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Re: DARPA Experimental Spaceplane 1 (XS-1) Program
« Reply #560 on: 12/22/2016 03:42 AM »
As previously discussed in the VSS thread;
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/vector-space-systems-completes-acquisition-of-garvey-spacecraft-corporation-to-enhance-micro-satellite-launch-capabilities-300301053.html
I'm missing something. Which XS-1 team is Garvey involved with?
GSS was a separate XS-1 DARPA contract for the second stage only. the other teams are single stage and/or first stage only contracts with which GSS's second stage would fly on any of them for two stage flights.

This one explains it better than the presser: http://defensenews-alert.blogspot.com/2016/09/vector-space-systems-awarded-25m-in.html

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Re: DARPA Experimental Spaceplane 1 (XS-1) Program
« Reply #561 on: 12/22/2016 07:11 PM »
There was also talk of Rocket Lab US derived from Electron. Wasn't lot of detail in article I read, may just be a study.

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Re: DARPA Experimental Spaceplane 1 (XS-1) Program
« Reply #562 on: 02/13/2017 11:33 PM »
Is there any news on this? Is the project dead?

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Re: DARPA Experimental Spaceplane 1 (XS-1) Program
« Reply #563 on: 02/14/2017 01:46 AM »
Is there any news on this? Is the project dead?

Well, they're only running a few weeks behind on the announcement, and some of that may have been due to the presidential transition. I wouldn't assume anything negative about the project yet.

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Re: DARPA Experimental Spaceplane 1 (XS-1) Program
« Reply #564 on: 03/02/2017 12:08 PM »
Thanks Jon!

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Re: DARPA Experimental Spaceplane 1 (XS-1) Program
« Reply #565 on: 03/13/2017 10:36 PM »
I asked DARPA on twitter if the program was still alive, and they actually responded and said that yes it is still running and that Phase II awards are "still pending". No idea how soon they'll announce, but thought everyone might be interested.

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Re: DARPA Experimental Spaceplane 1 (XS-1) Program
« Reply #566 on: 03/13/2017 10:50 PM »
I asked DARPA on twitter if the program was still alive, and they actually responded and said that yes it is still running and that Phase II awards are "still pending". No idea how soon they'll announce, but thought everyone might be interested.

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Last I heard from one of the participating companies was that DARPA was now hoping to award Phase II in the Summer - Autumn 2017 timeframe.

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Re: DARPA Experimental Spaceplane 1 (XS-1) Program
« Reply #567 on: 03/14/2017 12:44 AM »
Last I heard from one of the participating companies was that DARPA was now hoping to award Phase II in the Summer - Autumn 2017 timeframe.
Wow! Why that huge delay?

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Re: DARPA Experimental Spaceplane 1 (XS-1) Program
« Reply #568 on: 03/14/2017 08:36 AM »
Last I heard from one of the participating companies was that DARPA was now hoping to award Phase II in the Summer - Autumn 2017 timeframe.
Wow! Why that huge delay?

The USAF is waiting for their marching orders from the new Administration. Or not.

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Re: DARPA Experimental Spaceplane 1 (XS-1) Program
« Reply #569 on: 03/23/2017 05:25 PM »
The USAF is waiting for their marching orders from the new Administration. Or not.
Wow. Talk about the knock-on effect of a small slip in schedule.  :o

TBH I thought at this level stuff would go through BAU unless the new team made a point of specifically calling a halt.  :(

So maybe something by the end of Q317?
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Re: DARPA Experimental Spaceplane 1 (XS-1) Program
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Re: DARPA Experimental Spaceplane 1 (XS-1) Program
« Reply #571 on: 05/11/2017 04:04 PM »
DARPA XS-1 Spaceplane Award Coming Soon

The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency expects to award a contract for the XS-1 spaceplane program “soon,” according to a contractor authorized to speak about the program. Michael Arnone of Spire Communications said DARPA is indeed in the final stages of a “downselect” to choose one company to proceed into the flying phase of the spaceplane, which is meant to be a two-stage to orbit vehicle potentially able to bring down the cost of space lift “by orders of magnitude,” according to DARPA’s website. Arnone acknowledged that program plans called for the downselect in late 2016 or early this year, but “this is the government and things sometimes take time,” he said. Phase I of the program explored concepts offered by Boeing partnered with Blue Origin, Masten Space Systems teamed with XCOR Aerospace, and Northrop Grumman working with Virgin Galactic. However, the Phase II contractor won’t necessarily be chosen from the three Phase I participants. After downselect, a critical design review would take place in 2018 and a series of flights could be made as early as 2020. One of the program requirements is to fly 10 suborbital or orbital missions in as many days, achieving space operations with “aircraft-like” frequency, DARPA said. If successful, a “public-private partnership” model of operating the vehicles could be adopted, DARPA documents show.

