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Re: The Space Between Us
« Reply #20 on: 12/21/2016 02:38 AM »
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January and February is where studios release movies that they think are going to do badly at the box office. So something prompted the studio to lose faith in this film.

February is the month that the Deadpool movie open in 2016 with final North america box office of $363M for a R-rated movie. So that point about box office dead zone might not be true anymore.

"Deadpool" was an outlier. Nobody expected it to do that well. And I've seen "The Space Between Us." It ain't "Deadpool."



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Re: The Space Between Us
« Reply #21 on: 12/23/2016 04:44 AM »
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January and February is where studios release movies that they think are going to do badly at the box office. So something prompted the studio to lose faith in this film.

February is the month that the Deadpool movie open in 2016 with final North america box office of $363M for a R-rated movie. So that point about box office dead zone might not be true anymore.

"Deadpool" was an outlier. Nobody expected it to do that well. And I've seen "The Space Between Us." It ain't "Deadpool."

You are probably right about this movie's box office outlook. But February is no longer a dead zone for movies. Certain studios needs more schedule slots annually.

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Re: The Space Between Us
« Reply #22 on: 12/23/2016 12:03 PM »
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January and February is where studios release movies that they think are going to do badly at the box office. So something prompted the studio to lose faith in this film.

February is the month that the Deadpool movie open in 2016 with final North america box office of $363M for a R-rated movie. So that point about box office dead zone might not be true anymore.

"Deadpool" was an outlier. Nobody expected it to do that well. And I've seen "The Space Between Us." It ain't "Deadpool."

You are probably right about this movie's box office outlook. But February is no longer a dead zone for movies. Certain studios needs more schedule slots annually.


I'd say that it's no longer a complete dead zone. But look at the quality of films being released in January and February. In fact, you can actually see a progression--the dullest and least popular movies tend to get released in January. This often includes action movies that may have once had promise, but that the studios lose hope on once they see early footage (the Vin Diesel movie that is coming up is an example). February is a little better, March is a little better, and then there's an improvement by April and May, with Memorial Day being the defining point.

There is an exception to this, which is artsy type films that the studios think will do well at the Oscars and will benefit from them. So they release those films before the Oscars (March?) and hope that the Oscar buzz gives them a second life in theaters after they win something.

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Re: The Space Between Us
« Reply #23 on: 01/27/2017 02:47 PM »
Movie now premiers February 3. I have seen some TV commercials for it again. (My local theater had a sign saying it was premiering March 3, but I think they made a mistake.) January and February are the months where Hollywood pushes movies that it has low expectations for.

Original release date was the second half of August, then moved to December 16 (opposite Rogue One, which seemed like a bad idea), then slipped to Feb 3. I'd love to know why they moved it out of December. Did they do an additional test screening and the audience did not like it? Or did a new studio executive watch it and realize that it was not going to do well, and they shifted it?

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Re: The Space Between Us
« Reply #24 on: 02/04/2017 12:03 AM »
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Re: The Space Between Us
« Reply #25 on: 02/04/2017 12:12 AM »
poor review from the Los Angeles Times:

https://www.pressreader.com/usa/los-angeles-times/20170203/282359744443378
Probably a good teen "date movie" for Valentines Day...
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Re: The Space Between Us
« Reply #26 on: 02/04/2017 12:24 AM »
http://io9.gizmodo.com/the-space-between-us-is-as-empty-as-its-title-suggests-1791884556

The Space Between Us Is as Empty as Its Title Suggests
Germain Lussier


The Space Between Us never goes beyond exactly what it’s supposed to be. It’s so straightforward that if you’ve heard the plot—boy on Mars falls in love with girl on Earth, then comes to Earth to find her—you can probably guess everything about the story, the conflict, and all of the things it’s going to try to make you feel, with the end result being you’re not going to feel much at all.

Here’s an extended summary of the movie (written by Allan Loeb and directed by Peter Chelsom) so you can see how your guess stacks up: A few years into the future a genius (Gary Oldman) has figured out how to send the first U.S. citizens to colonize Mars. On the way there, the team learns that the lead astronaut is pregnant and her son, Gardner, will be the first human not born on Earth. Gardner is kept secret from the world until, 16 years later, he (now played by Asa Butterfield) has to leave Mars. Once on Earth, he escapes his handlers to go after the one person he knows, a girl named Tulsa (Britt Robertson), who he met online and lied to about his, you know, living on another planet. So you’ve got some science, you’ve got some melodrama, you’ve got teenage angst, and a love story.

