there hasn't been a rail-launched orbital launcher from the US since a long time ago! (Apparently it will even make use of a left-over rail launcher for the Scout rocket that last flew almost 20 years ago!)
Here is the environmental assessment (Nov. 2012)http://www.govsupport.us/ORSSSEA/Documents/DEA.pdfSome interesting facts:* 1st flight is planned for September 2013 with Hiakasat and several cubsats (ORS-4 mission)* 2nd flight is planned for 2014, no payload assigned yet* the 3rd stage is no longer the "Spark-30" (a.k.a. Star-30BP), but a "LEO-1" (likely an Orbus-1)
Spark-30 is only to be flown on first flight according to past reply's I have received because it allows for space on top for additional instrumentation to be flown to gather data for the flight.
Quote from: russianhalo117 on 11/23/2012 08:13 PMSpark-30 is only to be flown on first flight according to past reply's I have received because it allows for space on top for additional instrumentation to be flown to gather data for the flight.That's interessting. The environmental assessment is the most recent document on the Super-Strypi project, which i have found, but i does not mention the Spark-30 anymore. Perhaps they have changed the configuration meanwhile. From when is your info?
I just got some new info on this. I'll try to post.The weird thing is that this rocket seems to have a bunch of different names. I think I saw it at the Aerojet booth listed as "Leonides" but nobody at a press conference used that name.First flight is scheduled for later this year.
What kind of market is this aimed at?
Quote from: Blackstar on 04/26/2013 03:04 AMI just got some new info on this. I'll try to post.The weird thing is that this rocket seems to have a bunch of different names. I think I saw it at the Aerojet booth listed as "Leonides" but nobody at a press conference used that name.First flight is scheduled for later this year.There was a press conference about this rocket? What kind of market is this aimed at? There can't be that many US cubesats flying to support it at more than 1-2 launches per year....
Yeah, a few weeks ago at the National Space Symposium. The press conference was about the upcoming launch, not specifically the rocket. The rocket is sponsored by the USAF's Operationally Responsive Space (ORS) office. Cheap, rapid launch small rocket.I have to admit to being totally surprised by the whole thing. I was sitting at lunch next to someone who told me that they were doing a press conference about it in a few hours and I was free to attend. I did and suddenly discovered that there was a rocket under development--and a planned Hawaii orbital launch--that I had never heard of. And I read a lot of stuff! So I went and got their press packet and the information. Limited info on the rocket itself, more on the payload. I'll scan and post here.
So, like Lambda L4-S? But for very different reasons...
The page 1 that Blackstar posted says that it is spin-stabilized through the entire flight?
...The weird thing is that this rocket seems to have a bunch of different names. I think I saw it at the Aerojet booth listed as "Leonides" but nobody at a press conference used that name....
Rail launcher for Hawaii’s first space launch completedhttp://www.hawaii.edu/news/2013/10/29/rail-launcher-for-hawaiis-first-space-launch-completed/Photo: Sandia National Lab.
It has previously been stated that the rail from SLC-5 would be used.
Okay, here is a paper that appears to date from 1998 that discusses Super Strypi. If I am reading this correctly, it says that there was supposed to be a new rail launcher installed at SLC-5. However, that never happened.My colleague at Vandenberg thinks that the rail from SLC-5 went to Hawaii. Maybe it is being used for another purpose out there.
A contact of mine who runs the Vandenberg Historical Museum at SLC-10, confirmed for me that the SLC-5 launching hardware was indeed sent to Hawaii before the pad's demolition.
So what's up with this? I just saw on the launch schedule that its first flight is planned in November?
Has any western organization made liquids work for less than $16 million?
Has any western organization made liquids work for less than $16 million? SpaceX abandoned the Falcon 1 concept after a few launches, Antonio a while back mentioned that Pegasus was in the $20 million range (Wiki sites has an out of date 1994 number)... Wiki numbers give Vega costing some 1 billion euro's to develop (700 million euro to develop, 400 million euro for the test flights) and 32 million euro's per flight. Using those numbers, $16 million for access to space sounds like a fair price. The only thing currently cheaper is the subsidized Dnepr which uses refurbished ICBM's and may or not be breaking even.Sometimes it is about a payload to a given orbit, and not about the mass to orbit.
