There HAS to be a video somewhere out there of the first attempt of STS-51F, when the engines shutdown at T-3.I've seen the ATO video and that's all; youtube has all the other pad-aborts, but no one seems to have video of this one.... any ideas?
Don't know if you have seen this:Remember I had seen this as I was browsing video of the 41D abort. Been reading Riding Rockets, Mike Mullane is hilarious.
Bumping this.. since maybe SOMEbody out there has the video of the STS-51F Challenger T-3 RSLS pad abort... >>>>>>>>>>>>> ??
Quote from: STS-85 on 04/01/2011 01:39 amBumping this.. since maybe SOMEbody out there has the video of the STS-51F Challenger T-3 RSLS pad abort... >>>>>>>>>>>>> ?? There are a bunch of videos on You Tube on this event:http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=STS-51+abort&aq=f
Quote from: STS-85 on 11/29/2010 12:03 amThere HAS to be a video somewhere out there of the first attempt of STS-51F, when the engines shutdown at T-3.I've seen the ATO video and that's all; youtube has all the other pad-aborts, but no one seems to have video of this one.... any ideas?I have one or two minutes on VHS, but it is PAL-system. And I can't covert it to post it here. Sorry.
Quote from: jaysvw on 12/11/2010 05:50 amDon't know if you have seen this:Remember I had seen this as I was browsing video of the 41D abort. Been reading Riding Rockets, Mike Mullane is hilarious. That's STS-51 (Discovery) pad abort on Aug. 12 1993. The one requested is STS-51F (Challenger) pad abort on Jul. 12 1985.
Wow... I remember *THIS* one clearly!I was Lead FDO on STS-51, and was in the MPSR for this launch, as I was deploying the ACTS-TOS on the post-Ascent Orbit 2 shift. I was already wired for the deploy, but when the pad abort happened, I didn't know what to do with all that nervous energy!I think I was on an adrenaline high for a couple of hours... but, for some strange reason, when we got the *actual* launch one month later, I was as cool as a cucumber.
Heh, that was a long launch campaign for STS-51. How wired were you for the attempt three weeks earlier that cutoff inside T-31?
Watching it on youtube you can see how much the shuttle is oscillating when the swing arm moves into position.
It looks like you can kind of tell something is up with the engines at startup because you can hear a loud 'pop'.
Quote from: rjholling on 06/04/2011 01:45 amWatching it on youtube you can see how much the shuttle is oscillating when the swing arm moves into position. Isn't that the arm bouncing around?
Quote from: rdale on 06/04/2011 03:09 amQuote from: rjholling on 06/04/2011 01:45 amWatching it on youtube you can see how much the shuttle is oscillating when the swing arm moves into position. Isn't that the arm bouncing around?No.. Shuttle stack. If you watch the close up videos at main engine start, the whole stack rocks a bit.
I have audio coverage of STS 51-F launch abort on audio tape, but no video tape. Once again, does any space fans have video of the STS51-F launch abort?
Quote from: rdale on 06/04/2011 03:09 amQuote from: rjholling on 06/04/2011 01:45 amWatching it on youtube you can see how much the shuttle is oscillating when the swing arm moves into position. Isn't that the arm bouncing around?No.. Shuttle stack. If you watch the close up videos at main engine start, the whole stack rocks a bit.Huge offset load from SSME's start.. The whole stack only held down at the bottom of the SSRBs.. which while very stiff still flex under the SSME load.. (actually they unload as they are flexed a bit to shuttle side by it's mass when sitting at pad. then when SSME light and offset the mass of the shuttle the SSRB casing straighten out then load other way). At cutoff.. when offset load is removed.. the whole stack sways back toward the orbiter.. then oscillates for a while. The SSRBs are big beams(read springs) in essence.. held at one end like a diving board.
Quote from: TrueBlueWitt on 06/04/2011 04:11 amQuote from: rdale on 06/04/2011 03:09 amQuote from: rjholling on 06/04/2011 01:45 amWatching it on youtube you can see how much the shuttle is oscillating when the swing arm moves into position. Isn't that the arm bouncing around?No.. Shuttle stack. If you watch the close up videos at main engine start, the whole stack rocks a bit.Huge offset load from SSME's start.. The whole stack only held down at the bottom of the SSRBs.. which while very stiff still flex under the SSME load.. (actually they unload as they are flexed a bit to shuttle side by it's mass when sitting at pad. then when SSME light and offset the mass of the shuttle the SSRB casing straighten out then load other way). At cutoff.. when offset load is removed.. the whole stack sways back toward the orbiter.. then oscillates for a while. The SSRBs are big beams(read springs) in essence.. held at one end like a diving board.Sorry, you are wrong. The stack does oscillate but no where near that fast. The wobbling in the video is caused by the Orbiter Access Arm swinging back and forth after the fast extend. Look at the hatch frame and the hatch bridge mounted on the right and left walls. They are rocking back and forth on their hinge restraints, in unison and in time with the movements of the swing arm.
Quote from: jacqmans on 05/29/2011 09:42 amQuote from: STS-85 on 11/29/2010 12:03 amThere HAS to be a video somewhere out there of the first attempt of STS-51F, when the engines shutdown at T-3.I've seen the ATO video and that's all; youtube has all the other pad-aborts, but no one seems to have video of this one.... any ideas?The film can now be downloaded in the L2 movie section For some reason when I got to the L2 movie section, I got an error message saying that the file is missing.
Quote from: STS-85 on 11/29/2010 12:03 amThere HAS to be a video somewhere out there of the first attempt of STS-51F, when the engines shutdown at T-3.I've seen the ATO video and that's all; youtube has all the other pad-aborts, but no one seems to have video of this one.... any ideas?The film can now be downloaded in the L2 movie section
Quote from: jacqmans on 05/29/2011 09:42 amQuote from: STS-85 on 11/29/2010 12:03 amThere HAS to be a video somewhere out there of the first attempt of STS-51F, when the engines shutdown at T-3.I've seen the ATO video and that's all; youtube has all the other pad-aborts, but no one seems to have video of this one.... any ideas?The film can now be downloaded in the L2 movie section do you have a link ?
Interesting bit starting about 19:32, with visible flame between the orbiter and the ET (or so it looks to me).
Quote from: mheney on 04/09/2014 09:13 pmInteresting bit starting about 19:32, with visible flame between the orbiter and the ET (or so it looks to me).There's footage from several different events in the video; after the 51-F pad abort footage, that short part is from the 41-D pad abort a year earlier.
STS-51F ABORT TO ORBITThis video is a reconstruction of the only Space Shuttle launch abort in it's 30 year history, using the NASA TV video alongside simulator and graphics.Coverage begins at T-20 minutes in the countdown. Film taken on the day shows the inside of the launch control center and the Kennedy Space Center, the crowds waiting for the launch and crew breakfast/walkout/orbiter ingress. A stylised countdown checklist is used to the zero point in the count. Multi angles of launch are used along with MOCR footage of the flight director/Capcom/booster officer and simulator/graphics to show different stages of the launch and powered flight stage.After Main Engine Cut Off, TV coverage continues, with simulator and photos from the mission. The coverage ends before the OMS 2 burn. All photos/video/audio courtesy NASA