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Re: The Space Between Us
« Reply #27 on: 02/04/2017 05:47 AM »
As with passengers the critics don't like it but the ordinary viewers seem to be finding it OK.  Since I really liked Passengers I think I will take a look at this one.
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Re: The Space Between Us
« Reply #28 on: 02/05/2017 06:15 AM »
I've been searching around for a razor blade since the previews for this started at the movies. Thankfully I'll probably not be forced to watch it, despite being an horrible chick flick, because there's spaceships in it.

Jeff Bezos has billions to spend on rockets and can go at whatever pace he likes! Wow! What pace is he going at? Well... have you heard of Zeno's paradox?

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Re: The Space Between Us
« Reply #29 on: 02/13/2017 08:10 PM »
After two weeks, the domestic box office is $6.6 million. That's on a $30 million budget, and probably another $30 million of advertising. That's a substantial loss.

As I've written before, I don't think this is an awful movie. But I'd like to see more movies that involve Mars and space travel, and flops like this don't help make that happen.

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Re: The Space Between Us
« Reply #30 on: 02/14/2017 04:01 AM »
My girlfriend, her son and I went to the movies Saturday.  Her son and I saw Lego Batman, which was awesome.  She saw this and she just said it was OK. 

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Re: The Space Between Us
« Reply #31 on: 03/21/2017 02:36 AM »
http://thespacereview.com/article/3197/1


The fault in our Mars: popular entertainment and the settlement of Mars (part 4)

by Dwayne Day
Monday, March 20, 2017

Mars seems to have left the zeitgeist a bit. For several years it was gaining more and more attention in the media, culture, and popular entertainment. There was Mars One, Elon Musk’s Mars proselytizing, the hit movie The Martian, and National Geographic Channel’s six-part Mars miniseries. That cultural heat has cooled in the past few months. SpaceX has, unsurprisingly, delayed the launch of its Red Dragon mission, and Elon Musk has most recently suggested that he could use one of his company’s vehicles to send a couple of wealthy adventurers out past the Moon. Then again, later this month the movie Life features a deadly Mars organism that starts killing astronauts and threatens humanity, so perhaps this isn’t a lull at all and things are looking up?

The Space Between Us sought to capitalize on the Mars hype. The film was originally scheduled for an August 2016 release, then slipped to December apparently because it had done well in front of test audiences. It was even shown to an exclusive (but quite small) audience in Washington, DC, in November only a few weeks before its scheduled premiere. But then—as if the studio heads sensed that Mars was losing its luster, or simply did not want to go head-to-head against Rogue One—the premiere date was delayed. The Space Between Us finally debuted on February 3 to mostly middling reviews. It only made $7.9 million at the box office, coming in behind such films as Rock Dog and A Cure for Wellness. The film had a reported $30 million budget. Figure that advertising cost at least that amount, and clearly The Space Between Us is a financial failure for the studio. Now that it is out of the theaters it will show up on streaming services soon. If you are planning to watch the movie and do not want it spoiled, stop reading now.

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Re: The Space Between Us
« Reply #32 on: 06/20/2017 11:58 PM »
I just discovered that both the alternate ending and some deleted scenes from the movie are on YouTube:

Alternate ending:


Deleted scenes:


They are all not good. The alternate ending is actually rather bad and I can see why they did not use it. The deleted scenes add nothing. What is not included in the deleted scenes are any scenes between the head of the project--Shepherd--and Gardner's mother. I'll spoil it and say that the big reveal in the final act is that Shepherd is actually Gardner's father. But that creates a really creepy dynamic, because it means that the head of the program, a 58-year-old billionaire, was having a relationship with his 31-year-old chief astronaut, who he picked for the mission. In the film we learn that they were actually married. Now you'd expect that maybe at some point the director filmed some scenes between the two in order to try and explain their relationship, although that would destroy the big reveal. But there's nothing like that on the deleted clips.

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Re: The Space Between Us
« Reply #33 on: 06/21/2017 03:45 AM »
Not a bad movie. I watched it the other day the reviews show a pretty bad movie but it's not that bad at all. but then again I'm a little partial to some of the actors in the movie.

