Author Topic: SpaceX Falcon 9 (F9-S1-0024) Reuse Testing Coverage  (Read 63220 times)

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Thread for coverage of F9-0024-S1 - which is going to be a "ground test" booster for reuse (not expected to fly again).

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2016/07/spacex-returned-falcon-9-booster-mcgregor/

Main "return" thread (post mission):
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=40257.0

News Articles:

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/?s=JCSAT-14

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Stephen C Smith on twitter posted this tweet today: https://twitter.com/SpaceKSCBlog/status/742062804761448449

EDIT: I was mistaken and this is one of the dirty cores, not F9-021 Source Still it raises the question. Where are they moving the core? Most likely going to McGregor to static fire right?
Thanks Graham for the correction. Confusador pointed out it is most likey F9-024 (JCSat) but unsure.
« Last Edit: 08/31/2016 03:42 PM by Chris Bergin »

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New legs? It is going to be a statue on the corner of an intersection on their parking lot, why wouldn't they just ship a batch of used legs with it back to Hawthorne and attach those?

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 (F9-0024-S1) Reuse Testing Coverage
« Reply #2 on: 06/13/2016 10:02 AM »
I doubt they would be allowed to display it supported only by the legs for safety reasons. I guess it will be mounted on a base of some sort, possibly attached by the hold downs. It that's true, there's no problem displaying it with the original legs fitted.

EDIT: removed an "only."
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 (F9-0024-S1) Reuse Testing Coverage
« Reply #3 on: 06/13/2016 11:20 AM »
Stephen Smith also tweeted that it was not the cleaned up core, which we know to be OG2. This means it is likely a core on its way to McGregor for testing.

https://twitter.com/spacekscblog/status/742067468408094722
« Last Edit: 06/14/2016 01:53 PM by Chris Bergin »
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 (F9-0024-S1) Reuse Testing Coverage
« Reply #4 on: 06/13/2016 12:07 PM »

Stephen Smith also tweeted that it was not the cleaned up core, which we know to be OG2. This means it is likely a core on its way to McGregor for testing.

https://twitter.com/spacekscblog/status/742067468408094722

Which  means it's probably  F9-0024 (JCSAT-14).

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 (F9-0024-S1) Reuse Testing Coverage
« Reply #5 on: 06/13/2016 11:34 PM »
SpaceX transported a core early this morning. I passed a Falcon 9 first stage convoy moving west across the Indian River on the 528 causeway at 5:40 am. It was too dark to see very much detail bit it did appear to have all its engines, though I won't swear to it.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 (F9-0024-S1) Reuse Testing Coverage
« Reply #6 on: 06/14/2016 01:37 PM »
I saw a wrapped up Falcon 9 heading west near Pensacola, Fl yesterday (13 June 2016). Any idea why the booster was going west? Is SpaceX shipping a landed booster to Texas for testing?

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 (F9-0024-S1) Reuse Testing Coverage
« Reply #7 on: 06/14/2016 01:45 PM »
There should be two heading west. OG-2 to Hawthorn and one to McGregor for testing. 
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So hopefully I've not ballsed this up, but merged a couple of threads and renamed it based on us thinking it's 24 (I think that's a good call).

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 (F9-0024-S1) Reuse Testing Coverage
« Reply #9 on: 06/14/2016 06:50 PM »
Rats, looks like they are taking I-10 if they are going through Pensacola, FL.  I'm currently traveling east on I-20 in Texas....  It would have been a cool sight.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 (F9-0024-S1) Reuse Testing Coverage
« Reply #10 on: 06/14/2016 07:24 PM »
I respectfully challenge that Core24 is on the move.  I believe it's Core25 (Thaicom).

Debating here:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=39167.msg1549241#msg1549241


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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 (F9-0024-S1) Reuse Testing Coverage
« Reply #13 on: 07/29/2016 03:04 AM »
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 (F9-0024-S1) Reuse Testing Coverage
« Reply #14 on: 07/29/2016 03:15 AM »
Gotta love how the camera shakes the entire time the engines are lit!  :)

They haven't even cleaned the black stuff off of it around the legs.. is there some reason for wanting soot on there during the tests??
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 (F9-0024-S1) Reuse Testing Coverage
« Reply #15 on: 07/29/2016 04:25 AM »
Gotta love how the camera shakes the entire time the engines are lit!  :)

They haven't even cleaned the black stuff off of it around the legs.. is there some reason for wanting soot on there during the tests??

Hadn't noticed the shaking till you mentioned it! Maybe the soot makes it easier to ID this stage as the one for testing only.

Is all the black in that smoke nominal? I know it's supposed to be fuel rich, but you don't see that up in the air. I'd be surprised if atmospheric oxygen could do much to change it. Maybe some of it was from burning old soot inside the flame trench, and/or new soot from the extra long fire.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 (F9-0024-S1) Reuse Testing Coverage
« Reply #16 on: 07/29/2016 04:40 AM »
I think the smoke is probably just burning the flame trench.  They don't seem to be using nearly as much water as they would on a launch pad, so I would expect a large amount of ablation of anything stuck to the walls, and even somewhat of the walls themselves.  That is a lot of energy transfer there.

If this is the most beat up stage relegated to testing duty, it is almost a shame.  Think, that could have launched a satellite!

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 (F9-0024-S1) Reuse Testing Coverage
« Reply #17 on: 07/29/2016 06:10 AM »
So much for talk of a series of test firings gradually building up duration! (At least I assume news would have leaked if there had been multiple firings already?)

Of course we don't know the extent of any refurbishment yet but still an impressive achievement. Feels like booster re-use just took another large step forward :D

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 (F9-0024-S1) Reuse Testing Coverage
« Reply #18 on: 07/29/2016 07:47 AM »
Gotta love how the camera shakes the entire time the engines are lit!  :)

They haven't even cleaned the black stuff off of it around the legs.. is there some reason for wanting soot on there during the tests??

Hadn't noticed the shaking till you mentioned it! Maybe the soot makes it easier to ID this stage as the one for testing only.

Is all the black in that smoke nominal? I know it's supposed to be fuel rich, but you don't see that up in the air. I'd be surprised if atmospheric oxygen could do much to change it. Maybe some of it was from burning old soot inside the flame trench, and/or new soot from the extra long fire.
Black smoke is being caused by the fuel rich exhaust which is nominal being cooled by the water sprayed into the trench and preventing complete combustion of it in the air. During launch the remaining fuel in the plume burns in the ambient air so the plume is nearly smokeless as F9 rises into the air.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 (F9-0024-S1) Reuse Testing Coverage
« Reply #19 on: 07/29/2016 08:37 AM »
I think the little birdie singing by the camera probably needs hearing aids now.

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