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Re: Armadillo Aerospace Update Thread
« Reply #320 on: 08/12/2012 08:36 am »
Thanks zt. Looks like some good stuff in there.  ;D

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Re: Armadillo Aerospace Update Thread
« Reply #321 on: 08/12/2012 03:16 pm »
[blink] Does "accent" have a meaning I'm not familiar with in this context, or did they mean "ascent"?

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Re: Armadillo Aerospace Update Thread
« Reply #322 on: 08/21/2012 02:39 am »
works for me

I notice the Armadillo rocket fuel tanks were vertically stacked rather than using four tanks around the engine as in the Morpheus.

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Re: Armadillo Aerospace Update Thread
« Reply #323 on: 08/21/2012 02:56 am »
works for me

I notice the Armadillo rocket fuel tanks were vertically stacked rather than using four tanks around the engine as in the Morpheus.

Yeah, their earlier Quad vehicles had a similar layout to Morpheus (and the Lunar Module Descent Stage), but John Carmack wasn't really a fan of that orientation after all the issues they ran into, and so their newer vehicles all have vertically stacked tanks. IIRC, I remember John saying (at Space Access most likely) something about trying to talk the Project M guys out of the Quad architecture, but failing.

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Re: Armadillo Aerospace Update Thread
« Reply #324 on: 08/21/2012 03:48 am »

Yeah, their earlier Quad vehicles had a similar layout to Morpheus (and the Lunar Module Descent Stage), but John Carmack wasn't really a fan of that orientation after all the issues they ran into, and so their newer vehicles all have vertically stacked tanks. IIRC, I remember John saying (at Space Access most likely) something about trying to talk the Project M guys out of the Quad architecture, but failing.

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The Project M white paper shows Robonaut exiting the lander from the side.  If the tanks are stacked then the cargo will either have to climb down a ladder or use a tall ramp.
http://robonaut.jsc.nasa.gov/future/whitepaper/default.asp

Project Morpheus could still change lander design.

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Re: Armadillo Aerospace Update Thread
« Reply #325 on: 08/21/2012 10:30 pm »

Yeah, their earlier Quad vehicles had a similar layout to Morpheus (and the Lunar Module Descent Stage), but John Carmack wasn't really a fan of that orientation after all the issues they ran into, and so their newer vehicles all have vertically stacked tanks. IIRC, I remember John saying (at Space Access most likely) something about trying to talk the Project M guys out of the Quad architecture, but failing.

~Jon

The Project M white paper shows Robonaut exiting the lander from the side.  If the tanks are stacked then the cargo will either have to climb down a ladder or use a tall ramp.
http://robonaut.jsc.nasa.gov/future/whitepaper/default.asp

Project Morpheus could still change lander design.

I was suggesting something more Xeus/DTAL-esque.

~Jon

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Re: Armadillo Aerospace Update Thread
« Reply #326 on: 08/22/2012 12:05 am »

Yeah, their earlier Quad vehicles had a similar layout to Morpheus (and the Lunar Module Descent Stage), but John Carmack wasn't really a fan of that orientation after all the issues they ran into, and so their newer vehicles all have vertically stacked tanks. IIRC, I remember John saying (at Space Access most likely) something about trying to talk the Project M guys out of the Quad architecture, but failing.

~Jon

The Project M white paper shows Robonaut exiting the lander from the side.  If the tanks are stacked then the cargo will either have to climb down a ladder or use a tall ramp.
http://robonaut.jsc.nasa.gov/future/whitepaper/default.asp

Project Morpheus could still change lander design.

I was suggesting something more Xeus/DTAL-esque.

~Jon

Half tonne to 14 tonne payload.  That is an order of magnitude bigger.  A Moon business is likely to find having both small + cheap and a large + expensive landers useful.

The large lander could have 4 or 5 (or 9) engines.  Or develop a big engine.  Something cheaper than the RL-10 that burns a space storable fuel.

