1)Russians budget in US$ compared to Nasa
I'll never forget his comments as long as I live. We hardly ever get to hear directly from the NASA administrator. His comments were an insult to every dedicated professional standing there.
Russia is now an oil state. Other oil states like Saudi Arabia have lots of money.
Quote from: BestRed1 on 08/30/2009 03:45 amI'll never forget his comments as long as I live. We hardly ever get to hear directly from the NASA administrator. His comments were an insult to every dedicated professional standing there.This sort of statement would be more convincing with a transcript or recording.
Quote from: hop on 08/30/2009 04:16 amQuote from: BestRed1 on 08/30/2009 03:45 amI'll never forget his comments as long as I live. We hardly ever get to hear directly from the NASA administrator. His comments were an insult to every dedicated professional standing there.This sort of statement would be more convincing with a transcript or recording.Yes, BestRed1, can you provide or point us to a record of what he did say? So far all I have seen are summaries or very short quotes.
About six of us stood there chatting about how sad it was that a former Marine General would tell American workers, whom are all about to be laid off, that he thought it was great how we were providing funding to the Russians.Sorry, I don’t know how to interpret those comments any better.
Quote from: BestRed1 on 08/30/2009 01:45 pmAbout six of us stood there chatting about how sad it was that a former Marine General would tell American workers, whom are all about to be laid off, that he thought it was great how we were providing funding to the Russians.Sorry, I don’t know how to interpret those comments any better. I doubt he said "I am so glad I are firing you guys and handing the money to the Russians, god I love the Russians. But I especially love rubbing your faces in this, I really do"Hopefully someone sticks a post it note on his door, so on Monday he can clarify his position. Some how I think if you caught him at the water cooler, he would say the way you took it is by NO stretch what he meant.
Cool down. He's just being politically inept. Just like Admiral Truly was. What I feared of his appointment. Perhaps he'll learn fast.My guess is that he thinks he's being inspirational by thinking of partnership to lower some costs to afford others at MAF, but because he didn't lead with that, he gave a different impression. It's hard to see how he could do that, given all that's up in the air at the moment, so my guess again is he feels embarrassed, wishing to be inspiring, and simply talked way out in front of his headlights than he should have (same again with Truly).There's this blurryness of vision that afflicts many who rise to the top - they think in terms of generalities - in this case, that outsourcing parts of the space program to Russia, ..., [perhaps even China?] is good, because then we may do other things as well that aren't outsourced.They forget who's sitting right in front of them, what they want/need to hear, and how they feel about it. It's so horrible when it happens, as it takes the enthusiasm of the visit and shoves it in like a knife to the gut.
Quote from: BestRed1 on 08/30/2009 04:47 pmVery well stated nooneofconsequence. I hope its not over. I'm anxiously awaiting what comes from the Augustine Commission. More so, how the politicians will respond to the recommendations.
Very well stated nooneofconsequence. I hope its not over. I'm anxiously awaiting what comes from the Augustine Commission. More so, how the politicians will respond to the recommendations.
Hard to tell. A lot of this is long overdue, due to the past two incompetent administrators (we wanted to believe they weren't, but they were in different ways).Here's the reality - we can't afford much more than a Soyuz program, operations costs are close to 2x to high on labor, and five plus firms with operations in Alabama, Louisiana, Utah, and California will inherit a follow on project that's probably a quarter of what Shuttle was. MAF is essential for this, even if HQ isn't mindful of this, most everyone else is.
Well..................... NASA Administrator Bolden is in love with the Russian's so this shouldn't be a shock to anyone! Just a week ago he told the employees at the NASA Michoud Assembly Facility that he thought it was great that we were paying our Russian partners to keep our space station going after the Shuttle dies. You could have heard a pin drop in the place. Laying off American space workers while paying hostage money to the Russians to keep our station alive, wow, what a great America we live in today!WAKE UP PEOPLE! The Russians DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!It won't be a parternship, we'll pay for it all or at least 95% of it.