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ASDS support ship activities thread
« on: 07/24/2015 09:46 PM »
The ASDS thread is getting a bit cluttered (including by me) due to discussions of the ASDS support ships unrelated to ASDS, so I thought I'd try starting a new thread.

Examples would be Go Quest, NRC Quest, Rhea, and Elsbeth III, when they are conducting activities unrelated to ASDS (such as the search for CRX-7).   

The two Quests have been seen conducting what appear to be sonar search patterns off Florida and California. In the case of Go Quest off Florida, this seems to be part of the search for CRX-7 debris (whether from Dragon or the LV).

But what is the activity off California? Wild speculation: a test to fine tune sonar methods for locating small metallic bottom targets (such as struts from CRX-7) to aid in that search.
 
« Last Edit: 07/24/2015 10:16 PM by CJ »

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #1 on: 07/24/2015 10:25 PM »
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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #3 on: 07/24/2015 10:35 PM »
a test to fine tune sonar methods for locating small metallic bottom targets (such as struts from CRX-7) to aid in that search.
 

No way they will find a 24" x 1" piece of metal in 800+meter ocean especially that patch which has had spent stages dropped on it for decades among other things.

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #4 on: 08/02/2015 09:04 PM »
a test to fine tune sonar methods for locating small metallic bottom targets (such as struts from CRX-7) to aid in that search.
 

No way they will find a 24" x 1" piece of metal in 800+meter ocean especially that patch which has had spent stages dropped on it for decades among other things.

Theoretically, they could find such a small object. Theoretically. Towed sidescan multispectral sonar has great resolution, enough to tell the difference between a man's bike and a woman's. However, what would a strut look like on that? a small straight line, just like a stanchion that's fallen off a boat, or all sorts of other things (including launch debris from other launches).

I'm wondering if the strut search might be easier than we assume; could part of it still be attached to something, such as the COPV or the LOX tank wall?

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #5 on: 08/22/2015 11:59 PM »
You don’t start looking for a 24” x 1” piece of metal.  The 1st thing you have to do is look for the haystack you going to be searching in.  You do that by mapping a large area looking for large and small items.  Next you’ll start looking at the larger items to identify which of those might belong to the SpaceX S2.  The parts they will be looking for of most interest is the lower part of the LOX tank.  More precisely the part they want to find is the rings where the COPV were mounted.  If they can find this relatively large part they can then send down a ROV to video and try to find the lower half of the broken strut.  Just finding and videoing this broken strut would provide SpaceX with the definitive cause of the stage failure.

Doing the above is still very difficult.  On the other hand you might get lucky.  Not until you’ve expended a minimum of effort will you be able to determine how close you are to the very difficult as opposed to how close you might be to getting lucky.  This is why SpaceX is expending at least a minimum of effort investigating the possibility.  If after doing the preliminary mapping SpaceX determines that the haystack is either too big or has too many other unrelated needles they then will then give up.  On the other hand if they find some good possible candidates they will then investigate those.  Either way it will probably continue to investigate until the weather starts to turn bad for this year.

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #6 on: 02/10/2016 04:14 PM »
Taken in Port Canaveral Feb. 5. The ASDS was moored across the channel, hidden behind the two.

Edit: the corner of the ASDS is just visible at far right.
« Last Edit: 02/10/2016 04:15 PM by Kim Keller »

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #7 on: 02/10/2016 04:43 PM »
Thanks, Kim.

What do we think the purpose of the second GO ship is? Payload fairing search & recovery?
« Last Edit: 02/10/2016 04:45 PM by Kabloona »

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #8 on: 02/10/2016 06:52 PM »
Looks like the SpaceX recovery folks are "Go" for a landing.

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #9 on: 02/10/2016 07:07 PM »
I can't think of any good reason to pay for two east coast support ships at this time. Maybe the lease is up on Go Quest and the owner needs to swap it out for some reason rather than just extending the lease (maintenance, etc.). Go Searcher may be tied up alongside to transfer the containers and equipment over so Go Quest can go home.

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #10 on: 02/11/2016 04:56 AM »
perhaps they wanted backup since theyre going further out from the mainland?

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #11 on: 02/15/2016 09:44 PM »
Support Ship Go Quest now berthed next to OCISLY at Port Canaveral while American Champion heads out to CRS-7 Dragon splash-down area to continue mapping of fragments. Any idea why Go Quest has moved?