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Re: Armadillo Aerospace Update Thread
« Reply #327 on: 08/22/2012 02:11 pm »
I said Xeux/DTAL-esque. You can do horizontal landers like that with non-Centaur-derived main propulsion. But this is getting far afield for an AA thread.

I'm looking forward to seeing how Stig-B does with its flight (notionally set for next month).

~Jon
« Last Edit: 08/22/2012 02:45 pm by jongoff »

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Re: Armadillo Aerospace Update Thread
« Reply #328 on: 09/03/2012 06:15 pm »
https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/242668869586673666/photo/1

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Re: Armadillo Aerospace Update Thread
« Reply #329 on: 09/03/2012 09:31 pm »
I showed that to my boys, and my 7 year old said that he wanted the next ride. :-)

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Re: Armadillo Aerospace Update Thread
« Reply #330 on: 09/04/2012 02:08 am »
I showed that to my boys, and my 7 year old said that he wanted the next ride. :-)
Hope they sort out their recovery system unless there's some hidden agenda here :)
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Re: Armadillo Aerospace Update Thread
« Reply #331 on: 09/04/2012 04:47 pm »
I showed that to my boys, and my 7 year old said that he wanted the next ride. :-)
Hope they sort out their recovery system unless there's some hidden agenda here :)

Well, I said he wanted to go, I didn't say that *I* wanted him to go.

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Re: Armadillo Aerospace Update Thread
« Reply #332 on: 09/05/2012 11:03 pm »
I hope thats a sign of them getting ready. When they got the launch license, the press release said:
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Armadillo is planning the first launch of the STIG-B the weekend of August 25-26 at Spaceport America in New Mexico, with of goal of reaching an altitude of 100 kilometers.
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Re: Armadillo Aerospace Update Thread
« Reply #333 on: 09/07/2012 07:20 pm »
New Scientist has the 100 km launch of Stig tomorrow Saturday September 8th, 2012.
http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2012/09/armadillo-aerospace-prepares-f.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news

The company also announced that they are working on a manned 8 engined version called Black Armadillo.
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Re: Armadillo Aerospace Update Thread
« Reply #334 on: 09/10/2012 03:44 pm »
(tumbleweed)

anyone see launch reported ?
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Re: Armadillo Aerospace Update Thread
« Reply #335 on: 09/10/2012 03:55 pm »
"Update, 10 September 2012: Armadillo Aerospace has not yet launched Stig into space. New Space Watch reports that the planned launch is now expected on 22 or 23 September."

http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2012/09/armadillo-aerospace-prepares-f.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news

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Re: Armadillo Aerospace Update Thread
« Reply #336 on: 09/10/2012 08:10 pm »
And the NewSpace Watch report is that the move is "due to range issues."  Which I'll admit surprises me a bit, since there's not much flying out of there, but on the other hand the spaceport doesn't have much experience yet either.

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Re: Armadillo Aerospace Update Thread
« Reply #337 on: 09/10/2012 09:03 pm »
Not much flies, but it does. A week ago a TFR popped up, with purpose marked as "Space Launch". Its location was not in Spaceport America though. So White Sands people keep busy and sometimes even go outside of their own restricted airspace.

Edit: Attaching map. Arrow with "SA" is location of Spaceport America.
« Last Edit: 09/10/2012 09:12 pm by zaitcev »

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Re: Armadillo Aerospace Update Thread
« Reply #338 on: 09/26/2012 07:15 pm »
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=21895.msg958139#msg958139

From the Spaceport America thread, there is an update showing that Armadillo's STIG-B will launch in early October.  It says it's a larger, higher performing variant of STIG-A.  The launch will be licensed by the FAA.

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Re: Armadillo Aerospace Update Thread
« Reply #339 on: 10/03/2012 12:09 am »
Ben Brockert posted this picture on twitter.

http://twitpic.com/b0aw10

Human spaceflight is basically just LARPing now.

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