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Re: SpaceX Spacesuit Revealed
« Reply #160 on: 09/12/2017 02:08 AM »
On a more serious note, it was mentioned by Shotwell that there are in fact multiple colors of suits to choose from.

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Re: SpaceX Spacesuit Revealed
« Reply #161 on: 09/12/2017 02:19 AM »
Please, no critical crew members in red!

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Re: SpaceX Spacesuit Revealed
« Reply #162 on: 09/12/2017 10:40 AM »
Please, no critical crew members in red!

Depends if you think the uniform colour schemes from ST:TOS have more weight than the uniform colour scheme from ST:TNG where one J L Picard was a red shirt! :P

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Re: SpaceX Spacesuit Revealed
« Reply #163 on: 09/12/2017 10:31 PM »
Comparing the two images I have seen of the helmet,  I have to say that the one on the right just looks like a mock-up.

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Re: SpaceX Spacesuit Revealed
« Reply #164 on: 09/13/2017 01:20 AM »
I think you're right. Photographer crewman said the one on the right was a jumpsuit.
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Re: SpaceX Spacesuit Revealed
« Reply #165 on: 09/13/2017 04:39 AM »
Comparing the two images I have seen of the helmet,  I have to say that the one on the right just looks like a mock-up.

The one on the right is created by the artist Wojciech Michalski based on the old leaked photo of the suit, not an official SpaceX release:

http://www.zbrushcentral.com/showthread.php?198191-Wojciech-Michalski-SketchBook/page7&p=1209848&infinite=1#post1209848

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Re: SpaceX Spacesuit Revealed
« Reply #166 on: 09/13/2017 06:34 AM »
I think you're right. Photographer crewman said the one on the right was a jumpsuit.

Jumpsuit as in "a one-piece garment with sleeves and legs and typically without integral coverings for feet, hands or head". It was a description of the design, not an implication that it was just a mock up.

And just to dive deeper into the Wikipedia rabbit hole, here is what it says about flight suit: "Its appearance is usually similar to a jumpsuit."
« Last Edit: 09/13/2017 06:39 AM by jpo234 »

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Re: SpaceX Spacesuit Revealed
« Reply #167 on: 09/13/2017 08:13 AM »
I think you're right. Photographer crewman said the one on the right was a jumpsuit.

Jumpsuit as in "a one-piece garment with sleeves and legs and typically without integral coverings for feet, hands or head". It was a description of the design, not an implication that it was just a mock up.

And just to dive deeper into the Wikipedia rabbit hole, here is what it says about flight suit: "Its appearance is usually similar to a jumpsuit."
Youve mostly convinced me.
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Re: SpaceX Spacesuit Revealed
« Reply #168 on: 09/13/2017 04:23 PM »
Anyone have any idea how the helmet comes off?

Also can the visor be open separately?

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Re: SpaceX Spacesuit Revealed
« Reply #169 on: 09/13/2017 04:44 PM »
Also can the visor be open separately?
I believe the answer is yes based on the below statement:

On reddit is a post from somebody who (claims to have) participated in the photo shoot:

https://www.reddit.com/r/space/comments/6yxovo/elon_musk_shares_first_fullbody_photo_of_spacexs/dmrabou

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Well, I'm flattered! But I'm not sure how much I can tell you surely it wouldn't be worth an entire AMA.

But let's see... the new space suit was definitely a jump suit, and definitely didn't let any air in. The man inside (he wore the thing for like 8 hours straight while we were shooting + lighting, no joke) needed the visor to be lifted after about every 5-10 shots so he could breathe. We had someone with a large ventilation tube on standby, to sort of shoot cool air into his face while we were going over the shots, adjusting his positioning, lighting, etc.

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Re: SpaceX Spacesuit Revealed
« Reply #170 on: 09/13/2017 06:56 PM »
Comparing the two images I have seen of the helmet,  I have to say that the one on the right just looks like a mock-up.


I'm reminded of this......

« Last Edit: 09/13/2017 06:57 PM by litton4 »
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Re: SpaceX Spacesuit Revealed
« Reply #171 on: 09/17/2017 02:35 AM »
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I'm reminded of this......

That is iconic.  On the other hand, I made a first attempt at modeling it and as I blundered along I was reminded more of a toilet seat than a helmet.  I needs more references!

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Re: SpaceX Spacesuit Revealed
« Reply #172 on: 09/18/2017 11:05 PM »
Also can the visor be open separately?
I believe the answer is yes based on the below statement:

On reddit is a post from somebody who (claims to have) participated in the photo shoot:

https://www.reddit.com/r/space/comments/6yxovo/elon_musk_shares_first_fullbody_photo_of_spacexs/dmrabou

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Well, I'm flattered! But I'm not sure how much I can tell you surely it wouldn't be worth an entire AMA.

But let's see... the new space suit was definitely a jump suit, and definitely didn't let any air in. The man inside (he wore the thing for like 8 hours straight while we were shooting + lighting, no joke) needed the visor to be lifted after about every 5-10 shots so he could breathe. We had someone with a large ventilation tube on standby, to sort of shoot cool air into his face while we were going over the shots, adjusting his positioning, lighting, etc.

So where are all the connectors for air and comms? The Boeing suit showed them. Why weren't the photographers using those connectors??? Seems like the SpaceX suit has a longer way to go.

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Re: SpaceX Spacesuit Revealed
« Reply #173 on: 09/18/2017 11:25 PM »
Also can the visor be open separately?
I believe the answer is yes based on the below statement:

On reddit is a post from somebody who (claims to have) participated in the photo shoot:

https://www.reddit.com/r/space/comments/6yxovo/elon_musk_shares_first_fullbody_photo_of_spacexs/dmrabou

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Well, I'm flattered! But I'm not sure how much I can tell you surely it wouldn't be worth an entire AMA.

