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Offline ChrisGebhardt

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Research question
« on: 10/12/2017 11:33 pm »
The below is an excerpt from an email sent around to the Embry Riddle's librarians this afternoon.  One of the librarians needs to give a talk Tuesday for a professor based - in part - on the abstract attached below.  They don't know and can't find what "Abel Paster" is.

Anyone here able to help out with what this means?  Their collective thought is that it's just the name of the first Consus storage platform -- like saying Shuttle 1 is "Enterprise".  But they can't find confirmation of this.

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CONSUS LLC
ABSTRACT: Consus LLC is a orbital storage provider operating a LEO storage station, commercially available to public and private users wanting to store payloads or conduct activities in space. Consus will launch an orbiting storage station hosting client payloads on tenancy agreement. The value proposition lies in a range of storage modules to house client payloads that otherwise would need their own space bus. The need for “storage only” arises out of the high cost associated with launching individual payloads and operating separate satellites; the need is met with cost savings from launching with Consus and leasing space on a storage station. The default structural attributes feature complete climate control, vehicle docking, RCS and/or propulsion systems for orientation and/or delivery to particular local location upon material request.   Consus 1 is Abel Pastor, and as demand increases more storage stations will be deployed to make up the Consus Constellation. Cost and time of development quotes will be announced in further operations and system reviews.
« Last Edit: 10/12/2017 11:37 pm by ChrisGebhardt »

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Re: Research question
« Reply #1 on: 10/13/2017 01:56 pm »
Sounds like a space station for robotic payloads.  When I google "Abel Pastor," I get some Facebook entries and a mugshot for some poor guy who was arrested in Dade County, Florida in July.  I agree that it seems to be the name of the first station.

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Re: Research question
« Reply #2 on: 10/13/2017 02:02 pm »
Suggest librarian goes back and asks the "Professor" for whom he/she is giving talk for ?

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Re: Research question
« Reply #3 on: 10/14/2017 06:55 am »
Able Pastor, perhaps an ecunemical bent to the naming scheme?

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Re: Research question
« Reply #4 on: 10/15/2017 05:10 pm »
But it's "Abel," not "Able."  Between that and "Pastor" instead of "Paster," it seems a name designed to be miscommunicated!

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Re: Research question
« Reply #5 on: 10/15/2017 10:09 pm »

Abel the shepherd? (Abel Pastor in Spanish).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cain_and_Abel

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Re: Research question
« Reply #6 on: 10/15/2017 11:06 pm »
This makes no sense on a number of different levels. There's no need for "storage" of systems in space: indeed, there's lots of financial reasons not to incur the launch costs until you're ready to operate and start generating revenue. Nobody would talk about "climate control" in space - it's thermal control, since there's no "climate", and thermal control is integral with the design of an individual system and would have to be designed to be compatible with the "storage" platform. Launching to a single storage facility would restrict you to nearby orbits without highly capable space tugs with lots of propellant, and even then it would be prohibitively expensive to make major changes in orbital inclination. Librarians in universities don't get tasked with "giving a talk for a professor" - that's what grad students are for! Librarians are not experts in engineering domains, but in cataloging, archiving, and searching. They might help you find something obscure, but they're not going to come teach your class for you (at least, not at any university I've even been involved with). With a few minutes of on-line searching there's nothing remotely like "Consus LLC" as an on-orbit entity for anything - which doesn't prove anything, but usually even at a very early point in a start-up they establish a significant web presence.

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Re: Research question
« Reply #7 on: 10/18/2017 05:01 am »
Assuming someone didn't get punked by a fake paper or some crap MBA practice business plan (the use of the word "abstract" without being a proper academic paper abstract being fishy here)... Maybe this is some student AIAA competition paper that got accidentally recycled (which would fit the unknown name being fake, but such papers regularly get posted on the internet so no google hits is odd...)


This sounds somewhat like a space coral/hosted payload configuration, but most space coral proposals are GEO based, not LEO.

One possible LEO configuration I could see is some sort of market specific SSO space corral setup (multiple users desire similar observation characteristics for specific surface points). However that doesn't jive with the storage and deployment commentary.

That would suggest some sort of megaconstellation on-orbit spares storage depot/tug. Assuming you could wait out the precession time to swap planes, having "cold" on-orbit spares that have already been checked out by ground control awaiting deployment might be attractive. But that pushes against megaconstellations building their own on-orbit spare storage facilities, as well as responsive smallsat launchers launching ground spares directly to desired orbital planes faster than a depot tug could precess to.

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Re: Research question
« Reply #8 on: 10/23/2017 04:30 am »
If you copy and paste that entire block of text provided into the google search bar, the first return is this:

http://commons.erau.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1096&context=publication

which is from the same university and in the right area.

It might be worth exploring around some of the other search returns to see if something comes together.

It’s a useful technique sometimes to google large blocks of text rather than trying to isolate search terms.
« Last Edit: 10/23/2017 04:34 am by Ludus »

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