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #12 on: 02/15/2016 10:57 PM »
And Elsbeth III is berthed up against GO Searcher by Fishlips Grill.

Update: American Champion has joined the EIII and GS at Fishlips.
« Last Edit: 02/16/2016 01:32 AM by Kabloona »

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #13 on: 02/15/2016 10:59 PM »
American Champion heads out to CRS-7 Dragon splash-down area to continue mapping of fragments.

Thanks for this update. Where did you get the info about CRS-7 mapping?
« Last Edit: 02/16/2016 01:33 AM by Kabloona »

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #14 on: 02/16/2016 02:55 AM »
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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #15 on: 02/16/2016 03:35 AM »
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CJ mentioned that the two Quests appeared to be doing search patterns. He didn't mention American Champion.

So are you seeing American Champion doing search patterns in the CRS-7 debris area? Just trying to understand what observations you're drawing conclusions from. American Champion was back in port a little more than an hour after your post saying she was heading out, which seems rather a short time to get to/from the debris area.
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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #16 on: 02/16/2016 06:02 PM »
here is American Champion's latest tracks from MarineTraffic.com. Seems to going to the same area that the Go Quest/Go Searcher were searching.

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #17 on: 02/16/2016 07:29 PM »
I don't know what they're doing, but that's far too close to shore for a CRS-7 debris search.

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #18 on: 02/17/2016 01:31 AM »
That course track for American Champion definitely excludes CRX-7 debris search (as mentioned above, way too close in).

Anyone have any idea on the speed during that sortie? I'm wondering if it could have been a tow test of the ASDS.

Edit: alternate theory: an engine test of the tug. It's what I'd expect to see if they'd done any sort of routine engine work, or for that matter, done any work at all that could impact seaworthiness.

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #19 on: 02/17/2016 01:45 AM »
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Anyone have any idea on the speed during that sortie? I'm wondering if it could have been a tow test of the ASDS.

It was up to 7.8 knots, which is her listed max speed, so I doubt she was towing the ASDS.
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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #20 on: 02/17/2016 03:52 PM »
American Champion heads out to CRS-7 Dragon splash-down area to continue mapping of fragments.

Thanks for this update. Where did you get the info about CRS-7 mapping?

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Wolfram - Your thoughts that there is currently a search for CRS-7 Dragon are off base, clouded by the fact that you are referring to information from August, 6 months ago upthread.  There was a search then, not now.  This thread was started then and more or less abandoned until recently, and its disorienting until you notice the chronological gap in posts.

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #21 on: 02/18/2016 12:57 PM »
American Champion again this morning doing that racetrack pattern offshore of Cocoa Beach.

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #22 on: 02/18/2016 01:21 PM »
My money is on an engine or equipment issue with American Champion that they are having trouble keeping fixed.  Hence the repeated sea trials.  Not necessarily related to SpaceX at all.

I believe some folks here have access to the marine radio for the area; I bet some listening in would reveal the issue.

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #23 on: 02/18/2016 02:37 PM »
Did that champ just did a switcharoo?

http://www.snapto.twopalms.com/

Anyway not our barge.
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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #24 on: 02/18/2016 03:01 PM »
Yes, very strange, that is American Champion towing two different barges in that racetrack pattern.
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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #25 on: 02/18/2016 10:52 PM »
The same barge, I think. Either transferred a load to another vessel or dumped dredge material into a spoils area. The returning photo shows lighter load and nothing projecting above the gunwales.

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #26 on: 02/18/2016 11:04 PM »

The same barge, I think. Either transferred a load to another vessel or dumped dredge material into a spoils area. The returning photo shows lighter load and nothing projecting above the gunwales.
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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #27 on: 02/19/2016 12:20 AM »
The same barge, I think. Either transferred a load to another vessel or dumped dredge material into a spoils area. The returning photo shows lighter load and nothing projecting above the gunwales.

Ah, dredging. There is a dredging project in the Port. So they must be dumping the dredged material off Cocoa Beach.

http://www.dutragroup.com/dredging-projects.html

I was wondering how they offloaded the dredged material, and the link above says they are using a "split hull dump scow," which I'd never heard of, but that explains how they do it. So the "barge" we see in the photo above is probably a split hull dump scow.
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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #28 on: 02/19/2016 02:55 AM »
Good call peeps! Thanks for making my observations make sense. Look at me, dredging up old posts to comment on... #Snarkasm 😜🤓😁🤔

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #29 on: 02/20/2016 03:47 AM »
Elsbeth III heading out to sea at ~3 Kts just south of due east. Towing OCISLY ?

