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Offline dany1980

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found a spaceship part -> Soyuz VS13/FOC-M4
« on: 04/22/2016 02:38 am »
I found a spaceship part on a beach,
looks like a soyuz, i already wrote to the russian agency,
do you know if i should get some prize, should i sell the alloy, or should i sell it to somebody that want collect it?

Thanks :)
« Last Edit: 04/22/2016 04:30 pm by Jester »

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Re: found a spaceship part
« Reply #1 on: 04/22/2016 02:42 am »
Do any parts of Soyuz actually go far enough downrange to impact the ocean? Which coast of Mexico is this on (I'm assuming that's where you found it, given that's your listed location)? If it's the west coast, it's likely a rocket that launched southward from Vandenberg, which would mean perhaps an Atlas V, Delta IV, or Falcon 9. If the east coast, I'm not sure. It could be Soyuz if it's on the east coast, actually, from an ESA-launched Soyuz out of Kourou, but that would be quite a journey for it to end up in Mexico.
« Last Edit: 04/22/2016 02:47 am by NovaSilisko »

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Re: found a spaceship part
« Reply #2 on: 04/22/2016 02:46 am »
Hmm...chances are that this is part of a fairing from a CSG Soyuz launch. In fact from the serial number provided it looks like it's from this one.
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Re: found a spaceship part
« Reply #3 on: 04/22/2016 03:19 am »
Hmm...chances are that this is part of a fairing from a CSG Soyuz launch. In fact from the serial number provided it looks like it's from this one.
Hmm...chances are that this is part of a fairing from a CSG Soyuz launch. In fact from the serial number provided it looks like it's from this one.
Definitely is from an ST version. I gave it to Stan to hunt down the confirmation as its shown as originally ordered for a non ST CSG launch but later shipped to CSG.
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Re: found a spaceship part
« Reply #4 on: 04/22/2016 03:30 am »
So, how would a fairing from a rocket launched from Kourou end up on a beach in Mexico?

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Re: found a spaceship part
« Reply #5 on: 04/22/2016 03:33 am »
So, how would a fairing from a rocket launched from Kourou end up on a beach in Mexico?

Ocean current and waves.

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Re: found a spaceship part
« Reply #6 on: 04/22/2016 05:32 am »
I found a spaceship part on a beach,
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Re: found a spaceship part
« Reply #7 on: 04/22/2016 06:16 am »
Sell it on eBay.

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Re: found a spaceship part
« Reply #8 on: 04/22/2016 06:27 am »
Check out a map of ocean currents and you can see right away how a Soyuz fairing could get to the coast of Mexico after a launch from Kourou. It's easier than I thought.
« Last Edit: 04/22/2016 06:29 am by NovaSilisko »

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Re: found a spaceship part
« Reply #9 on: 04/22/2016 04:03 pm »
I found a spaceship part on a beach,
looks like a soyuz, i already wrote to the russian agency,
do you know if i should get some prize, should i sell the alloy, or should i sell it to somebody that want collect it?

Thanks :)

That looks like our fairing from VS13/FOC-M4, can you post a better picture of the serial ?

Thanks
« Last Edit: 04/22/2016 04:17 pm by Jester »

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Re: found a spaceship part
« Reply #10 on: 04/22/2016 04:14 pm »
I found a spaceship part on a beach,
looks like a soyuz, i already wrote to the russian agency,
do you know if i should get some prize, should i sell the alloy, or should i sell it to somebody that want collect it?

Thanks :)

That looks like our fairing, can you post a better picture of the serial ?

Thanks
numbering on the picture on the beach is ..KC 1000-0... and ...15000-23 which fits your pictures
« Last Edit: 04/22/2016 04:25 pm by russianhalo117 »

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Re: found a spaceship part
« Reply #11 on: 04/22/2016 04:33 pm »
I found a spaceship part on a beach,
looks like a soyuz, i already wrote to the russian agency,
do you know if i should get some prize, should i sell the alloy, or should i sell it to somebody that want collect it?

Thanks :)
the fairing is by international space law the sole property of the nation that manufactured it, in this case it was made in Russia and launched by the Russian team at CSG.

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Re: found a spaceship part -> Soyuz VS13/FOC-M4
« Reply #12 on: 04/22/2016 06:05 pm »
Hi,

yes it's for sure the VS13/FOC-M4,
the pictures you send correspond to the codes.

The code is N G15000-023

Ok It's russian, is there any prize to give it back to Russia?

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Re: found a spaceship part -> Soyuz VS13/FOC-M4
« Reply #13 on: 04/22/2016 06:16 pm »
Hi,

yes it's for sure the VS13/FOC-M4,
the pictures you send correspond to the codes.

The code is N G15000-023

Ok It's russian, is there any prize to give it back to Russia?
PM Jester above and he should be able to get you in touch with someone or tell you what you need to do. In terms of if there is a prize I'm not aware of any prizes/payout unless you were injured by the hardware. It is international law that you notify your government and law enforcement and give them the location so they can hand it over to Russia. Your authorities might be able to tell you if you are eligible for a payout since it washed up on the Mexican shoreline.

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Re: found a spaceship part -> Soyuz VS13/FOC-M4
« Reply #14 on: 04/22/2016 10:00 pm »
Here the pictures of some more details!

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Re: found a spaceship part -> Soyuz VS13/FOC-M4
« Reply #15 on: 04/23/2016 12:02 am »
En que parte de Mexico es el objecto?

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Re: found a spaceship part -> Soyuz VS13/FOC-M4
« Reply #16 on: 04/23/2016 01:01 pm »
The fairings of Soyuz launched form France Guiana are made in Europe if I'm not mistaken.
Ariane space reports it is derived from Ariane 4, here (click on + at the top of the fairing)

I think Arianespace is responsible for cleaning it up, they launched it.

@Jester, were those images snapshots from an esa video?
In this one are some nice shots of the fairing:


And this one shows fairings ...22.
« Last Edit: 04/23/2016 01:40 pm by Rik ISS-fan »

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Re: found a spaceship part -> Soyuz VS13/FOC-M4
« Reply #17 on: 04/24/2016 03:52 am »
The fairings of Soyuz launched form France Guiana are made in Europe if I'm not mistaken.
Ariane space reports it is derived from Ariane 4, here (click on + at the top of the fairing)

I think Arianespace is responsible for cleaning it up, they launched it.

@Jester, were those images snapshots from an esa video?
In this one are some nice shots of the fairing:


And this one shows fairings ...22.

so why does fairings ship from RKTs Progresses factory where its other fairings are made?? I only recall the 81KC and 220KC fairings have only RUAG Ariane 4 design heritage and Russia has license to manufacture these fairing.

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Re: found a spaceship part -> Soyuz VS13/FOC-M4
« Reply #18 on: 04/24/2016 12:35 pm »
AFAIK the fairing is russian, RUAG are involved in our launches because they are responsible for our dispenser

also the RUAG team takes care of part of the fairing work as a sub-co to Arianespace (together with the russians)

I'm currently waiting a reply as what to do with the fairing piece.
« Last Edit: 04/24/2016 12:37 pm by Jester »

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Re: found a spaceship part -> Soyuz VS13/FOC-M4
« Reply #19 on: 04/25/2016 12:53 am »
Maybe we are seeing the world's first reusable fairing.

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