So the original movie was OK-ish until the hokey earth language computer virus ( was it in C++ or Fortran? Mac or PC?) just happens to be compatible with the alien server & then saves the day by rendering all their defenses meaningless. So I'm speculating what is the latest fad idea that the writers of this inane script will use to defeat an enemy that has planetary sized invasion craft setting down on the surface of our planet? 1. Secret DARPA labs unleash the singularity and we surpass them.2. Mark Zuckerberg invents ESP technology that 9 billion Facebook users download into their cortex, and we overwhelm their minds with comments on last nights "The Worlds got talent" competition3. Bob Zubrin pilots an advanced fighter craft from the MARS contingent of the Earth Defense Force into the Alien craft at relativistic speeds. ( powered by a Gigawatt alien generator harnessed to a VASIMR rocket ) 4. President Trump sells them Uranus on a 1,000,000 yr lease with no immediate downpayment
Quote from: Stan-1967 on 12/16/2015 09:06 pmSo the original movie was OK-ish until the hokey earth language computer virus ( was it in C++ or Fortran? Mac or PC?) just happens to be compatible with the alien server & then saves the day by rendering all their defenses meaningless. So I'm speculating what is the latest fad idea that the writers of this inane script will use to defeat an enemy that has planetary sized invasion craft setting down on the surface of our planet? 1. Secret DARPA labs unleash the singularity and we surpass them.2. Mark Zuckerberg invents ESP technology that 9 billion Facebook users download into their cortex, and we overwhelm their minds with comments on last nights "The Worlds got talent" competition3. Bob Zubrin pilots an advanced fighter craft from the MARS contingent of the Earth Defense Force into the Alien craft at relativistic speeds. ( powered by a Gigawatt alien generator harnessed to a VASIMR rocket ) 4. President Trump sells them Uranus on a 1,000,000 yr lease with no immediate downpayment5. They hack the aliens wifi.
So the original movie was OK-ish until the hokey earth language computer virus ( was it in C++ or Fortran? Mac or PC?) just happens to be compatible with the alien server & then saves the day by rendering all their defenses meaningless.
Quote from: Stan-1967 on 12/16/2015 09:06 pmSo the original movie was OK-ish until the hokey earth language computer virus ( was it in C++ or Fortran? Mac or PC?) just happens to be compatible with the alien server & then saves the day by rendering all their defenses meaningless. You can cross-compile against the alien platform on our computer, if you know their computer architecture. It's no different from how we can compile an iphone app on Mac, even though Mac and iphone uses different processor architectures. The high level languages (C++ or Fortran) doesn't matter much in this case, it's the compiler that does the magic.
I am looking forward to this film. I long theorized the sequel would be named "Thanksgiving: the Invasion" and that we would face a ground invasion and defeat them for Thanksgiving.
From a musician perspective, these movies are getting worst and worst. It is just some rhythm adjusted to each scene, no progression, no melody. Where is John Williams?
A small tactical nuke destroying the mothership that was supposedly 1/4 the size of the moon. What type of wimpy ships do these aliens build? Heck, even Battlestar Galactica can withstand multiple nuke strikes from the Cylons. What is with these ID4 aliens? How have they mastered interstellar flight, but keep building structures with single point catastrophic failure modes?
There could be more films in the franchise.http://www.slashfilm.com/independence-day-sequels/
Alcoholic ex Vietnam pilot recruited out of refugee camp to fly an F-18 straight up the nearly undefended single point of catastrophic failure weapons system/power source at terminate his flight in a near tail slide stall condition while flipping off the aliens and getting revenge for his past uhmmm.....alien violations
I hope the Earth is totally destroyed, so that they can't make a third film. The first one made Gravity seem realistic!
@The Amazing Catstronaut,I'm just thinking how John Williams' Arrival at the Island is an absolute and essential part of the big reveal of the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park to the point where music like it became essentially identified with dinosaurs in movies.
Quote from: IRobot on 04/22/2016 06:45 pmFrom a musician perspective, these movies are getting worst and worst. It is just some rhythm adjusted to each scene, no progression, no melody. Where is John Williams?As another musician, I can assure you that's always how it's been in hollywood movies. Its been formulaic ever since the days of silent movies, when the formula was necessary to make the plot comprehensible. Movie soundtracks are divided between supposedly "epic", big string ostinato laden monstrosities, marches, tremolo strings and brass (JW loves that), choral music for moments of intense drama. Crucially music in film is not meant to be ostentatious when it's in support of the art, it's meant to substantiate a sense of scene. That's why any cold war movie will use neoclassical ballet or Russian folk to symbolise Russians, Sci fi movies will employ the dominant electronic styles of the time the movie is produced, feel good dance movies will usually emulate or employ the music of prevailing pop artists.Then there's that one-shot piano note you heard at the beginning of the Star Wars seven trailer. Harmony is often relatively consistent, chords play an important role at making panning shots look awesome instead of some tawdry drone or helicopter footage.As for John williams - he made a frickin' two note motif famous. Film music is only exceptional artistry in its context most of the time.That said, there are forever exceptions to the rule. Arthouse movies will have different sounds, and usually the further you stray from popcorn movies the closer you will get to a sound which doesn't follow the established conventions of cinema music. It's there to suck you in - it's not there to make you care about the music. The music is a pillar that props the atmosphere up - but you don't go to the Parthenon just to stare at one pillar.Remember, you're not necessarily composing when you write film music. You're illustrating. That's a profession with even more skill requirements than pure composition in of itself.
Iconic soundtracks are hard to come by and tough to write - they need to perfectly summarise the scene, not just give a general impression of the atmosphere.
June 24th, isn't that the new Independence Day for the UK?
Quote from: pippin on 04/22/2016 10:15 pmJune 24th, isn't that the new Independence Day for the UK?Nailed it.
I thought it was okay. It suffers from not having the charismatic Will Smith character (his character's son is amazingly bland), but benefits by not having the obnoxious Randy Quaid character. Many other characters return, some kids now adults. Too many loopy coincidences but nothing as preposterous as uploading a virus to defeat an alien computer system the first time around... this time, they actually have to outsmart the aliens... and do. There's a germ of a good idea here: mankind united in the wake of the 1996 alien invasion and reverse-engineered alien tech to build its defenses. In the hands of a better writer, this could really have been something. Instead, it's just a popcorn movie. A potentially interesting sequel is set up, but unless this movie does much better overseas than it seems to be doing in the US, that sequel's not going to happen.