2 buildings. If you click to enlarge the first picture in this post, you can see the taller supports on the one side of the building that will be for the central hangar. (This view is from the exact opposite side as the screenshot I attached.)

For reference, here is the facility as rendered in the New Glenn video (screencap courtesy of Ars Technica).

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« Reply #71 on: 03/19/2017 04:11 PM »
Got it. Also wondered why there was crane track only on one side. Thought I was looking at two buildings,  not one very large one. Nice.

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« Reply #72 on: 03/19/2017 04:39 PM »
Yes there do appear to be quite a lot of internal supports and small spans. However, when the video goes around the back I think the rear portion of the building may be more open. Clearly they will have room for NG somewhere! Time will tell where that is.

I saw this construction site on the same weekend (albeit from the road during daytime) and the parts already up are NOT going to be the biggest or tallest parts, according to architectural sketches we have seen.  Those will be in the middle, to the right of what is standing, as seen from the road. 

edit:  That screen capture looks to be rotated about ninety degrees counterclockwise from the sketches.
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« Reply #73 on: 04/05/2017 05:44 PM »
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« Reply #74 on: 04/06/2017 08:43 AM »
Construction is progressing on Blue Origin's 750,000-square-foot facility being built at Exploration Park on NASA Kennedy Space Center property in Florida. Blue Origin will use the factory to manufacture its two-stage super-heavy-lift New Glenn launch vehicle and launch the vehicles from Space Launch Complex 46 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station.

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« Reply #75 on: 04/11/2017 12:55 AM »
Imgur album with some good pictures from today, courtesy of aftersteveo on r/BlueOrigin.
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« Reply #76 on: 05/29/2017 09:49 PM »
A very good friend of mine is on vacation with his wife in Florida this week and I gave the poor fellah some homework on his KSC day ;)

Thought you guys might enjoy my assignment to him :) Picture's are from today, no more then 2 hours before time of post.
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An electrician is recovering from a more than 20-foot fall that forced a pause in construction late last month of Blue Origin’s rocket factory at Kennedy Space Center’s Exploration Park on Merritt Island.

http://www.floridatoday.com/story/tech/science/space/2017/06/04/worker-recovering-fall-blue-origin-rocket-factory/368918001/

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« Reply #78 on: 07/03/2017 03:51 PM »
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At Cape Canaveral, @JeffBezos' @blueorigin has made incredible progress on their orbital rocket factory. Shot with my wheel man @JRouRouRou

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« Reply #80 on: 07/20/2017 05:47 PM »
Picture courtesy of u/robilldt on r/BlueOrigin.

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Brendan Byrne‏ @SpaceBrendan

. @SenBillNelson says @blueorigin rocket manufacturing facility on target for Dec 20 opening.

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« Reply #86 on: 09/12/2017 09:06 AM »
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Clay Mowry of @blueorigin on hurricane prep at Cape Canaveral rocket plant, nearing completion: 'We put a lot of sandbags around it.' All OK

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« Reply #87 on: 09/12/2017 04:24 PM »
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The @blueorigin construction site didn't have any obvious significant damage.

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« Reply #88 on: 09/18/2017 06:04 PM »
Some more nice shots:

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For the curious: @BlueOrigin's KSC factory after #HurricaneIrma. Looks OK. Can see inside the massive hangar if coming from the north.

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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #89 on: 09/20/2017 12:48 PM »
The Blue Origin construction site at Exploration Park is seen during an aerial survey of NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida on September 12, 2017. The survey was performed to identify structures and facilities that may have sustained damage from Hurricane Irma as the storm passed Kennedy on September 10, 2017. NASA closed the center ahead of the storm’s onset and only a small team of specialists known as the Rideout Team was on the center as the storm approached and passed. Photo credit: NASA/Bill White

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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #90 on: 09/20/2017 02:45 PM »
great news.  I was concerned since structures under construction would seem to be more vulnerable.

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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #91 on: 10/15/2017 08:11 PM »
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The name is Origin.  Blue Origin.

The name is now on the @blueorigin factory at @NASAKennedy.

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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #92 on: 10/16/2017 11:58 AM »
https://www.spaceintelreport.com/blue-origin-looking-satellite-customer-1st-new-glenn-flight-nice-pricing/
Article says that Blue have started to build NG structures in Florida, so the factory is at least partially operational now.

