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Offline BrianNH

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Re: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 13)
« Reply #940 on: 08/19/2016 04:47 PM »
new parachute test

https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2016/08/19/spacex-conducts-successful-crew-dragon-parachute-system-test/

Dragon is hard to make out in the pictures.  Is the trunk still attached???

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Re: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 13)
« Reply #941 on: 08/19/2016 05:17 PM »
new parachute test

https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2016/08/19/spacex-conducts-successful-crew-dragon-parachute-system-test/

Dragon is hard to make out in the pictures.  Is the trunk still attached???

It looks like an oddly shaped Dragon mass simulator - Presumably to make it fit inside the cargo plane?
« Last Edit: 08/19/2016 05:18 PM by Lars-J »

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Re: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 13)
« Reply #942 on: 08/19/2016 05:25 PM »
new parachute test

https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2016/08/19/spacex-conducts-successful-crew-dragon-parachute-system-test/

Dragon is hard to make out in the pictures.  Is the trunk still attached???

It looks like an oddly shaped Dragon mass simulator - Presumably to make it fit inside the cargo plane?

Zoom in and it's definitely a mass simulator.

Edit: The NASA blog calls it a "Crew Dragon test article."
« Last Edit: 08/19/2016 05:33 PM by RonM »

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Re: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 13)
« Reply #943 on: 08/19/2016 06:34 PM »
That seems like an unfortunate location for the mass simulator to end up in, heading straight for a large hill / small 'mountain'!

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Re: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 13)
« Reply #944 on: 08/19/2016 07:19 PM »
That seems like an unfortunate location for the mass simulator to end up in, heading straight for a large hill / small 'mountain'!

Clear desert air + telephoto lens.
Hills are probably miles away.
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Re: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 13)
« Reply #945 on: 08/20/2016 05:20 AM »


Someone captured it from the NASA TV stream.  It will probably get posted with sound and explanation and maybe fuller views later.
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Re: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 13)
« Reply #946 on: 08/20/2016 08:24 PM »
Why with trunk attached? What situation are they simulating? Even ground abort had trunk detached

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Re: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 13)
« Reply #947 on: 08/20/2016 08:28 PM »
It's a mass simulator which mimics the upper end and parachute bay of a Dragon 2. I'd assume the flat side is a deployment sled.
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Re: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 13)
« Reply #948 on: 08/21/2016 01:55 AM »
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Re: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 13)
« Reply #949 on: 08/26/2016 10:04 PM »
I was wondering:

Will there be a future Dragon mission that will intentionally splash down using only two main chutes? I ask that because, like Blue Origin's New Shepard capsule, Dragon can safely land with a minimum of two chutes. The third one is for redundancy.

If that type of chute test will be conducted in the near future, I'm guessing that SpX-10 would do such a thing.
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Re: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 13)
« Reply #950 on: 08/26/2016 10:15 PM »
I was wondering:

Will there be a future Dragon mission that will intentionally splash down using only two main chutes? I ask that because, like Blue Origin's New Shepard capsule, Dragon can safely land with a minimum of two chutes. The third one is for redundancy.

If that type of chute test will be conducted in the near future, I'm guessing that SpX-10 would do such a thing.

That is not something you would do on an operational mission.  It would subject the payload to unnecessarily high forces on landing.

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Re: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 13)
« Reply #951 on: 08/26/2016 10:15 PM »
I was wondering:

Will there be a future Dragon mission that will intentionally splash down using only two main chutes? I ask that because, like Blue Origin's New Shepard capsule, Dragon can safely land with a minimum of two chutes. The third one is for redundancy.

If that type of chute test will be conducted in the near future, I'm guessing that SpX-10 would do such a thing.

Crew dragon will nominally use four chutes, so one chute out would probably be pretty similar to the current Dragon with three. The four chute test was just recently discussed here.

new parachute test

https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2016/08/19/spacex-conducts-successful-crew-dragon-parachute-system-test/

Dragon is hard to make out in the pictures.  Is the trunk still attached???

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Re: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 13)
« Reply #952 on: 08/26/2016 10:19 PM »
I was wondering:

Will there be a future Dragon mission that will intentionally splash down using only two main chutes? I ask that because, like Blue Origin's New Shepard capsule, Dragon can safely land with a minimum of two chutes. The third one is for redundancy.

If that type of chute test will be conducted in the near future, I'm guessing that SpX-10 would do such a thing.

Crew dragon will nominally use four chutes, so one chute out would probably be pretty similar to the current Dragon with three. The four chute test was just recently discussed here.

new parachute test

https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2016/08/19/spacex-conducts-successful-crew-dragon-parachute-system-test/

Dragon is hard to make out in the pictures.  Is the trunk still attached???
Bet you could do it with just one chute, though probably with broken teeth and bruises. People are pretty tough.

Wouldn't recommend it.
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Re: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 13)
« Reply #953 on: 08/27/2016 02:08 AM »
I was wondering:

Will there be a future Dragon mission that will intentionally splash down using only two main chutes? I ask that because, like Blue Origin's New Shepard capsule, Dragon can safely land with a minimum of two chutes. The third one is for redundancy.

If that type of chute test will be conducted in the near future, I'm guessing that SpX-10 would do such a thing.

Crew dragon will nominally use four chutes, so one chute out would probably be pretty similar to the current Dragon with three. The four chute test was just recently discussed here.

new parachute test

https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2016/08/19/spacex-conducts-successful-crew-dragon-parachute-system-test/

Dragon is hard to make out in the pictures.  Is the trunk still attached???

Sorry, but I was referring to the unmanned cargo Dragon when I asked about the two-chute only splashdown.
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Re: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 13)
« Reply #954 on: 08/27/2016 02:24 AM »
I was wondering:

Will there be a future Dragon mission that will intentionally splash down using only two main chutes? I ask that because, like Blue Origin's New Shepard capsule, Dragon can safely land with a minimum of two chutes. The third one is for redundancy.

If that type of chute test will be conducted in the near future, I'm guessing that SpX-10 would do such a thing.

Crew dragon will nominally use four chutes, so one chute out would probably be pretty similar to the current Dragon with three. The four chute test was just recently discussed here.


Sorry, but I was referring to the unmanned cargo Dragon when I asked about the two-chute only splashdown.

If they felt a two chute test was important for cargo Dragon, then I'm sure they would have (or did) accomplish it before flying nine operational missions and that no such test is forthcoming.


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