Are there termination penalties in the contract if NASA is directed to cancel those contracts abruptly?
Quote from: Lar on 11/16/2016 02:43 amNot really keen on discussing specific politics too closely but... Elon went on record with some not very complimentary things about Trump just prior to the election. That may cause some repercussions, which kind of squares with what QuantumG is saying.So isn't the question, what are SpaceX's major contracts with the US Govt?CRS-1, CRS-2 and CCtCap.Are there termination penalties in the contract if NASA is directed to cancel those contracts abruptly?
Not really keen on discussing specific politics too closely but... Elon went on record with some not very complimentary things about Trump just prior to the election. That may cause some repercussions, which kind of squares with what QuantumG is saying.
Quote from: Brovane on 11/17/2016 03:34 pmAre there termination penalties in the contract if NASA is directed to cancel those contracts abruptly? There are always termination clauses, although I don't think that the government accepts "penalties." They usually agree to pay some kind of contract closeout costs.But in this case, assuming that it happened, it would not happen in the way of contract termination. Contracts just would not be renewed, or options would not be exercised.
However it seems like there is a fairly limited ability for Trump to negatively impact current SpaceX contracts, regardless of what Elon has said about him.
And so are you. There is no evidence that Spacex is an Obama darling. Obama's visit to SLC-40 does not count. That was driven by the presence of LH2 tanks on SLC-41 and SLC-37.
Quote from: Jim on 11/17/2016 01:21 pmAnd so are you. There is no evidence that Spacex is an Obama darling. Obama's visit to SLC-40 does not count. That was driven by the presence of LH2 tanks on SLC-41 and SLC-37.Umm.. the evidence that SpaceX, and Elon in general, are considered an Obama darling by the folks who are about to be in the White House is on websites that I'd rather not link to on this forum. If you haven't seen it, you may be living in a bubble.
They are typical conspiracy theory hacks that think that anybody in "Green Energy" is a Obama darling. Forgetting that when jobs are involved the support for "Green Energy" cuts across party lines.
Quote from: Brovane on 11/17/2016 10:17 pmThey are typical conspiracy theory hacks that think that anybody in "Green Energy" is a Obama darling. Forgetting that when jobs are involved the support for "Green Energy" cuts across party lines.Not to put too much of a fine point on it, but who exactly do you think is going to be in the White House next year?Why is it that everyone seems happy to point out that NASA's earth observation program is likely to be gutted next year, but somehow Elon Musk is safe? How? It's paint-by-numbers obvious that he's in big trouble with this administration.
As said upstream, the normal flow is everyone at the top hands in the resignation by the time the President-Elect becomes President. They President can ask them to stay on, stay on until a new person in confirmed, or accept the resignation.The deputy steps in when the resignation is accepted.The NASA drama when President Obama's first term began was extraordinary. Michael Griffin had a semi-public shouting match with a member of President Obama's transition team. After that shouting match, Griffin's wife began a social media campaign to save Griffin's job as NASA Administrator. He stopped the campaign the same day saying he did not want the job.Then person after person was suggested as the new Administrator. The deputy ran the department until Bolden was confirmed nearly a year later.
Threatened Russia's revenue stream of RD-180s, commercial Proton/R7 launches, and ISS crew seats?
Quote from: Brovane on 11/18/2016 03:15 pmQuote from: Robotbeat on 11/18/2016 03:37 amThreatened Russia's revenue stream of RD-180s, commercial Proton/R7 launches, and ISS crew seats?Let's not overstate the relationship between Putin and Trump. Is that even possible?
Quote from: Robotbeat on 11/18/2016 03:37 amThreatened Russia's revenue stream of RD-180s, commercial Proton/R7 launches, and ISS crew seats?Let's not overstate the relationship between Putin and Trump.
Quote from: Rocket Science on 11/20/2016 02:44 pmQuote from: Brovane on 11/18/2016 03:15 pmQuote from: Robotbeat on 11/18/2016 03:37 amThreatened Russia's revenue stream of RD-180s, commercial Proton/R7 launches, and ISS crew seats?Let's not overstate the relationship between Putin and Trump. Is that even possible? When you start implying that Trump is; against US launch providers taking launch business away from the Russians, in favor of continued dependency on the RD-180 for DOD payloads and in favor of continued dependency on the Russians for astronaut transport to the ISS. You are venturing into the realm of wacky conspiracy theory conjecture. So yes, let's not overstate the relationship between Putin and Trump.
The matter of engines that you brought up didn't even cross my mind and is the least of my concerns about their bromance...