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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #93 on: 10/16/2017 01:11 PM »
https://www.spaceintelreport.com/blue-origin-looking-satellite-customer-1st-new-glenn-flight-nice-pricing/
Article says that Blue have started to build NG structures in Florida, so the factory is at least partially operational now.
The article says they want to carry a customer's payload on the first flight of NG. That's really crazy
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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #94 on: 10/16/2017 03:25 PM »
Why? Atlas V and Delta IV did. Presumably that customer is going to get a healthy discount.

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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #95 on: 10/17/2017 06:57 AM »
Why? Atlas V and Delta IV did. Presumably that customer is going to get a healthy discount.

The customers for the first flight of Ariane V, Delta III, Delta IVH, PSLV, Falcon I, Conestoga, N-1, Europa, Athena 1, Antares 130, SPARK, SS-520-4, Electron, FB-1, CZ-2A, CZ-3, CZ-2E/PKM, CZ-1D, CZ-3B, KT-1, KZ-1T, etc. were not so lucky. Blue Origin should accept some hubris and accept the fact that their first launch will have a high probability of failure and thus should not fly a customers payload.
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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #96 on: 10/17/2017 09:02 AM »
Why? Atlas V and Delta IV did. Presumably that customer is going to get a healthy discount.

The customers for the first flight of Ariane V, Delta III, Delta IVH, PSLV, Falcon I, Conestoga, N-1, Europa, Athena 1, Antares 130, SPARK, SS-520-4, Electron, FB-1, CZ-2A, CZ-3, CZ-2E/PKM, CZ-1D, CZ-3B, KT-1, KZ-1T, etc. were not so lucky. Blue Origin should accept some hubris and accept the fact that their first launch will have a high probability of failure and thus should not fly a customers payload.
Agreed. And you can add first flights of Ariane 5 ECA, GSLV, Naro-1 and Proton-K/Briz-M to that list.

Blue Origin should be particularly wary of flying a customer payload on their first mission given that it will also be the first time they try to achieve orbit. The recent Electron failure should give them something to think about, not to mention what happened to the first three launches of Falcon 1.

IMO putting a customer payload on the very first mission of New Glenn is an incredible risk. Downright foolish.
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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #97 on: 10/17/2017 09:24 AM »
Why? Atlas V and Delta IV did. Presumably that customer is going to get a healthy discount.

The customers for the first flight of Ariane V, Delta III, Delta IVH, PSLV, Falcon I, Conestoga, N-1, Europa, Athena 1, Antares 130, SPARK, SS-520-4, Electron, FB-1, CZ-2A, CZ-3, CZ-2E/PKM, CZ-1D, CZ-3B, KT-1, KZ-1T, etc. were not so lucky. Blue Origin should accept some hubris and accept the fact that their first launch will have a high probability of failure and thus should not fly a customers payload.
Surely that's down to the customer? They know it's a first launch. If they want to accept that risk, it's their choice.

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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #98 on: 10/17/2017 09:55 AM »
It is possible Blue Origin will put New Glenn through a few suborbital launches with a simulated upperstage/payload before the first orbital launch, just to work out the bugs with recovery and reduce risk. I would be surprised in fact if this was not the plan. They haven't shown any evidence of being recklesssly hasty yet.
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« Reply #99 on: 10/17/2017 10:22 AM »
They haven't shown any evidence of being recklesssly hasty yet.
Understatement of the day.
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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #100 on: 10/17/2017 10:28 AM »
It is possible Blue Origin will put New Glenn through a few suborbital launches with a simulated upperstage/payload before the first orbital launch, just to work out the bugs with recovery and reduce risk. I would be surprised in fact if this was not the plan. They haven't shown any evidence of being recklesssly hasty yet.
I'll point out that most of the up-thread mentioned first-flight failures were NOT the result of reckless haste.
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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #101 on: 10/20/2017 02:03 PM »
Said in a Blue Origin thread:

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Saw the ceiling cranes being delivered this morning at the factory under construction just outside KSC.

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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #102 on: 10/21/2017 03:13 PM »
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A sign of the times ... @blueorigin  sign now at main entrance.

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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #103 on: 10/21/2017 03:18 PM »
Steven C. Smith @WordsmithFL

The ceiling cranes delivered yesterday to the @blueorigin factory. https://t.co/nwaBgwPLvB
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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #104 on: 10/21/2017 11:14 PM »
My god those things are massive...   :o

Did somebody accidentally spec for fully fueled weight instead of dry weight? lol

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Re: Blue Origin Manufacturing site in Florida
« Reply #105 on: 10/22/2017 01:25 PM »
My god those things are massive...   :o

Did somebody accidentally spec for fully fueled weight instead of dry weight? lol
Maybe they spec'ed it (and the ceiling height, and the doors) to be big enough for their next rocket..

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