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Re: The Space Between Us
« Reply #34 on: 06/21/2017 03:27 PM »
Not a bad movie. I watched it the other day the reviews show a pretty bad movie but it's not that bad at all. but then again I'm a little partial to some of the actors in the movie.

I think that Gary Oldman and Carla Gugino are excellent actors, but clearly not into their roles. There's a deleted scene where their characters argue and you can see why it was cut, although it could have been an important scene. Oldman's character yells at her for letting the kid get away, saying that she was supposed to protect him. She yells right back, saying that she signed up to be an astronaut, not a surrogate mom for some kid she did not even know about on Mars. That's an insightful scene, but it just fell flat, so it got cut.

Britt Robertson is an odd case--she's been in a bunch of movies that probably should have succeeded but flopped, not because of her. She's a decent actress who has been given so-so material to work with and done well. But the movies have failed. Sort of a string of bad luck.

As I wrote in my articles (linked above), if they had chopped the Mars stuff off of this movie and just made it about the two kids traveling across the country in search of his mother, and falling in love, that would have worked much better.
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Re: The Space Between Us
« Reply #35 on: 09/25/2017 10:27 AM »
Not a bad movie. I watched it the other day the reviews show a pretty bad movie but it's not that bad at all. but then again I'm a little partial to some of the actors in the movie.
I quite liked it. It was basically positive and uplifting re space, despite the premise. I watch anything that is remotely like hardSF or has hardSF elements but pretty much all of them use space as a metaphor for our cold bleak future, or as a set up for horror movie monsters.

My major complaint was that there were a few glaring science flaws, including a major one right at the climax. Frustrating because I think they could have been fixed or avoided with a 20min conversation to someone on this site. They had some nice real space vehicles then used them wrong.

As to why it wasn't a success, IMO the biggest problem was: who was it aimed at? Teenage girls interested in space? Wasn't starwars, wasn't action, wasn't quite family. Twilight was a steaming pile of poo but it made money and this wasn't that either.

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Re: The Space Between Us
« Reply #36 on: 09/25/2017 11:13 AM »
Only saw the trailer and well, I am not even going to say something about the cheesy love story and even the storyline in general, I think I saw a doozy of a nitpick. Where are the snoopy caps? Girl astronaut especially, fully suited up walking in slo-mo to the rocket, her long hair flowing freely over the suit ring and her shoulders, just puts on the helmet and voilà? In terms of communication, also not a good option in a launching rocket, I presume.
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Re: The Space Between Us
« Reply #37 on: 09/25/2017 11:58 AM »
There is a certain point where good cinematography and technical accuracy diverge. I may be a heretic for saying this but I don't really let that divergence worry me intensely.
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Re: The Space Between Us
« Reply #38 on: 09/25/2017 01:34 PM »
There is a certain point where good cinematography and technical accuracy diverge. I may be a heretic for saying this but I don't really let that divergence worry me intensely.
Really? Really? One word on that: Armageddon. (-:
I think it's just silly to leave out things like snoopy caps. It's like how Fritz Lang decided no one had to wear a space suit on the moon in his film Der Frau in Mond (1929) because it would look much nicer. His scientific advisor, Hermann Oberth, who designed the rocket in the film, dissociated himself from this movie because of it.

I think the actual realism is in 'details' like the actors wearing snoopy caps. There probably are plenty more scenes in which the actress can freely flick her hair in any way she wants. 
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Re: The Space Between Us
« Reply #39 on: 09/25/2017 10:01 PM »
There is a certain point where good cinematography and technical accuracy diverge. I may be a heretic for saying this but I don't really let that divergence worry me intensely.
Really? Really? One word on that: Armageddon. (-:
I think it's just silly to leave out things like snoopy caps.
I can foresee a situation where a consultant insists that "snoopy caps" is written into the script.

The script is emailed to the art dept, in some entirely different part of the world, eg Weta Digital..

..and the consultant only gets to see how the art dept interpreted "snoopy caps" in the premiere :)

My larger problem was with the (mis)use of Dreamchaser and that early Dragon variation.. Mostly the dreamchaser being portrayed as almost a SSTO.

But still, I basically liked it.

(edit: and some of the uses of that dragon-variation were quite nice I thought.)
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