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Re: Elon Musk Presentation, IAC 2017 - Sep. 29, 2017 (0430 UTC)
« Reply #80 on: 09/29/2017 05:13 am »
MARS:

Being a multi-planet species beats the hell out of being a single planet species.

Mars plan is same as before.

Refuel in Earth orbit.  Go to Mars.  Land.  Produce fuel on Mars from CO2 and H2O to make Methane and Ox prop.

Long term... this fuel production can be done on Earth.

Use solar power to extract CO2 from the air.  Same thing we do on Mars we can do on Mars.

Need to build prop depot on Mars.  Because Mars has lower gravity, you can go from surface of Mars with 20-50t payload all the way back to Earth.

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Re: Elon Musk Presentation, IAC 2017 - Sep. 29, 2017 (0430 UTC)
« Reply #81 on: 09/29/2017 05:15 am »
Mars atmospheric entry will have ablative element to heat shield.  But heat shield will be multi-use.  Then supersonic retro propulsion... and landing.

Over 99% of energy removed by Mars' atmosphere during entry.

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Re: Elon Musk Presentation, IAC 2017 - Sep. 29, 2017 (0430 UTC)
« Reply #82 on: 09/29/2017 05:15 am »
BFR cargo missions begin in 2022 (not a typo, but Musk admits it's aspirational).

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Re: Elon Musk Presentation, IAC 2017 - Sep. 29, 2017 (0430 UTC)
« Reply #83 on: 09/29/2017 05:15 am »
Construction of first BFR begins Q2 of next year, 2018.

Complete ship and be ready to launch in 5 years.

5 years seems like a long time for Musk.


OH.... AND THAT'S TO MARS!  2 CARGO BFRs to Mars in 2022.  And 2024, 4 BFRs.

First two find water.  Second four construct prop depot.
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Re: Elon Musk Presentation, IAC 2017 - Sep. 29, 2017 (0430 UTC)
« Reply #84 on: 09/29/2017 05:16 am »
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"I think it would be great to be born on Earth and to die on Mars. Just hopefully not at the point of impact." -Elon Musk
"We're a little bit like the dog who caught the bus" - Musk after CRS-8 S1 successfully landed on ASDS OCISLY

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Mars Entry.
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Re: Elon Musk Presentation, IAC 2017 - Sep. 29, 2017 (0430 UTC)
« Reply #87 on: 09/29/2017 05:17 am »
He's showing the Martian city!

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Re: Elon Musk Presentation, IAC 2017 - Sep. 29, 2017 (0430 UTC)
« Reply #88 on: 09/29/2017 05:18 am »
Then, over time, you know, terra forming Mars and making it a really nice place to be.

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Re: Elon Musk Presentation, IAC 2017 - Sep. 29, 2017 (0430 UTC)
« Reply #89 on: 09/29/2017 05:18 am »
goals
"I think it would be great to be born on Earth and to die on Mars. Just hopefully not at the point of impact." -Elon Musk
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Mars City lol....damn.
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Re: Elon Musk Presentation, IAC 2017 - Sep. 29, 2017 (0430 UTC)
« Reply #91 on: 09/29/2017 05:19 am »
"That's quite a beautiful picture.  On Mars, the sky is blue at daybreak and sunset."

But wait, there's more...

What if you take BFR as an Earth-transport craft... going from one place on Earth to another with BFR.

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Re: Elon Musk Presentation, IAC 2017 - Sep. 29, 2017 (0430 UTC)
« Reply #92 on: 09/29/2017 05:20 am »
New York to Shanghai in 39mins!  Most long-distance trips in 30mins.  Anywhere on Earth in 1hr.

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Re: Elon Musk Presentation, IAC 2017 - Sep. 29, 2017 (0430 UTC)
« Reply #94 on: 09/29/2017 05:21 am »
If we're building BFR to go to Mars, why not use it to go to other places on Earth, too.

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That's over.

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Re: Elon Musk Presentation, IAC 2017 - Sep. 29, 2017 (0430 UTC)
« Reply #96 on: 09/29/2017 05:23 am »
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"I think it would be great to be born on Earth and to die on Mars. Just hopefully not at the point of impact." -Elon Musk
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Re: Elon Musk Presentation, IAC 2017 - Sep. 29, 2017 (0430 UTC)
« Reply #97 on: 09/29/2017 05:24 am »
implies...
"I think it would be great to be born on Earth and to die on Mars. Just hopefully not at the point of impact." -Elon Musk
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Re: Elon Musk Presentation, IAC 2017 - Sep. 29, 2017 (0430 UTC)
« Reply #98 on: 09/29/2017 05:51 am »
BFR | Earth to Earth

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Published on Sep 28, 2017

The BFR will be capable of taking people from any city to any other city on Earth in under one hour.



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Re: Elon Musk Presentation, IAC 2017 - Sep. 29, 2017 (0430 UTC)
« Reply #99 on: 09/29/2017 05:57 am »
just repeating the original web link just in case:

Making Life Multiplanetary

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Streamed live starts at 42 minutes into the video.

This week at the International Astronautical Congress (IAC) in Adelaide, Australia, SpaceX CEO and Lead Designer Elon Musk will provide an update to his 2016 presentation regarding the long-term technical challenges that need to be solved to support the creation of a permanent, self-sustaining human presence on Mars.

You can watch the talk live on this page on Thursday, September 28th  at 9:30 pm PDT, or Friday, September 29 at 2:00 p.m. ACST.



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