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Offline duane

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #20 on: 03/02/2009 09:21 PM »
Jeff Bezos was on Charlie Rose last week and they briefly touched on Blue Origin. Nothing in detail though

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #21 on: 03/12/2009 09:32 PM »
Another Blue Origin mystery:
http://n5lp.net/Saltflatmystery.html

Bezos has apperently build a new airport on his land. Is he planning to switch to horizontal landing or is this airport unrelated to Blue Origin and is Bezos renting his land to the CIA like the website owner speculates?


It is apparently not that new because it is allready visible on this satellite photo from march 2007. http://archive.digitalglobe.com/archive/showBrowse.php?catID=1010010005806A0A

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #22 on: 04/23/2009 07:28 PM »
Hammer Mechanical Inc which build the tooling for Goddard has a picture of Goddard on their website during a static hot fire:
http://hammerbc.com/gallery.html
I wonder how long it will take before they pull the image after an email from Blue Origin :).


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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #23 on: 04/23/2009 07:58 PM »
Another Blue Origin mystery:
http://n5lp.net/Saltflatmystery.html

Bezos has apperently build a new airport on his land. Is he planning to switch to horizontal landing or is this airport unrelated to Blue Origin and is Bezos renting his land to the CIA like the website owner speculates?


Although it is unlikely that the CIA is using this land, it is within the realm of possibility that the purpose of this project is hidden behind a cover story of a space tourism project, as that cover would certainly be plausible enough for most people not to think much about the mystery. However, I have no idea what could lie beneath if this were a cover story.

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #24 on: 04/24/2009 01:06 AM »
New photos (4/18) at the site http://n5lp.net/Saltflatmystery.html

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #25 on: 07/27/2009 12:48 PM »
There's has been another update at the website: http://n5lp.net/Saltflatmystery.html (2009/06/26). Some mobile buildings have been installed at the site and they are contructing something that looks like a small contol tower.

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #26 on: 08/31/2009 01:37 AM »
I used the pictures from the "Salt Flat Mystery" website and other random aerial pictures to add a few marks to this map:
 http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=115549724156132869845.000463e960dc2fc6a2fae
These should be relevant to Blue Origin's effort (we don't know if the airport is).
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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #27 on: 09/24/2009 12:56 PM »
There's has been another update at the website: http://n5lp.net/Saltflatmystery.html (2009/06/26). Some mobile buildings have been installed at the site and they are contructing something that looks like a small contol tower.

Another update at the Salt flat mystery website: it looks like it is indeed a small control tower that was constructed. He also got a fuzy picture of a sign at the airport. Is anybody able to read it?
He also took some pictures of the spaceport site. It seems to be coming back to life: some cars are present and the supports for static test firings of the vehicle are present at the launch pad.

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #28 on: 10/16/2009 11:16 PM »
Alan Stern gives an interesting presentation on this page about suborbital research: http://www.dsls.usra.edu/grandrounds/20090922/. His presentation is also available: http://www.dsls.usra.edu/grandrounds/20090922/stern.pdf

He also gives some interesting details about Blue Origin. The propulsion module of new shepard has been build and will start testing soon. The crew capsule will be added on top. The big black cilinder in the picture of their production hall (also in his presentation) is a part of the propulsion module. It is about 33ft high. There's a small cgi picture of what i assume is the propulsion module.

There's a big space collection inside the Blue Origin building. New Shepard functions as the training wheels for further space projects.

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #29 on: 10/17/2009 06:56 AM »
What with the similarities between New Shepard and Delta Clipper, which was done by Boeing, it's an interesting speculation that maybe they're still involved - perhaps through Phantom Works.  I *think* I read that several Boeing types ended up at Blue Origin - can anyone confirm/deny?

Can't imagine Boeing letting go of anything like Delta Clippers advanced avionics unless they had a stake in or licensed it. 
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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #30 on: 10/17/2009 10:56 PM »
Can't imagine Boeing letting go of anything like Delta Clippers advanced avionics unless they had a stake in or licensed it. 

IIRC, the avionics suite for Delta Clipper was an off the shelf FA-18 package.

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #31 on: 10/18/2009 01:32 AM »
F-15 laser gyro at least IIRC...
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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #32 on: 10/18/2009 04:14 AM »
That's the advantage today's startups have. Much of the avionics is off the shelf and just needs a little integration.

Try duplicatiing GPS capability if you had to build it yourself, with no satelites...

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #33 on: 10/18/2009 06:28 AM »
That's the advantage today's startups have. Much of the avionics is off the shelf and just needs a little integration.

Try duplicatiing GPS capability if you had to build it yourself, with no satelites...

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #34 on: 10/18/2009 06:35 AM »
That's the advantage today's startups have. Much of the avionics is off the shelf and just needs a little integration.

Try duplicatiing GPS capability if you had to build it yourself, with no satelites...

Three guys with binoculars.   ::)

That'll tell YOU where the rocket is. Try telling the rocket 10 times per second. :)

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #35 on: 10/18/2009 02:13 PM »
That'll tell YOU where the rocket is. Try telling the rocket 10 times per second. :)

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #36 on: 10/21/2009 05:46 AM »
Seems the "Salt Flat Mystery" is just some military parachute exercise ground. Some private military contractor, like Blackwater? The shots of Blue Origin show what look like a 1/6 section of the New Shepherd outside on a jig. Seems dark grey, like a carbon composite.
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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #37 on: 10/26/2009 02:51 PM »
Seems the "Salt Flat Mystery" is just some military parachute exercise ground. Some private military contractor, like Blackwater? The shots of Blue Origin show what look like a 1/6 section of the New Shepherd outside on a jig. Seems dark grey, like a carbon composite.

Hmmm, could the military be backing Blue Origin as a black ops squad delivery vehicle, to overfly a country suborbitally, dropping the squad with retro rockets and parachutes? Perhaps this explains all the secrecy around Blue Origin. Even the company name sounds like some Area 51 black project.
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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #38 on: 10/26/2009 03:02 PM »

Hmmm, could the military be backing Blue Origin as a black ops squad delivery vehicle, to overfly a country suborbitally, dropping the squad with retro rockets and parachutes? Perhaps this explains all the secrecy around Blue Origin. Even the company name sounds like some Area 51 black project.

that concept has been debunked many times.  It is not militarily feasible.  Again, you are seeing things that don't exist.

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #39 on: 10/26/2009 03:18 PM »

Hmmm, could the military be backing Blue Origin as a black ops squad delivery vehicle, to overfly a country suborbitally, dropping the squad with retro rockets and parachutes? Perhaps this explains all the secrecy around Blue Origin. Even the company name sounds like some Area 51 black project.

that concept has been debunked many times.  It is not militarily feasible.  Again, you are seeing things that don't exist.

I believe that this is an infeasible concept, too. Otherwise, they would do it already with planes like the U-2 or something.

Anyways, a much more valid reason explaining the lack of news is that the people involved just don't see the value in having a blog about every move they make.
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