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Launched August 14, 0126 Local (0526 UTC) on Falcon 9-28
Launch successful, first stage recovery on drone ship successful


Satellite built by SSL for Sky Perfect JSAT Corp, to serve as in-orbit backup and expansion capacity for the Japanese market.  Based on SSL-1300 satellite bus. 8.5kw Ku/Ka band.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 - JCSAT-16 - August 14, 2016 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #1 on: 06/23/2016 02:09 pm »
Did this just get bumped?  There's only 5 weeks between July 18th and Aug 22nd (Amos-6).  Be pretty tight to try and squeeze it in.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 - JCSAT-16 - August 14, 2016 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #2 on: 06/23/2016 02:28 pm »
Did this just get bumped?  There's only 5 weeks between July 18th and Aug 22nd (Amos-6).  Be pretty tight to try and squeeze it in.

They can launch payloads that fast if they have the rockets ready.  Hopefully that means JCSAT-16 (or something else) launches in early August.  It would really be helpful for them to launch two payloads from Cape Canaveral in August if they want to get through their manifest for the year (which is becoming increasingly unlikely but still not impossible).

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Did this just get bumped?  There's only 5 weeks between July 18th and Aug 22nd (Amos-6).  Be pretty tight to try and squeeze it in.

They can launch payloads that fast if they have the rockets ready.  Hopefully that means JCSAT-16 (or something else) launches in early August.  It would really be helpful for them to launch two payloads from Cape Canaveral in August if they want to get through their manifest for the year (which is becoming increasingly unlikely but still not impossible).

Exactly between July 18 and August 22 is August 4, giving a period of 17 days between CRS-9 and JCSat-16, and JCSat-16 and Amos-6.

A tight schedule, to be sure, but SpaceX has done turnarounds of ~17 or fewer days between launches twice before.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 - JCSAT-16 - August 14, 2016 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #4 on: 06/23/2016 04:06 pm »
The good thing for Dragon launches is that they process their Dragon on a different building, and thus they can work in parallel to their comm sat clients. The bad thing is that Dragon launches depend on ISS schedule and thus are quite "slippery".
Besides, short turnaround of comm sats was possible when the same manufacturer launched two birds in sequence (say two OrbitalATK birds, or two SSL), since they can use the same team, GSE, etc and pipeline their work. JCSAT-16 is SSL and AMOS-6 is IAI. So SSL team will have to uninstall, and vacate the premises before IAI's team can come in and install their equipment. I'm assuming that they won't be able to do it in such a short time.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 - JCSAT-16 - August 14, 2016 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #5 on: 06/23/2016 04:16 pm »
The good thing for Dragon launches is that they process their Dragon on a different building, and thus they can work in parallel to their comm sat clients.

Same building

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=34516.msg1286868#msg1286868
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 - JCSAT-16 - August 14, 2016 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #6 on: 06/23/2016 05:02 pm »
The good thing for Dragon launches is that they process their Dragon on a different building, and thus they can work in parallel to their comm sat clients.

Same building

There are two cells and a holding cell.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 - JCSAT-16 - August 14, 2016 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #7 on: 06/23/2016 05:35 pm »
Have any of the SpaceX commercial payloads used Astrotech?

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 - JCSAT-16 - August 14, 2016 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #8 on: 06/23/2016 06:34 pm »
Have any of the SpaceX commercial payloads used Astrotech?

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 - JCSAT-16 - August 14, 2016 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #9 on: 06/23/2016 06:41 pm »
Have any of the SpaceX commercial payloads used Astrotech?

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 - JCSAT-16 - August 14, 2016 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #10 on: 06/23/2016 08:07 pm »
The good thing for Dragon launches is that they process their Dragon on a different building, and thus they can work in parallel to their comm sat clients.

Same building

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=34516.msg1286868#msg1286868
But a dedicated cell? I understood that Dragon had a dedicated processing facility that didn't interferred with commercial clients.
Can they have parallel GTO processing teams on top of Dragon?
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 - JCSAT-16 - August 14, 2016 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #11 on: 06/23/2016 08:11 pm »
The good thing for Dragon launches is that they process their Dragon on a different building, and thus they can work in parallel to their comm sat clients.

