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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #80 on: 10/05/2017 08:33 AM »
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #81 on: 10/05/2017 03:22 PM »
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #82 on: 10/09/2017 06:26 PM »
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Owner #hisdesat Spain: @SpaceX sets Jan 30 VAFB launch of 1400-kg @AirbusDefence-built Paz high-res SAR Earth obs sat to 514-km polar orbit.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #83 on: 10/12/2017 01:17 PM »
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SES is considering launching its next satellite SES 16 developed in partnership with the government of Luxembourg with a reused Falcon 9 booster in January.

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SES 16 slips to January and on a re-used booster (as I think can be expected for most SES flights from here on out).

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #84 on: 10/12/2017 01:29 PM »
Starting to feel like SpaceX is clearing the calendar for December launch prep (and hopefully, launch) of Falcon Heavy.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #85 on: 10/12/2017 10:52 PM »
-confirmed that Boca is explicitly for BFR
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #86 on: 10/12/2017 10:57 PM »
Starting to feel like SpaceX is clearing the calendar for December launch prep (and hopefully, launch) of Falcon Heavy.

If you're referring to the SES launch moving to January and on a reused booster, that may also be dealing with booster production limitations.

Maybe someone is trying to slip in a launch of Starlink test sats or Google X Prize rovers.
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #87 on: 10/12/2017 11:51 PM »
Starting to feel like SpaceX is clearing the calendar for December launch prep (and hopefully, launch) of Falcon Heavy.

If you're referring to the SES launch moving to January and on a reused booster, that may also be dealing with booster production limitations.

Maybe someone is trying to slip in a launch of Starlink test sats or Google X Prize rovers.

This is Off Topic for this thread, people.
We are discussing what is going to be launched when, not "why".  There are plenty of threads in which to discuss that.
As for the manifest, we have no info suggesting launches not on our list being inserted.
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #88 on: 10/14/2017 11:40 AM »
As for the manifest, we have no info suggesting launches not on our list being inserted.

There are approved FCC licences for an RTLS launch 1390 from 39A on November 10th.

1446-EX-ST-2017:
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=80568&RequestTimeout=1000

1318-EX-ST-2017:
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=80217&RequestTimeout=1000

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #89 on: 10/14/2017 11:53 AM »
Starting to feel like SpaceX is clearing the calendar for December launch prep (and hopefully, launch) of Falcon Heavy.

If you're referring to the SES launch moving to January and on a reused booster, that may also be dealing with booster production limitations.

Maybe someone is trying to slip in a launch of Starlink test sats or Google X Prize rovers.

This is Off Topic for this thread, people.
We are discussing what is going to be launched when, not "why".  There are plenty of threads in which to discuss that.
As for the manifest, we have no info suggesting launches not on our list being inserted.

I might have misread, but the report on Tom Ochinero's comments quoted him as stating there are 5 more launches planned for this year in addition to the Falcon Heavy Demo launch. If so, that would suggest a missing launch on our current predicted manifest for 2017.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #90 on: 10/14/2017 11:58 AM »
I might have misread, but the report on Tom Ochinero's comments quoted him as stating there are 5 more launches planned for this year in addition to the Falcon Heavy Demo launch. If so, that would suggest a missing launch on our current predicted manifest for 2017.

IIRC he said that a couple of hours before SES-11 launch, so it's unclear whether he counted that one.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #91 on: 10/14/2017 12:00 PM »
I might have misread, but the report on Tom Ochinero's comments quoted him as stating there are 5 more launches planned for this year in addition to the Falcon Heavy Demo launch. If so, that would suggest a missing launch on our current predicted manifest for 2017.

IIRC he said that a couple of hours before SES-11 launch, so it's unclear whether he counted that one.

Ah. That would explain it.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #92 on: 10/14/2017 12:58 PM »
As for the manifest, we have no info suggesting launches not on our list being inserted.

There are approved FCC licences for an RTLS launch 1390 from 39A on November 10th.

1446-EX-ST-2017:
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=80568&RequestTimeout=1000

1318-EX-ST-2017:
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=80217&RequestTimeout=1000

So this would be which known satellite?   Hispasat is way too heavy and GTO, so that can't be RTLS.  So it seems there is indeed an unknown payload out there.

Also...

Coming 12 days after Koreasat, this pushes 39A back again for Falcon Heavy.

Whatever is indeed ahead of CRS-13, that will make 30 Oct - 28 Nov a busy time period with 3 Falcon 9s from Kennedy/Cape in 30 days.

(EDITED: Hit post too quick before completing my thought that Hispasat is too heavy for RTLS.)
« Last Edit: 10/14/2017 01:04 PM by ChrisGebhardt »

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #93 on: 10/14/2017 01:02 PM »
Hispasat is too heavy to RTLS. It will probably be an expendable flight. So, this FCC application points to another payload.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #94 on: 10/14/2017 01:44 PM »
FCC APPLICATIONS ARE NET DATES, NOT LAUNCH DATES.

edit:  The start date on the application we think is for Hispasat 30W-6 is June 30.
« Last Edit: 10/14/2017 01:46 PM by gongora »

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #95 on: 10/14/2017 01:53 PM »
FCC APPLICATIONS ARE NET DATES, NOT LAUNCH DATES.

Yup, poor phrasing on my part. Still expected to go ASAP from 39A before it's taken over by the heavy.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #96 on: 10/14/2017 04:27 PM »
As for the manifest, we have no info suggesting launches not on our list being inserted.

There are approved FCC licences for an RTLS launch 1390 from 39A on November 10th.

1446-EX-ST-2017:
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=80568&RequestTimeout=1000

1318-EX-ST-2017:
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=80217&RequestTimeout=1000

And now we do
Good
My personal list had something in what nowadays looks like a big gap at 28 days.
My objection above was people discussing WHY SpaceX had a gap.
There are other threads for those discussions.
Now if we can just figure out what the payload is.
My list had Hispasat in this gap but Chris G says Hispasat is too heavy for the permitted RTLS.

edit:  We are all posting the same things at the same time.  I linked to Chris G's post just as he cross posted it. 

Gongora: Do you mean the permit thought to be Hispasat 30W-6 is for NEXT June 30, as in 2018?
Should you move Hispasat down the list, but leave the line, change the date to the 10th, and put on a likely core number?
« Last Edit: 10/14/2017 04:51 PM by Comga »
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #97 on: 10/14/2017 11:08 PM »
So with the mystery payload, SpaceX may make 20 flights for the year after all. Suddenly the goal of 30 next year doesn't seem like such a stretch.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #98 on: 10/14/2017 11:24 PM »
Gongora: Do you mean the permit thought to be Hispasat 30W-6 is for NEXT June 30, as in 2018?
Should you move Hispasat down the list, but leave the line, change the date to the 10th, and put on a likely core number?

No, the FCC permit we think would be for Hispasat has a start date of June 30, 2017.  It's valid through the end of the year (and is for 39A, so who knows, maybe it gets replaced with a different permit if they change the pad).

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #99 on: 10/15/2017 07:22 AM »
http://www.satellitetoday.com/telecom/2017/06/22/cpi-will-provide-antenna-systems-skyvisions-gisat-1/
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CPI expects delivery and installation of the antennas to begin in mid-2018 and to be completed in 2019.

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