But let's see... the new space suit was definitely a jump suit, and definitely didn't let any air in. The man inside (he wore the thing for like 8 hours straight while we were shooting + lighting, no joke) needed the visor to be lifted after about every 5-10 shots so he could breathe. We had someone with a large ventilation tube on standby, to sort of shoot cool air into his face while we were going over the shots, adjusting his positioning, lighting, etc.

So where are all the connectors for air and comms? The Boeing suit showed them. Why weren't the photographers using those connectors??? Seems like the SpaceX suit has a longer way to go.

SpaceX by now has had to complete a couple milestones for suit integration that would require those connections if I remember right. Therefore if this is a flight model they would have to be low profile or somehow hidden in the pictures.

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Re: SpaceX Spacesuit Revealed
« Reply #174 on: 09/19/2017 12:22 AM »
From reports, the space suit photo shoot lasted most of a day, so there are many pictures we haven't seen yet. This is just a tease.

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Re: SpaceX Spacesuit Revealed
« Reply #175 on: 09/19/2017 12:57 AM »
From reports, the space suit photo shoot lasted most of a day, so there are many pictures we haven't seen yet. This is just a tease.

Which photo-shoot, and which suit?

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Re: SpaceX Spacesuit Revealed
« Reply #176 on: 09/19/2017 04:58 AM »
From reports, the space suit photo shoot lasted most of a day, so there are many pictures we haven't seen yet. This is just a tease.

Which photo-shoot, and which suit?

https://www.reddit.com/r/space/comments/6yxovo/elon_musk_shares_first_fullbody_photo_of_spacexs/dmrabou
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Re: SpaceX Spacesuit Revealed
« Reply #177 on: 09/19/2017 06:05 AM »
Also can the visor be open separately?
I believe the answer is yes based on the below statement:

On reddit is a post from somebody who (claims to have) participated in the photo shoot:

https://www.reddit.com/r/space/comments/6yxovo/elon_musk_shares_first_fullbody_photo_of_spacexs/dmrabou

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Well, I'm flattered! But I'm not sure how much I can tell you – surely it wouldn't be worth an entire AMA.

But let's see... the new space suit was definitely a jump suit, and definitely didn't let any air in. The man inside (he wore the thing for like 8 hours straight while we were shooting + lighting, no joke) needed the visor to be lifted after about every 5-10 shots so he could breathe. We had someone with a large ventilation tube on standby, to sort of shoot cool air into his face while we were going over the shots, adjusting his positioning, lighting, etc.

So where are all the connectors for air and comms? The Boeing suit showed them. Why weren't the photographers using those connectors??? Seems like the SpaceX suit has a longer way to go.
"All" the connectors? If you take a good hard look at the Boeing suit you will notice exactly two connectors. One for air and one for comms. The latter is, from most views, pretty much hidden behind the left arm.
What you failed to notice is that the Boeing suit is a fine example of functionality-over-looks. The SpaceX suit is different. It quite literally has looks-over-functionality in the sense that the cool-looking exterior is a shell over the actual pressure-suit. The connectors for the SpaceX suit are mounted on the actual pressure suit and are covered by a flap that is part of the exterior shell. You don't design a slick looking exterior with fancy helmet-to-match and than have that whole picture ruined by two connectors sticking out.
Stop thinking the NASA/Boeing way and start thinking the Elon way.

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Re: SpaceX Spacesuit Revealed
« Reply #178 on: 09/19/2017 02:34 PM »
The traditional approach doesn't seem to be functionality over looks as much as no consideration of looks at all beyond things like color or putting a logo patch on it.

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Re: SpaceX Spacesuit Revealed
« Reply #179 on: 09/19/2017 02:48 PM »
Also can the visor be open separately?
I believe the answer is yes based on the below statement:

On reddit is a post from somebody who (claims to have) participated in the photo shoot:

https://www.reddit.com/r/space/comments/6yxovo/elon_musk_shares_first_fullbody_photo_of_spacexs/dmrabou

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Well, I'm flattered! But I'm not sure how much I can tell you surely it wouldn't be worth an entire AMA.

But let's see... the new space suit was definitely a jump suit, and definitely didn't let any air in. The man inside (he wore the thing for like 8 hours straight while we were shooting + lighting, no joke) needed the visor to be lifted after about every 5-10 shots so he could breathe. We had someone with a large ventilation tube on standby, to sort of shoot cool air into his face while we were going over the shots, adjusting his positioning, lighting, etc.

So where are all the connectors for air and comms? The Boeing suit showed them. Why weren't the photographers using those connectors??? Seems like the SpaceX suit has a longer way to go.
"All" the connectors? If you take a good hard look at the Boeing suit you will notice exactly two connectors. One for air and one for comms. The latter is, from most views, pretty much hidden behind the left arm.
What you failed to notice is that the Boeing suit is a fine example of functionality-over-looks. The SpaceX suit is different. It quite literally has looks-over-functionality in the sense that the cool-looking exterior is a shell over the actual pressure-suit. The connectors for the SpaceX suit are mounted on the actual pressure suit and are covered by a flap that is part of the exterior shell. You don't design a slick looking exterior with fancy helmet-to-match and than have that whole picture ruined by two connectors sticking out.
Stop thinking the NASA/Boeing way and start thinking the Elon way.

Just curious, why a connector for comms?  Aren't we a bit past that technology-wise?
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