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #30 on: 02/20/2016 04:22 AM »
Elsbeth III w/ OCISLY heading to landing zone for SES9 . ~3.2 Kts.

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #31 on: 02/20/2016 10:45 AM »
GO Quest and GO Searcher still in port early Saturday morning. GQ typically leaves later than the ASDS because it's faster and can make up the time difference.

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #32 on: 02/20/2016 01:23 PM »
Go Quest is heading out. Course 100.1 degrees; speed 8.4 kn.

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #33 on: 02/20/2016 04:33 PM »
GO Searcher hasnt moved

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #34 on: 02/22/2016 01:10 AM »
go searcher has left the building

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #35 on: 02/22/2016 02:43 PM »
Did Go Searcher have any additional equipment, Jacks or stands on her deck when she exited Port Canaveral? :-\

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #36 on: 02/22/2016 07:31 PM »
I too suspect Go Searcher is headed to join the armada. But rather than bringing additional equipment I wonder if her mission might be to relieve Go Quest if there is an extended launch delay?
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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #37 on: 02/22/2016 07:59 PM »
I too suspect Go Searcher is headed to join the armada. But rather than bringing additional equipment I wonder if her mission might be to relieve Go Quest if there is an extended launch delay?

http://www.guiceoffshore.com/VesselInfo.aspx?name=170+ft+DP1+Supply+%E2%80%93+GO+QUEST
Certified to Carry:   20
Cabins / Berths:   6 / 20

http://www.guiceoffshore.com/VesselInfo.aspx?name=170+ft+DP1+Supply+%E2%80%93+GO+SEARCHER
Certified to Carry:   32
Cabins / Berths:   6 / 20

Hmm, guessing...  You've got people to set up and service the systems on the ASDS, people to set up and service the various electronic systems on the support ships, people to safe and secure the stage, video people, people that are looking at the high energy re-entry, and the sailors.  Perhaps they're throwing a lot of people at this to make it happen and one ship isn't enough.  And having two ships allows you to have a long stay crew (from initial ASDS set up through to ASDS departure) and a short stay crew (just observing and supporting the actual event).

And if it was me that had the job of being one of the first to set foot on the ASDS and walk up to the (kaboom prone) stage I'd feel better knowing that if I had to run off the deck to avoid getting burned that there were more ships to haul me out of the water.

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #38 on: 02/22/2016 08:19 PM »
Fairing recovery?
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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #39 on: 02/22/2016 08:50 PM »
Fairing recovery?

Possible, they may start initial tests, as interest was expressed in it before.

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #40 on: 02/22/2016 08:56 PM »
Fairing recovery?

Possible, they may start initial tests, as interest was expressed in it before.

That gets my vote, too. They may have a little surprise in store for us.
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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #41 on: 02/28/2016 04:30 PM »
Some pictures from back in port a few weeks ago.  Not mine, just stumbled upon.

http://imgur.com/gallery/zhvzx

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #42 on: 03/06/2016 09:24 PM »
So with the RCS visible from the fairings in launch video does it reinforce that GO Searcher is out supporting fairing recovery experiments?

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #43 on: 03/07/2016 03:11 AM »
That would be nice.  I've heard rumor of jets from the fairing halves in three places now but not seen it.  Can someone link the video?

edit: suggest we move any fairing discussion if it erupts into the fairing recovery thread that has been dormant for a while.  http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=37727.0

edit2: I've reposted these three posts there.
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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #44 on: 03/07/2016 03:15 AM »
That would be nice.  I've heard rumor of jets from the fairing halves in three places now but not seen it.  Can someone link the video?
This video has a good view of the jets: 
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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #45 on: 03/07/2016 06:17 AM »
That would be nice.  I've heard rumor of jets from the fairing halves in three places now but not seen it.  Can someone link the video?
This video has a good view of the jets: 

Nice view of 1st stage RCS firings.

Still wondering, if chutes were packed, into the fairing halves & if so, did they come down intact?

