Quote from: rickl on 10/29/2013 11:47 pmOf course, all of us genuine enthusiasts want to see the full video, or better yet, live coverage; but unfortunately, the companies have to worry about hostile members of Congress and a generally ignorant and sensation-seeking news media.Bingo.
Of course, all of us genuine enthusiasts want to see the full video, or better yet, live coverage; but unfortunately, the companies have to worry about hostile members of Congress and a generally ignorant and sensation-seeking news media.
SNC will eventually release the full video, after they have a couple of completely successful flights under their belt.
Quote from: rickl on 10/29/2013 11:47 pmSNC will eventually release the full video, after they have a couple of completely successful flights under their belt.SpaceX is still sitting on video of its 2006 and 2008 failures. - Ed Kyle
The new version of NASA’s space shuttle, being designed by Sierra Nevada Corp., is vying to carry astronauts to and from the international space station in four or five more years.
I was wondering how long it'd take before that argument found its way to this thread...
How about focusing on what SNC has stated and the media has reported? If you have concerns or disagree with the accuracy of those statements or reports, then by all means state them. If your complaint is lack of transparency, then learn to live with it. No program, government, private, or otherwise has ever been completely transparent. Availability or lack of video of any particular event is no indicator of transparency.In short, IMHO if SNC released complete video of the landing and aftermath, it would matter naught other than to a few.
Did it take a tumble? They seem to be saying now that it did not. Skidded sideways off the runway in a cloud of dust and came to a stop upright?
Quote from: edkyle99 on 10/30/2013 03:21 amQuote from: rickl on 10/29/2013 11:47 pmSNC will eventually release the full video, after they have a couple of completely successful flights under their belt.SpaceX is still sitting on video of its 2006 and 2008 failures. - Ed KyleExactly what is the problem Ed? You don't let a chance go by to display your dismay with commercial companies not showing their failures. This is not NASA. The things these companies do are not public domain. They have every legal right to keep information about these failures from the general public, regardless of them being financed with tax-payers dollars. This is the world of proprietary information. This is how it works. This is how commercial PR works. You celebrate the things that go right, and you downplay the things that went wrong.That's not new. It has been standard MO since the very start of the aerospace industry.
Thanks again for the nice words! Means a lot, because you're the readers. Quote from: jtrame on 10/30/2013 09:58 amDid it take a tumble? They seem to be saying now that it did not. Skidded sideways off the runway in a cloud of dust and came to a stop upright? She took a tumble. They were really careful to avoid words like crash, tumble, flip - but she did. Trust me, I know. But again, she's a strong little girl to do that and "survive". Sure, she looks a mess on the outside, but inside is what counts.
Hi Chris, Thanks for the great article, as always! I have one question - was the airspeed at landing for this test flight similar to what would be expected on an actual reteurn from orbit? Mark
Sure, she looks a mess on the outside, but inside is what counts.
Quote from: Chris Bergin on 10/30/2013 11:56 amThanks again for the nice words! Means a lot, because you're the readers. Quote from: jtrame on 10/30/2013 09:58 amDid it take a tumble? They seem to be saying now that it did not. Skidded sideways off the runway in a cloud of dust and came to a stop upright? She took a tumble. They were really careful to avoid words like crash, tumble, flip - but she did. Trust me, I know. But again, she's a strong little girl to do that and "survive". Sure, she looks a mess on the outside, but inside is what counts.But that would have happened as she scrubbed off speed and diverged from the runway unto the soft sand, which although allowed DC to dig on to her left and presumable over, but cushion the impact.Does that sound fair Chris?