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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #120 on: 06/21/2016 05:58 AM »
So in fact the launch site is right, it's over the variant of CZ-5.

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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #121 on: 06/21/2016 06:26 AM »
So in fact the launch site is right, it's over the variant of CZ-5.

Tiangong 2 will use the CZ-2F/T from Jiuquan and NOT the CZ-5B from the new launch site.

The nerk who wrote the story confused the Tiangong launch with the maiden flight of the CZ-5 - both are currently scheduled for September.

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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #122 on: 06/21/2016 04:59 PM »
Some details
The grapple fixture and end effector design is probably just a place holder, but it would be interesting to see if the Chinese blatantly copies it.
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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #123 on: 06/23/2016 12:53 PM »
English language presentations on 'Chinese Mir':

http://www.unoosa.org/documents/pdf/copuos/2016/copuos2016tech20E.pdf
http://www.unoosa.org/documents/pdf/psa/hsti/CostaRica2016/5-2.pdf

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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #124 on: 06/24/2016 07:06 AM »
The last paragraph is interesting. I hope they keep to their word.

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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #125 on: 06/24/2016 07:49 PM »
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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #126 on: 06/24/2016 10:06 PM »
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This is sections that make up the (TH) Tianhe Space Station Core Module.

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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #127 on: 06/25/2016 12:20 AM »
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This is sections that make up the (TH) Tianhe Space Station Core Module.

indeed

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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #129 on: 06/26/2016 06:50 PM »
Larger photo of the first scene of the video presented in screenshots above:

http://www.chinaspaceflight.com/usr/uploads/2016/06/24/1466769707125040.jpg

showing Tian He test or flight hardware being processed, with multiple docking adapter featuring three docking ports and an EVA hatch, robotic arm grappling points and what looks like the main body of the module in the left background.

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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #130 on: 06/26/2016 10:17 PM »
Can anyone of you please provide a link to that video?
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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #131 on: 06/27/2016 02:26 AM »
Larger photo of the first scene of the video presented in screenshots above:

http://www.chinaspaceflight.com/usr/uploads/2016/06/24/1466769707125040.jpg

showing Tian He test or flight hardware being processed, with multiple docking adapter featuring three docking ports and an EVA hatch, robotic arm grappling points and what looks like the main body of the module in the left background.
That is the small diameter section in the background. large diameter section is not shown.

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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #132 on: 06/27/2016 03:45 PM »
Additional views here: http://imgur.com/a/th8b6

In the bottom one, the large diameter section seems to be visible in the background on the left.

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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #133 on: 06/27/2016 05:56 PM »
Additional views here: http://imgur.com/a/th8b6

In the bottom one, the large diameter section seems to be visible in the background on the left.
yes indeed. it appears to be half or two thirds of it of the whole LDS. with the missing half or third being the propulson and station keeping business end of the core module

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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #134 on: 06/28/2016 09:21 PM »
Larger photo of the first scene of the video presented in screenshots above:

http://www.chinaspaceflight.com/usr/uploads/2016/06/24/1466769707125040.jpg

showing Tian He test or flight hardware being processed, with multiple docking adapter featuring three docking ports and an EVA hatch, robotic arm grappling points and what looks like the main body of the module in the left background.
Do I see a Lyappa fixture?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyappa_arm
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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #135 on: 06/28/2016 10:21 PM »
Larger photo of the first scene of the video presented in screenshots above:

http://www.chinaspaceflight.com/usr/uploads/2016/06/24/1466769707125040.jpg

showing Tian He test or flight hardware being processed, with multiple docking adapter featuring three docking ports and an EVA hatch, robotic arm grappling points and what looks like the main body of the module in the left background.
Do I see a Lyappa fixture?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyappa_arm
Yes and it is licensed either peacefully or by threat from Russia like nearly everything else .

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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #136 on: 03/20/2017 08:23 AM »
Time to revive this snoozing thread methinks! :)

A couple of queries for which someone might know the answer.

When the names for the components of the Tiangong Complex (as I call the station) appeared, the second plug-on module was given the name Xuntian but the latest data show that the name is actually to be Mangtian, with the free-flying space telescope being Xuntian.   I am wondering whether there has been a genuine name switch for the second module or what there was a bureaucratic blunder which led to the "Xuntian" name being applied to the wrong piece of the Tiangong Complex "kit" when the first details were released and this error simply got repeated in other literature.   

Thoughts anyone?

Next, a query that needs someone who knows the Chinese language well.   China is a predominantly atheist country and therefore the use of "Heavenly" as part of spacecraft names seems to be rather strange.   I am wondering whether what we translate as "heavenly" might convey something like "beyond the atmosphere" (ie, outer space) rather than having religious associations.   Same with "divine" as part of the Shenzhou name.

I would be interested in any thoughts about this as well please.

Many thanks in advance.
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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #137 on: 03/20/2017 09:15 AM »
This is exciting stuff and great to hear! I wish them great luck and success.
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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #138 on: 03/21/2017 06:36 AM »
When the names for the components of the Tiangong Complex (as I call the station) appeared, the second plug-on module was given the name Xuntian but the latest data show that the name is actually to be Mangtian, with the free-flying space telescope being Xuntian.

Using http://www.chinesetools.eu/tools/zhuyin/ the transliteration of 梦天 is Meng Tian, not Mang Tian.
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Re: Chinese Modular Space Station - circa 2020
« Reply #139 on: 03/21/2017 07:01 AM »
When the names for the components of the Tiangong Complex (as I call the station) appeared, the second plug-on module was given the name Xuntian but the latest data show that the name is actually to be Mangtian, with the free-flying space telescope being Xuntian.
Using http://www.chinesetools.eu/tools/zhuyin/ the transliteration of 梦天 is Meng Tian, not Mang Tian.

Thank you Steven - although the problem could be my lousy eyesight misreading a reference!

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