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Re: DARPA Experimental Spaceplane 1 (XS-1) Program
« Reply #572 on: 05/11/2017 05:24 PM »
Sounds like there could be a 4th  participant in the running. Any guesses?.

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Re: DARPA Experimental Spaceplane 1 (XS-1) Program
« Reply #573 on: 05/11/2017 09:35 PM »
Does someone else notice the similarity between a delayed engine test and the delayed XS-1 down selection.
I think I also ansered who the 4th party could be.

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Re: DARPA Experimental Spaceplane 1 (XS-1) Program
« Reply #574 on: 05/11/2017 09:40 PM »
Sounds like there could be a 4th  participant in the running. Any guesses?.

Rocket Lab USA is what we were hearing last year.

Jeff Bezos has billions to spend on rockets and can go at whatever pace he likes! Wow! What pace is he going at? Well... have you heard of Zeno's paradox?

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Re: DARPA Experimental Spaceplane 1 (XS-1) Program
« Reply #575 on: 05/12/2017 12:54 AM »
Sounds like there could be a 4th  participant in the running. Any guesses?.

Rocket Lab USA is what we were hearing last year.
They would need a lot of Rudford engines or larger engine to be able to compete plus another aerospace company with deep pockets and lots of experience. LM comes to mind. An XS-1 class booster would need 350-550klbs of thrust. Masten were looking at 7x 60klbs, Northrop Grumman were using ?x Newton 3 (53-70klbs). Boeing either a few BE3 or BE4, I'm picking BE4 which could explain some of delays as DARPA wait for first testing firing.

Edit. Newton 3 was 265,000 to 335,000 newtons not klbs. Thought it was lot bigger than I remembered.
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Re: DARPA Experimental Spaceplane 1 (XS-1) Program
« Reply #576 on: 05/12/2017 01:01 AM »
... for the second stage.
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Re: DARPA Experimental Spaceplane 1 (XS-1) Program
« Reply #577 on: 05/13/2017 05:48 PM »
New blog post:

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The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) may soon award a contract for the XS-1 spaceplane.

According to Air Force Magazine, DARPA has entered the final stages of a “downselect” to choose one company to proceed into the flying phase of the spaceplane. [...]

http://www.leonarddavid.com/darpa-xs-1-spaceplane-contract-decision-near/

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Re: DARPA Experimental Spaceplane 1 (XS-1) Program
« Reply #578 on: 05/21/2017 02:20 PM »
New blog post:

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The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) may soon award a contract for the XS-1 spaceplane.

According to Air Force Magazine, DARPA has entered the final stages of a “downselect” to choose one company to proceed into the flying phase of the spaceplane. [...]

http://www.leonarddavid.com/darpa-xs-1-spaceplane-contract-decision-near/
Oh my giddy Aunt. :o  This might actually mean there is a (small) real possibility of them actually building something.

I think we're all rooting at this point for Jess Sponable to get this done and get the funds to make this happen.
« Last Edit: 05/21/2017 02:21 PM by john smith 19 »
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Re: DARPA Experimental Spaceplane 1 (XS-1) Program
« Reply #579 on: 05/22/2017 05:44 PM »
New blog post:

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The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) may soon award a contract for the XS-1 spaceplane.

According to Air Force Magazine, DARPA has entered the final stages of a “downselect” to choose one company to proceed into the flying phase of the spaceplane. [...]

http://www.leonarddavid.com/darpa-xs-1-spaceplane-contract-decision-near/
Oh my giddy Aunt. :o  This might actually mean there is a (small) real possibility of them actually building something.

I think we're all rooting at this point for Jess Sponable to get this done and get the funds to make this happen.

I just hope they pick wisely. The rumors I had been hearing six months ago on who the pick would be didn't have me very optimistic though...

~Jon

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