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #46 on: 04/01/2016 06:28 PM »
So what is up with American Champion?  Refer back to page 1 of this thread.  There was a little confusion about it maybe having been involved in a search for CRS-7s Dragon but that was due to a misunderstanding of the last post being old.  Then we had some images showing it was making round trips to take dredged material from the port out to sea.  But it doesn't seem to be doing that now, its parked next to Go Searcher.  Here is the kicker for me, and maybe some of you guys knew this before when American Champion was being discussed or maybe not but it just dawned on me - American Champion was used by SpaceX in recovering some of the Dragons from the Pacific.  Yea, that Pacific way over there.  So now it in Port Canaveral and sitting next to a ship working for SpaceX.  What are the odds?  Why?  Or is this another American Champion?

Also, EIII, GS, AChamp all seem to be on the Fishlips side of the harbor and GQ looks to be on the ASDS side.

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #47 on: 04/01/2016 08:51 PM »
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Also, EIII, GS, AChamp all seem to be on the Fishlips side of the harbor and GQ looks to be on the ASDS side.

Are you sure about EIII? My MarineTraffic app shows EIII *was* there 7 days ago but is now out of range.

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #48 on: 04/02/2016 01:02 AM »
So what is up with American Champion?  Refer back to page 1 of this thread.  There was a little confusion about it maybe having been involved in a search for CRS-7s Dragon but that was due to a misunderstanding of the last post being old.  Then we had some images showing it was making round trips to take dredged material from the port out to sea.  But it doesn't seem to be doing that now, its parked next to Go Searcher.  Here is the kicker for me, and maybe some of you guys knew this before when American Champion was being discussed or maybe not but it just dawned on me - American Champion was used by SpaceX in recovering some of the Dragons from the Pacific.  Yea, that Pacific way over there.  So now it in Port Canaveral and sitting next to a ship working for SpaceX.  What are the odds?  Why?  Or is this another American Champion?

Also, EIII, GS, AChamp all seem to be on the Fishlips side of the harbor and GQ looks to be on the ASDS side.

That was American Islander.
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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #49 on: 04/02/2016 04:56 AM »
Are you sure about EIII? My MarineTraffic app shows EIII *was* there 7 days ago but is now out of range.
What I'm seeing on MarineTraffic is that it came in from the SE on 3/24 and tied up on the Fishlip side (not necessarily near Fishlips, I just like calling it the Fishlip side for some reason) and bobed and weaved there until the 25th, didn't move and the transponder was turned off on the 25th.  It would have (should have) been turned back on if they had moved.  I do see the words out of range but that's just what is says when there is no signal.


That was American Islander.
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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #50 on: 04/30/2016 07:18 AM »
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=39766.msg1526039#msg1526039
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=39766.msg1526042#msg1526042

Thanks for those images Jim. I think there are two winches on Go Searcher. One under the hanging boat and other on deck port side. What do people think about fairing recovery procedure?
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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #51 on: 04/30/2016 09:42 AM »
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=39766.msg1526039#msg1526039
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=39766.msg1526042#msg1526042

Thanks for those images Jim. I think there are two winches on Go Searcher. One under the hanging boat and other on deck port side. What do people think about fairing recovery procedure?

I'm wondering why they don't have a crane on the stern to lift the fairing over the edge of the transom.

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #52 on: 04/30/2016 07:37 PM »
perhaps theyd just tow the fairing as it floats behind Searcher. The only specialized equipment we see is the air compressor. Saw them welding near the water at the back, is the half pipe new?

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #53 on: 05/01/2016 01:45 AM »
Perhaps they are primarily doing telemetry capture and photography, since the fairings are over the horizon from Canaveral.  Once/if the fairings actually make it to the surface nearer-to-intact perhaps they'll worry about actual recovery?

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #55 on: 07/06/2016 02:02 PM »
Does anyone know why Go Quest would be in Jacksonville? I got an email alert at 8:36AM EDT when they must have entered the mouth of the St Johns River, because they were about halfway between there and Blount Island traveling at 6.6 knots a couple of minutes ago, and even more interesting, they now appear to be either stopping or turning north into a branch called Clapboard Creek.
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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #56 on: 07/06/2016 06:09 PM »
There is a large BAE Systems building near where they are docked. Maybe they are upgrading their tracking and controll systems.
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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #57 on: 07/08/2016 01:57 AM »
Go Quest has moved.
Looks like it is in a dry dock.
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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #58 on: 07/13/2016 10:54 PM »
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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #59 on: 01/15/2017 11:35 PM »
It's worth noting that NRC Quest's current northbound speed of 5.5 knots toward Long Beach is a bit incongruous if indeed it is towing JRTI. That speed is speed over ground, NOT speed through the water. And in that location, they are taking the California Current head on.