Launch cost is mentioned at $16M per mission, which might eventually become $12M per mission. This is for a 300 kg payload. That works out to $53K/kg initially and $40K/kg later. That's not very cheap.
First launch slipping into next January: http://spacenews.com/article/military-space/41923ors-4-launch-from-hawaii-delayed-until-january
Quote from: Galactic Penguin SST on 09/20/2014 07:56 AMFirst launch slipping into next January: http://spacenews.com/article/military-space/41923ors-4-launch-from-hawaii-delayed-until-januaryBump.
Quote from: Danderman on 01/14/2015 10:25 PMQuote from: Galactic Penguin SST on 09/20/2014 07:56 AMFirst launch slipping into next January: http://spacenews.com/article/military-space/41923ors-4-launch-from-hawaii-delayed-until-januaryBump.It has definitely slipped deeper into 2015, but is there any news around about this project?
I haven't seen the "Super Strypi 2" designator before. But during development, the first version was to use the Spark-30 (a.k.a. Star-30BP) stage 3, which was later to be replaced with the LEO-1 (Orbus-1A) stage 3. In the current plan, the 1st vehicle will also fly with an LEO-1 upper stage, i.e. in the second configuration, which is possibly dubbed "Super Strypi 2".
Mid-2016, according to the FY 2016 budget request. Apparently there are issues with the first stage motor.http://www.saffm.hq.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-150130-013.pdfLook under FY 2015 plans on page 226.
GEM 46 is an ATK product, what does that have to do with Aerojet?
Who provides the TVC on the GEM-46?
Quote from: Danderman on 02/14/2015 02:38 PMGEM 46 is an ATK product, what does that have to do with Aerojet?That is a very good question. All I know is that "LEO-46 a.k.a. GEM-46" is listed in numerous sources. The numerous sources might be mistaken, or ATK might supply the core solid motor to Aerojet, or some other arrangement might have been involved. - Ed Kyle
Mid-2016, according to the FY 2016 budget request. Apparently there are issues with the first stage motor.
Quote from: JH on 02/13/2015 02:05 AMMid-2016, according to the FY 2016 budget request. Apparently there are issues with the first stage motor.Sheesh. I sat in a press briefing on this mission/flight in May 2013 and the launch was then scheduled for November. It has now slipped almost three years since then?I feel sorry for the university students who worked on the payload. They're all gonna be graduated, if they haven't already. But to be honest, I couldn't figure this thing out at all. It didn't seem like a capability that anybody requires. I wonder if it was earmarked money, or somebody's pet project.
That seminar, was it at a "US Space and Missile Defense Symposium"? I think the answer to the question about capability lies within that phrase somewhere. It is a Sandia project, after all. It seems to me that the all-new motors are superfluous unless they are being developed for some long-term purpose. I also suspect that the original "cheap" development costs have ballooned.
Interesting read, so who offered $30 million for SBSS? Orbital on a Pegasus?
But, can Minotaur I reach the 0 degree orbit that SBSS requires. A very interesting puzzle.
Any news on a possible second flight?
Quote from: Skyrocket on 12/28/2016 03:41 PMAny news on a possible second flight?The ORS-Squared payload has finished assembly and testing and is ready for integration with the launch vehicle. ORS-Squared is flying on this flight according to some information I got a hold of which includes this site: http://cosmiac.org/space-missions/ors-squared/ Other than that I cannot find any new information and University of Hawaii's Hawaii Space Flight Laboratory has dropped all references to the LEONIDAS mission series and have moved on to sounding rockets. I have some other places to check for information, but that is all I can find so far.NET 2017 - ORS-Squared (ORS2), STU-2: Second LEONIDAS Mission (CubeSats, Small Satellites) - SPARK/Super Strypi - Kauai Test Facility (KTF) PMRF-41
One and done. Any others beside Conestoga? (Not including sole sub-variants of existing launch vehicle families.) - Ed Kyle
Quote from: edkyle99 on 12/29/2016 05:53 PMOne and done. Any others beside Conestoga? (Not including sole sub-variants of existing launch vehicle families.) - Ed KylePaektusan carrying Kwangmyŏngsŏng-1 perhaps. The launch vehicle was derived from the Taepodong-1 missile with a solid upper stage added. The rest of North Korean launches have used the Unha based on the Taepodong-2 missile.