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Re: KH-8 GAMBIT Reconnaissance Satellite
« Reply #40 on: 01/26/2012 11:15 PM »
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Re: KH-8 GAMBIT Reconnaissance Satellite
« Reply #41 on: 01/27/2012 02:16 AM »

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Re: KH-8 GAMBIT Reconnaissance Satellite
« Reply #42 on: 01/27/2012 02:21 AM »

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Re: KH-8 GAMBIT Reconnaissance Satellite
« Reply #43 on: 01/27/2012 02:32 AM »
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Re: KH-8 GAMBIT Reconnaissance Satellite
« Reply #44 on: 01/27/2012 05:38 AM »
Thanks for posting the photos. Very revealing. Loved the N-1 image.
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Re: KH-8 GAMBIT Reconnaissance Satellite
« Reply #45 on: 01/27/2012 06:24 AM »
Impressive. Take that, Google earth !

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Re: KH-8 GAMBIT Reconnaissance Satellite
« Reply #46 on: 01/27/2012 12:48 PM »
To early in the morning to remember that the abbreviation for nautical miles is the same abbreviation for nano meters. That or they achieved some really impressive images with the system ;)

Thanks for posting
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Re: KH-8 GAMBIT Reconnaissance Satellite
« Reply #47 on: 01/27/2012 04:58 PM »
 
Just for the halibut, I got the Google Earth images of the ekranoplan area shown in the KH-8 pix and put them all together in the attached pdf.
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Re: KH-8 GAMBIT Reconnaissance Satellite
« Reply #48 on: 01/27/2012 06:57 PM »
SovietAircraftCarrier.jpg  is pretty close to the picture that got Morrison thrown in jail
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Re: KH-8 GAMBIT Reconnaissance Satellite
« Reply #49 on: 01/27/2012 07:04 PM »
SovietAircraftCarrier.jpg  is pretty close to the picture that got Morrison thrown in jail

Which is exactly why they included it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Loring_Morison

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Re: KH-8 GAMBIT Reconnaissance Satellite
« Reply #50 on: 01/27/2012 09:34 PM »
SovietAircraftCarrier.jpg  is pretty close to the picture that got Morrison thrown in jail

Which is exactly why they included it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Loring_Morison


Heh. I give the NRO points for wicked humor on that one.
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Re: KH-8 GAMBIT Reconnaissance Satellite
« Reply #51 on: 01/28/2012 08:15 PM »
Here is a recon photo of the Kiev in 1980. Note that they accidentally flipped the image. The island is supposed to be on the starboard side, not the port side. iPhoto won't let me flip an image, however.

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Re: KH-8 GAMBIT Reconnaissance Satellite
« Reply #52 on: 01/28/2012 08:30 PM »
Russian text included.............. :D
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Re: KH-8 GAMBIT Reconnaissance Satellite
« Reply #53 on: 01/28/2012 10:24 PM »
Russian text included.............. :D

Actually, English spoken backward is Swedish...

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Re: KH-8 GAMBIT Reconnaissance Satellite
« Reply #54 on: 01/30/2012 07:00 PM »
http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2013/1

The geometry of shadows
by Dwayne A. Day
Monday, January 30, 2012

On September 19, 1968, GAMBIT mission 4316 sailed high over the arid Kazakh steppes. The GAMBIT 3—known as the KH-8 to the community that used its products—was a long, thin spacecraft, looking something like a pencil. Inside, the finest in American optics, manufactured by Kodak, stared down at the ground below. Those optics focused on a marvel of modern chemistry, a film, also manufactured by Kodak, that had an incredibly fine grain so that it could capture as much of the image that shown on it as possible as the film moved past a thin slit on the focal plane. That film could be enlarged many times on print, although the hard analysis was done on film positives spread over a light table in a windowless building at the edge of the Washington, DC, Navy Yard, where photo-interpreters stared at panchromatic images and measured shadows and applied basic geometry to determine the heights of objects.

On this September day the Americans got lucky. The skies over the primary Soviet rocket and missile test facility were clear. And down at Tyura-Tam, as it was then known, the Soviets were doing something very interesting. They had rolled out their Moon rocket, a giant vehicle as tall as a Saturn V. It occupied one of their two triad-shaped launch pads. The Americans photographed it at incredibly high resolution. The CIA labeled this the “J vehicle” because they had designated its launch facility at Tyura-Tam as “Complex J” (the Sputnik launch pad, the first identified by the CIA in U-2 overflights, had been designated Complex A). Much later western analysts came to know it as the N-1.

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Re: KH-8 GAMBIT Reconnaissance Satellite
« Reply #55 on: 01/31/2012 01:26 AM »
Nice article ... +1
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Re: KH-8 GAMBIT Reconnaissance Satellite
« Reply #56 on: 01/31/2012 02:43 PM »
Thank you, that's very kind.

We rarely get much feedback at TSR unless it's a "rah rah SpaceX is great!" or "NASA sucks" article, which usually initiates the usual food fight among the usual fanboys.
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Re: KH-8 GAMBIT Reconnaissance Satellite
« Reply #57 on: 01/31/2012 04:32 PM »
Rah Rah Rah, Orbital is great ;)
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Re: KH-8 GAMBIT Reconnaissance Satellite
« Reply #58 on: 01/31/2012 06:08 PM »
http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2013/1

The geometry of shadows
by Dwayne A. Day
Monday, January 30, 2012

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Thanks for writing and posting this - nice perspective!

Seems to me that there is indeed no present-day "intelligence" (but high historical) value in these more than 25 year old reconnaissance images - even of what might have been some of the highest priority targets. It's a pity, though, that these images are still released in degraded quality (but of course much better than releasing nothing at all).

I presume KENNEN is not a deliberate spelling mistake? Interesting...   ;)

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Re: KH-8 GAMBIT Reconnaissance Satellite
« Reply #59 on: 01/31/2012 07:22 PM »
I presume KENNEN is not a deliberate spelling mistake? Interesting...   ;)

Sharp eye...

We have circumstantial evidence that the correct spelling is "Kennen" and not "Kennan." I think it was Bill Burrows who first published the word "Kennan" in Deep Black. He may have misspelled what was told to him by somebody who was familiar with the system.
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