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There are two types of people.
There are two types of people. Those that design launch vehicles and tell you what you cant have as payload. Then there are those who design payloads, and ask for someone to go build a launch vehicle for it.The Project Thok concept appears to designed by someone who is a payloads centric person.../snip..To me, the LEM looks like something that Wile E Coyote would design because it is a bunch of thin sheets and tubes strapped to a bunch of explosives.
Quote from: RigelFive on 01/24/2013 08:19 amThere are two types of people. No. Three types. Those who can count, and those who can't.
Yes. That is good. Remove all the science equipment from the LEM. Correct answer.Now that you have added mass for fuel. Have you included changes with the control systems, structure and/or propulsion systems?This vehicle has new dynamics which affect the attitude and primary thrust control. The structure has to support the potential to land harder, and the propulsion systems may need more thrust. Since you ditched the science systems, the only unintended consequences may be that you need less communications and less power. You probably need a will needa new simulator to train astronauts.
Are there any ITAR adepts out there who could comment on whether top-level TPMs for other civilian launch vehicles have fallen under ITAR?ITAR is applicable to any launch vehicleThe question has to do with performance parameters rather than specific vehicles. However, is information about the thrust, Isp, mass to orbit etc figures for Pegasus, Delta IV, Atlas V, Falcon prohibited from public disclosure under ITAR?
Quote from: JohnFornaro on 01/24/2013 01:06 pmQuote from: RigelFive on 01/24/2013 08:19 amThere are two types of people. No. Three types. Those who can count, and those who can't.Congress is mostly composed of the latter.
New ITAR rules posted up on other thread (add this to list of 11+ reasons we're not going back to the moon). Other thread contributors believe ITAR restrictions belong to 'any' launch vehicle.... Likely this includes even Project Thok.
Congress is definitely in that third group.
A tool is only as good as the skill of the craftsman using it.
Thanks for the links, Rigel, and thanks for the site/blog, Quantum. Don't think I'll be too concerned with ITAR, I'll just keep a few things a bit more hush-hush. Y'all can keep a secret, right? Quote from: QuantumG on 01/28/2013 07:17 amA tool is only as good as the skill of the craftsman using it.Very, very true.EDIT: I think I'll slow down on new installments until I have something lengthy to discuss/change regarding to Apex, Artemis, or Phoenix.