Same building

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=34516.msg1286868#msg1286868
But a dedicated cell? I understood that Dragon had a dedicated processing facility that didn't interferred with commercial clients.
Can they have parallel GTO processing teams on top of Dragon?

Three missions can be processed concurrently.

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 SSL Delivers communications satellite for sky perfect jsat TO cape canaveral launch base

PALO ALTO, Calif. – July 13, 2016 — Space Systems Loral (SSL), a leading provider of innovative satellites and spacecraft systems, today announced that the JCSAT-16 satellite, which it designed and built for SKY Perfect JSAT Corporation, has arrived at the Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida, where it will launch aboard a SpaceX Falcon 9 launch vehicle. The satellite, which is currently being prepared for launch, will function as an in-orbit back-up that will ensure stability for existing services and further strengthen the foundations of SKY Perfect JSAT Corporation’s business.

“JCSAT-16 will be our second satellite for SKY Perfect JSAT to launch this year,” said John Celli, president of SSL. “It has been an honor to work together with our Japanese colleagues to build this satellite that has the flexibility to meet the demand for a variety of missions, and we look forward to collaborating on the launch.” 

JCSAT-16 is an 8.5-kW satellite designed to serve the Japanese market from multiple orbital locations. It is a multi-mission Ku- and Ka-band satellite, which will provide service for video distribution, data transfer communications, and fleet redundancy.

“When launched, JCSAT-16 will provide us with the flexibility to reinforce our growing fleet as needed, ensuring the highest level of reliability for our customers,” said Shinji Takada, Representative Director, President and CEO of SKY Perfect JSAT. “SSL has been an excellent partner in support of our fleet expansion and we are pleased to hear that the satellite has safely arrived at the launch base in Cape Canaveral, Florida.”

JCSAT-16 is based on the highly flexible SSL 1300 platform, which has the capability to support a broad range of applications and technology advances. SSL is also building JCSAT-15, which is also scheduled to launch in 2016.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 - JCSAT-16 - August 14, 2016 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #13 on: 07/18/2016 11:58 am »
JCSAT-16's lateral antennae look like the diamond crystal lasers from Diamonds Are Forever; just sayin'  ;)

SpaceX are supposedly aiming for 'early August' for this mission. Is the bird at the Cape yet? What about the booster?
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 - JCSAT-16 - August 14, 2016 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #14 on: 07/18/2016 02:31 pm »
JCSAT-16's lateral antennae look like the diamond crystal lasers from Diamonds Are Forever; just sayin'  ;)

SpaceX are supposedly aiming for 'early August' for this mission. Is the bird at the Cape yet? What about the booster?

The press release above is about spacecraft at launch site, but no idea about the booster.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 - JCSAT-16 - August 14, 2016 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #15 on: 07/18/2016 08:42 pm »
There's a booster at the cape now.  Low miles, only used once.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 - JCSAT-16 - August 14, 2016 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #16 on: 07/19/2016 11:57 pm »
JCSAT-16's lateral antennae look like the diamond crystal lasers from Diamonds Are Forever; just sayin'  ;)

Let me be the first to welcome our robotic insect overlords!  Sorry, I think they all look like multi-faceted bug eyes.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 - JCSAT-16 - August 14, 2016 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #17 on: 07/19/2016 11:59 pm »
JCSAT-16's lateral antennae look like the diamond crystal lasers from Diamonds Are Forever; just sayin'  ;)

Let me be the first to welcome our robotic insect overlords!  Sorry, I think they all look like multi-faceted bug eyes.

I'm sure they'll make facet work of us ... ;D

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 - JCSAT-16 - August 14, 2016 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #18 on: 07/20/2016 11:17 am »
There's a booster at the cape now.  Low miles, only used once.

Hows the airworthiness certificate?  ;D

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 - JCSAT-16 - August 14, 2016 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #19 on: 07/22/2016 06:07 am »
The SpaceX manifest page is showing JCSat 16 as the next launch.

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