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Offline anik

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #760 on: 01/14/2010 05:01 pm »
Sorry but the pictures you showed are of Buran 1.02. I think Zipi is refering Buran 2K as 2.01

I am sorry, but 2K is 1.02 and 2.01 is 3K, so I have answered to what I had seen.

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #761 on: 01/14/2010 05:08 pm »
Sorry but the pictures you showed are of Buran 1.02. I think Zipi is refering Buran 2K as 2.01

I am sorry, but 2K is 1.02 and 2.01 is 3K, so I have answered to what I had seen.

My mistake :(. You are right 2K is Buran 1.02. I should have checked before :)
« Last Edit: 01/14/2010 05:11 pm by buran.fr »

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #762 on: 01/14/2010 05:24 pm »

I saw only interior photos made by Vadim Lukashevich on January 31, 2007. They are here. But what differences do you want to see since 2004? There are no differences. 2K is poor and dusty bird. She belongs to Kazakhstan, which do not know what to do with her. Spaceship's internal parts is removed with vandalism, cables are cut, tiles are damaged. Gates of building, where she is, can not be opened. 2K with her sister 4MT are there for ever. Photos of 4MT (also from that date) can be seen here.

Thanks Anik, this 1.02 is what I was looking for. And I'm willing to see how much dustier that poor bird is nowadays 2010 compared to 2004 and is she still mainly in "one piece".

BTW: Are those 2004 dusty photos at some other web site than in this thread? I tried to crawl through buran.ru and buran.fr, but couldn't find them...
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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #763 on: 01/14/2010 06:05 pm »
Are those 2004 dusty photos at some other web site than in this thread?

That photo was from Russian Novosti kosmonavtiki magazine, where small article about all Buran birds at Baikonur were published. I can post link to it, because now it is on-line. In 2005 I have scanned this photo from magazine.

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #764 on: 01/14/2010 10:31 pm »
Apologies if this has been asked before.

What did the Soviets plan to do with Soyuz once Buran was operational?
Funny that they didn't consider a 'gap' as being feasible...

Soyuz was to serve along side Buran as an escape pod for stations and eventually replaced with Zarya not to be confused with the ISS segment of the same name.
http://www.astronautix.com/craft/zarya.htm

 I'm surprise no private groups have not tried to purchase one of the Buran's as an opportunity to study a reusable space vehicle.

After learning what they could from it a Buran Shuttle would make a fine lawn ornament.


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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #765 on: 01/15/2010 06:01 pm »
Was the Buran project more expansive that Project Apollo?
Is true or is a myte that damaged seriously the soviet economy?

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #766 on: 01/15/2010 06:39 pm »
Was the Buran project more expansive that Project Apollo?
Is true or is a myte that damaged seriously the soviet economy?
That is a myth Apollo was by a very large margin the most expensive space project in history.
The most expensive Soviet space program was the N1 and Soyuz and their R&D budget was less then 1/3 that of project Apollo.
Buran was not responsible for the collapse of the Soviet Union things like the Typhoon class sub program were much more expensive.
« Last Edit: 01/15/2010 06:41 pm by Patchouli »

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #767 on: 01/22/2010 06:13 pm »
Whats the item on the tank ahead of the orbiter?

I am sorry for delay with answer for four years, but now I know that it is instrument of direction orientation of Energiya rocket. :)

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #768 on: 01/22/2010 07:01 pm »
You mean to say the heads-up display is mounted >outside< the spacecraft?????

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #769 on: 01/22/2010 07:35 pm »
Hmm... I hope you're not serious!?..  anik is saying it is for the control of the Energiya NOT the Buran (and anyway what use is a heads-up for an unmanned spacecraft? ;) )

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #770 on: 01/22/2010 11:00 pm »
Yes those are the gyroscopes of the rocket, the 3 whites blocks are removed seconds before launch.
« Last Edit: 01/22/2010 11:02 pm by buran.fr »

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #771 on: 04/15/2010 12:21 pm »


Hopefully this is enough Buran related to be in a this thread... I really don't know what they are talking about since I don't understand russian language. Maybe someone does subtitles for this video?
« Last Edit: 04/15/2010 12:38 pm by Zipi »
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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #772 on: 04/15/2010 03:06 pm »
Its the story of BOR/Spiral, Buran is just shown for contrast. The show is "General of Star Wars" , other parts are on ytube.

EDIT: actually, scratch that. 3rd part talks about how Buran came about as well, and how the main constructor was told by the politicians to forget about BOR, because "our bird must look at least as good or better than Americans".
« Last Edit: 04/15/2010 03:25 pm by savuporo »
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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #773 on: 06/17/2010 07:23 pm »
Found randomly on the Net : an amazing picture of Buran 4MT in the 112A area of Baikonur cosmodrome.

http://www.mai6.ru/contents/gallery/displayimage.php?album=29&pos=18

Update : this is orbiter 7M, not 4MT.
« Last Edit: 06/18/2010 12:49 pm by Nicolas PILLET »
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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #774 on: 06/17/2010 07:44 pm »
Found randomly on the Net : an amazing picture of Buran 4MT in the 112A area of Baikonur cosmodrome.

http://www.mai6.ru/contents/gallery/displayimage.php?album=29&pos=18

holy crap, somebody got lucky ! I asked my buttoff when I was there and couldn't get access
That's a very elusive shot, from apparently added 7th of April 2009 but i'm trying to work out the real date.

in any case, cleanup on isle 5 a shame is bombarded with guano   

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #775 on: 06/17/2010 07:55 pm »
Found randomly on the Net : an amazing picture of Buran 4MT in the 112A area of Baikonur cosmodrome.

http://www.mai6.ru/contents/gallery/displayimage.php?album=29&pos=18

holy crap, somebody got lucky ! I asked my buttoff when I was there and couldn't get access
That's a very elusive shot, from apparently added 7th of April 2009 but i'm trying to work out the real date.

in any case, cleanup on isle 5 a shame is bombarded with guano   
Are you sure it's MT?  The only pictures of MT I've seen did not have black around the nose area save for the tip.
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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #776 on: 06/17/2010 08:22 pm »
Are you sure it's MT?  The only pictures of MT I've seen did not have black around the nose area save for the tip.

It's what Anik said in the page 3 of this thread...
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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #777 on: 06/17/2010 10:44 pm »
Are you sure it's MT?  The only pictures of MT I've seen did not have black around the nose area save for the tip.

It's what Anik said in the page 3 of this thread...
The picture on page 5 of 4MT matches the color-schemes I've seen before.  This one does not, is all I am saying.
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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #778 on: 06/18/2010 06:54 am »
     That sure looks like a flight-rated orbiter to me, judging from the TPS; looks nothing like MT.  Must be OK 1.02 Burya at long last.

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #779 on: 06/18/2010 08:39 am »
Ok, I did some checking, below is what should be the correct names (the 4MT above is wrong, the real 4M has been refurbished and is now outside the baikonur museum there days)

In the first picture (posted by anik many pages back) the one on the bottom is 2k and the one on top is 7M (in line with the post by anik on page 5)

looking at the first picture you can see that the one in the second image is the same as the top one on the first picture.
« Last Edit: 06/18/2010 08:50 am by Jester »

 

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