Edit: It's not towing JRTI, it's not a tow ship (I was wrong), but the same speed issue applies of it's steaming in formation with the ASDS.

On the other hand, looks like the California current is about 1/3 of a knot there, so my whole premise may be off.
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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #60 on: 01/16/2017 02:59 AM »
I'm not wild about posting ASDS recovery info in this thread when everyone has been posting in the ASDS thread.  Maybe reserve this thread for activity involving ONLY the support ships?
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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #61 on: 01/16/2017 09:57 AM »
Just a quick observation: American Islander is currently outbound from San Diego, headed directly towards the current position of NRC Quest. Possibly a total coincidence.
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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #62 on: 01/16/2017 10:02 AM »
N.B. regarding the destination shown: there are no berths (nor any sort of marina or harbor) at El Segundo, CA. It is however directly between Hawthorne and the ocean!
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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #63 on: 01/16/2017 06:14 PM »
N.B. regarding the destination shown: there are no berths (nor any sort of marina or harbor) at El Segundo, CA. It is however directly between Hawthorne and the ocean!

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Terminal Location and Description: The Chevron U.S.A. Products Company’s El
Segundo Marine Terminal
facility is located in an open, unsheltered roadstead in the
Santa Monica Bay on the West Coast of the United States at El Segundo, California. The
Terminal maintains a Sea Buoy, “2ES,” a lighted bell buoy exhibiting a red flashing light
every 4 seconds. The Terminal has two, 7-point conventional buoy moorings systems
(CBMs). Berth No. 3 is approximately 7,200ft offshore and Berth No. 4 is approximately
8,100ft offshore.

http://www.mxsocal.org/assets/35-lalb-hsp-appendix-f_new-version_2015.pdf

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #64 on: 01/16/2017 08:02 PM »
N.B. regarding the destination shown: there are no berths (nor any sort of marina or harbor) at El Segundo, CA. It is however directly between Hawthorne and the ocean!

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Terminal Location and Description: The Chevron U.S.A. Products Company’s El
Segundo Marine Terminal
facility is located in an open, unsheltered roadstead in the
Santa Monica Bay on the West Coast of the United States at El Segundo, California. The
Terminal maintains a Sea Buoy, “2ES,” a lighted bell buoy exhibiting a red flashing light
every 4 seconds. The Terminal has two, 7-point conventional buoy moorings systems
(CBMs). Berth No. 3 is approximately 7,200ft offshore and Berth No. 4 is approximately
8,100ft offshore.

http://www.mxsocal.org/assets/35-lalb-hsp-appendix-f_new-version_2015.pdf

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Berth No. 3 has two separate piping systems and associated submarine hoses; 3C (clean)
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pipeline are attached to 245ft of submarine hose, the last link of which is a 12in over-therail
hose. Berth 3B has a 26in pipeline, and a 12in circulation pipeline also attached to
240ft of submarine hose with a 12in over-the-rail hose.

In Berth 4, a 36in submarine pipeline and a 14in submarine circulation pipeline attach to
310ft of submarine hose, the last link of which is a 16in over-the-rail hose.
Yes, I thought that was obvious from the context. I was just clarifying that it is an actual destination and unrelated to SpaceX (unless they buy their RP-1 from that refinery).

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #65 on: 01/29/2017 10:05 PM »
Yes, I thought that was obvious from the context. I was just clarifying that it is an actual destination and unrelated to SpaceX (unless they buy their RP-1 from that refinery).

Just in case folks here weren't aware:  The AIS 'destination' data field is one of several that are (a) not mandatory and (b) are manually entered by the crew.  Some crews can't be bothered changing it each time they go out and others use it to display their sense of humour.  I wouldn't, personally, take too much notice of it.
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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #66 on: 03/07/2017 07:16 AM »
With this being the first expendable launch in awhile, and also the expectation of fairing recovery activities sooner or later, it will be interesting to see if Go Quest and Elsbeth III find occasion to head out. Both currently in port.

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #67 on: 03/07/2017 05:13 PM »
With this being the first expendable launch in awhile, and also the expectation of fairing recovery activities sooner or later, it will be interesting to see if Go Quest and Elsbeth III find occasion to head out. Both currently in port.

Also keep an eye on Go Searcher...  ;)
My Guess... The Go "twins" may both head out and Elsbeth III will stay put with OCISLY in port...
Assuming there is a fairing recovery planned this flight...  :P

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #68 on: 04/02/2017 03:31 PM »
As there is a rumor that one of the go twins may have caught something "big" does anybody have any info on the ships?

