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Re: Falcon 9 v1.1 ORBCOMM - First Stage Ocean Landing Video
« Reply #1 on: 07/22/2014 07:22 PM »
From the update on the SpaceX site:

"We will attempt our next water landing on flight 13 of Falcon 9, but with a low probability of success. Flights 14 and 15 will attempt to land on a solid surface with an improved probability of success."

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Re: Falcon 9 v1.1 ORBCOMM - First Stage Ocean Landing Video
« Reply #2 on: 07/22/2014 07:23 PM »
:)  Ours is still better!!!  (The video, I mean)  (and I'm not serious)
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Re: Falcon 9 v1.1 ORBCOMM - First Stage Ocean Landing Video
« Reply #3 on: 07/22/2014 07:26 PM »
From the update on the SpaceX site:

"We will attempt our next water landing on flight 13 of Falcon 9, but with a low probability of success. Flights 14 and 15 will attempt to land on a solid surface with an improved probability of success."

Flight 13 right now is CRS-4, if anyone was wondering.
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Re: Falcon 9 v1.1 ORBCOMM - First Stage Ocean Landing Video
« Reply #4 on: 07/22/2014 07:26 PM »
I find it absolutely hilarious that the recovered video that we fixed was in some ways better than this one!

So who wants to guess what "solid surface" means?

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Someone remind me which mission Flight 13 is with?

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Re: Falcon 9 v1.1 ORBCOMM - First Stage Ocean Landing Video
« Reply #6 on: 07/22/2014 07:30 PM »
Link to their article on it. Has some cool info, including a reference to possibly landing on a floating platform.

http://www.spacex.com/news/2014/07/22/spacex-soft-lands-falcon-9-rocket-first-stage

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Re: Falcon 9 v1.1 ORBCOMM - First Stage Ocean Landing Video
« Reply #7 on: 07/22/2014 07:31 PM »
Someone remind me which mission Flight 13 is with?

Orbcomm was flight 10, so if the manifest stays the way it is then flight 11 will be AsiaSat-8, flight 12 will be AsiaSat-6, and flight 13 will be CRS-4

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Re: Falcon 9 v1.1 ORBCOMM - First Stage Ocean Landing Video
« Reply #8 on: 07/22/2014 07:31 PM »
Presumably the ice formation on this flight, when there was none on CRS-3, was due to the high trajectory...

Interesting choice of words, land "on a solid surface".  That suggests it might not be on land, which further suggests it will be some sort of floating platform.  I agree with the general forum consensus that such an idea is likely not economical but perhaps as a step to proving they can stick the landing it is reasonable?

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Re: Falcon 9 v1.1 ORBCOMM - First Stage Ocean Landing Video
« Reply #9 on: 07/22/2014 07:31 PM »
A few notes:

1. The Kaboom that Elon mentioned does not happen until after the stage falls horizontal. I'm guessing that it's simply the tanks being ruptured by mechanical stresses, not an actual explosion. edit -- as stated in the SpaceX release I read after posting this.

2. Could the numerous blotches on the camera lens from the first splashdown video have been created by the same entry burn process as seen in this video, not by the "dirty splash" at launch?

3. The rocket plumes are oddly patterned in this video, with a series of parallel "interference patterns", no doubt due to the arrangement of the three firing engines.

4. From the SpaceX release: "Going forward, we are taking steps to minimize the build up of ice and spots on the camera housing in order to gather improved video on future launches." Perhaps a transparent cover over the camera lens that can be ejected, or flipped out of the way, after the entry burn is finished?
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Re: Falcon 9 v1.1 ORBCOMM - First Stage Ocean Landing Video
« Reply #10 on: 07/22/2014 07:34 PM »
OMG! OMG! OMG!  That was totally AWESOME!

Wait, when? 

Ok, then, let's send up the next few "expendable configuration" missions and get on with the business of doing a dirt tap dance!

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Re: Falcon 9 v1.1 ORBCOMM - First Stage Ocean Landing Video
« Reply #11 on: 07/22/2014 07:39 PM »
Great video (when the ice isn't in the way), cant wait until the fall for the attempted water landing on CRS-4 and the potential ground landing for OG2!

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Re: Falcon 9 v1.1 ORBCOMM - First Stage Ocean Landing Video
« Reply #12 on: 07/22/2014 07:39 PM »
From the update on the SpaceX site:

"We will attempt our next water landing on flight 13 of Falcon 9, but with a low probability of success. Flights 14 and 15 will attempt to land on a solid surface with an improved probability of success."

The real story here is flights 14 & 15 on LAND!!  That's before the end of this year.

Does this mean they have gotten precise in hitting a designated landing location?

I wonder if F9R-Dev 2 is going to be needed if they keep collecting data with these flights?
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Re: Falcon 9 v1.1 ORBCOMM - First Stage Ocean Landing Video
« Reply #13 on: 07/22/2014 07:40 PM »
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We will attempt our next water landing on flight 13 of Falcon 9, but with a low probability of success. Flights 14 and 15 will attempt to land on a solid surface with an improved probability of success.

I'm wondering if that means 14 & 15 first stage will have falcon feathers (grid fins)?

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Re: Falcon 9 v1.1 ORBCOMM - First Stage Ocean Landing Video
« Reply #14 on: 07/22/2014 07:41 PM »
Now all we need to do is crowd-source a deconvolution of the icing effects on the lens.  No sweat, right? ::)

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Re: Falcon 9 v1.1 ORBCOMM - First Stage Ocean Landing Video
« Reply #15 on: 07/22/2014 07:42 PM »
The landing burn almost looked like it was sputtering.  Why would it look like that?

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Re: Falcon 9 v1.1 ORBCOMM - First Stage Ocean Landing Video
« Reply #16 on: 07/22/2014 07:42 PM »
The real story here is flights 14 & 15 on LAND!!  That's before the end of this year.

Not quite, the quote is 'land on a solid surface.'  Could be a stationary stabilized barge etc. I assume the words were carefully chosen to include a variety of possibilities.

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What an amazing video and exciting information on the road ahead! Let's have our fingers crossed for success meeting the schedule on the upcoming missions, so we can get a real landing by the end of this year!

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Re: Falcon 9 v1.1 ORBCOMM - First Stage Ocean Landing Video
« Reply #18 on: 07/22/2014 07:44 PM »
Capturing this bit of text (from the SpaceX website July 22 article) for posterity or "future reference".

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Re: Falcon 9 v1.1 ORBCOMM - First Stage Ocean Landing Video
« Reply #19 on: 07/22/2014 07:44 PM »
From the update on the SpaceX site:

"We will attempt our next water landing on flight 13 of Falcon 9, but with a low probability of success. Flights 14 and 15 will attempt to land on a solid surface with an improved probability of success."

The real story here is flights 14 & 15 on LAND!!  That's before the end of this year.

Does this mean they have gotten precise in hitting a designated landing location?

I wonder if F9R-Dev 2 is going to be needed if they keep collecting data with these flights?

From the same update...

At this point, we are highly confident of being able to land successfully on a floating launch pad or back at the launch site and refly the rocket with no required refurbishment


Or possibly some sort of barge. :o
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