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #69 on: 04/03/2017 01:05 AM »
As there is a rumor that one of the go twins may have caught something "big" does anybody have any info on the ships?
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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #70 on: 04/03/2017 09:18 AM »
According to Marine Traffic web site. Go Searcher is approaching Port Canaveral at 6.3 knots, about 30 km out. Is there anyone near Port Canaveral now?

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #71 on: 04/03/2017 10:39 AM »
According to Marine Traffic web site. Go Searcher is approaching Port Canaveral at 6.3 knots, about 30 km out. Is there anyone near Port Canaveral now?

Go Searcher is less than a mile out now, doing a bit over 8 knots.

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #72 on: 04/03/2017 11:24 AM »
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The Go Searcher is back in port. #SpaceX is there a fairing or portion of under the tarps? Will be docked at SpaceX Barge Dock

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #73 on: 04/03/2017 11:26 AM »
Yup, that's a fairing!
(half)

Parafoil under second tarp?
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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #74 on: 04/03/2017 11:59 AM »
Definitely caught a big one!  8)

Lots more pics here:

https://imgur.com/gallery/qa2rB

(at work bit too busy to download and attach them here but I'm sure someone else can do that...)

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #75 on: 04/03/2017 12:04 PM »
Definitely caught a big one!  8)

Lots more pics here:

https://imgur.com/gallery/qa2rB

(at work bit too busy to download and attach them here but I'm sure someone else can do that...)

Great, thanks. Just picked a few that look like they show a bit of fairing. Lots more similar picks at the above link.

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #76 on: 04/03/2017 02:49 PM »
Yup, that's a fairing!
(half)

Parafoil under second tarp?

Looks like there's 3 tarp'd items. Big one is a Fairing half, the grey one id probably the parafoil, and the 3rd one to the left of the Fairing maybe parts of second fairing... maybe with SES Logo for boardroom?

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #77 on: 04/03/2017 02:59 PM »
Good god those fairings are huge.

I mean, I know they are large enough to hold a Greyhound, but seeing one on its side with a person standing next to it....

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #78 on: 04/28/2017 10:45 PM »
Looks like Go Quest is leaving the port: https://www.vesselfinder.com/?imo=1155515

Fairing recovery is a go?
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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #79 on: 04/30/2017 01:02 AM »
Looks like Go Quest is leaving the port: https://www.vesselfinder.com/?imo=1155515

Fairing recovery is a go?

I went by the port this evening.... Go Quest is moored at her normal berth by Fishlips... Go Searcher on the other hand was nowhere to be seen.

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #80 on: 04/30/2017 03:23 AM »
Looks like Go Quest is leaving the port: https://www.vesselfinder.com/?imo=1155515

Fairing recovery is a go?

I went by the port this evening.... Go Quest is moored at her normal berth by Fishlips... Go Searcher on the other hand was nowhere to be seen.

Last info from Go Searcher didn't place her near Fishlips. It was from 5:17pm Friday - suspiciously like knock-off time - over at the western end of the dock that OCISLY is moored to - a fair way from any other SpaceX vessel. Can you confirm that she is not tied up on the far side of the canal?
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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #81 on: 04/30/2017 03:49 AM »
I can confirm Searcher wasn't by OCISLY.

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #82 on: 05/01/2017 05:15 PM »
I can confirm Searcher wasn't by OCISLY.

Sounds like Searcher snuck out and caught a (flying) fish. From the NROL-76 update thread:

I have confirmation that one-half of the fairing was recovered via parachute. My message said it was recovered from the water, intact.
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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #83 on: 05/08/2017 01:50 PM »
Go Searcher never came back on AIS, but is now back in port.  Go Quest was in-and-out yesterday, presumably to make room for Go Searcher to dock alongside.  They're visible now on The Webcam Which Must Not Be Named.

As mentioned in the other thread, the SES-10 fairing is still at the port by the Spacehab building.  Perhaps the NROL fairing is as well?

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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #84 on: 06/13/2017 07:25 PM »
Go sisters and IMO Elsbeth III moving to new positions. AIS shows Go sisters now by OCISLY. Elsbeth III AIS still not up.
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Re: ASDS support ship activities thread
« Reply #86 on: 06/23/2017 04:42 PM »
Any word on West Coast departures for the Iridium launch?

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