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Re: National Space Council Reestablished
« Reply #40 on: 08/01/2017 07:11 AM »
I am sure that Mr. Pace will be a strong advocate for full funding for NASA.
Pace, Pence, Congress, whoever - advocating for funding doesn't do anything if the funding is constantly wasted. Reestablishing the NSC should focus the efforts and direction first and foremost, not just cheerlead budgets. Ideally the NSF would outlay a plan to improve the effectiveness, speed and returns of our space program at lower budgets, providing margin for future advancements and missions.

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Re: National Space Council Reestablished
« Reply #41 on: 08/08/2017 12:30 PM »
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The National Space Council gets to work

http://www.thespacereview.com/article/3301/1

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A dim future for the National Space Council?

http://www.thespacereview.com/article/3300/1
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Re: National Space Council Reestablished
« Reply #42 on: 08/08/2017 04:50 PM »
Another:
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Trump’s space leader says SpaceX is outstanding, but…

https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/08/the-new-leader-of-trumps-space-council-seems-skeptical-of-spacex/
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Re: National Space Council Reestablished
« Reply #43 on: 09/26/2017 08:20 PM »
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The White House
Office of the Press Secretary

For Immediate Release
September 26, 2017

\Vice President Mike Pence Announces First Meeting of The National Space Council

Today, Vice President Mike Pence announced the first meeting of the National Space Council is scheduled for October 5, 2017 at the Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center in Chantilly, Virginia. The meeting, titled “Leading the Next Frontier: An Event with the National Space Council,” will include testimonials from expert witnesses who represent the sectors of the space industry: Civil Space, Commercial Space, and National Security Space.

“At President Trump’s direction, the kick-off meeting of the National Space Council will bring together all aspects and sectors of the national space enterprise for the first time in a quarter century,” said Vice President Pence. “This meeting will provide an opportunity for the Administration to lay out its vision for space exploration. As President Trump said, ‘We’re a nation of pioneers, and the next great American frontier is space.’ ”

President Trump signed an executive order reestablishing the National Space Council on June 30, 2017. Currently confirmed council members of the first meeting include: National Space Council Chairman, Vice President Mike Pence; Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson; Secretary of Defense, James Mattis; Secretary of Commerce, Wilbur Ross; Secretary of Transportation, Elaine Chao; Acting Secretary of Homeland Security, Elaine Duke; Office of Management and Budget Director, Mick Mulvaney; National Security Advisor, H.R. McMaster; Director of National Intelligence, Daniel Coats; Acting NASA Administrator, Robert Lightfoot; Deputy Chief Technology Officer of the United States, Michael Kratsios; and the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Paul J. Selva.

Additional details about the meeting are forthcoming.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/09/26/vice-president-mike-pence-announces-first-meeting-national-space-council

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Re: National Space Council Reestablished
« Reply #44 on: 10/04/2017 02:53 PM »
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Here’s what to expect from Trump’s space council meeting this week
"I'm optimistic. The VP's staff has been incredibly engaging."

Eric Berger - 10/4/2017, 3:16 PM

https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/10/heres-what-to-expect-from-trumps-space-council-meeting-this-week/

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According to sources, chief executives or presidents of Lockheed Martin, Boeing, and Orbital ATK will speak during the civil space panel; representatives of SpaceX, Blue Origin, and Sierra Nevada Corporation will speak on the commercial space panel; and Air Force and Navy officials will speak during the military space panel.


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Re: National Space Council Reestablished
« Reply #45 on: 10/04/2017 03:34 PM »
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Stephen C. Smith‏ @WordsmithFL 10m10 minutes ago

I'm curious to see how many Council members show up.
https://twitter.com/WordsmithFL/status/915598145098264576

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Eric Berger‏ Verified account @SciGuySpace 3m3 minutes ago

I think many or almost all will. Gwynne will be testifying for SpaceX.
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/915600074213912576

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Re: National Space Council Reestablished
« Reply #46 on: 10/04/2017 07:18 PM »
Here's the roster:
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Full list of participants in Thursday's National Space Council meeting.
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/915654776402178048

Only 45 minutes for civil space, 30 minutes each for commercial and military!!!
Seems a total waste of time for such high level participants... 
What of substance can you do with three panelists (assuming each makes a statement) and then discussions/Q&A with council?
(Bad omen for style over substance.)
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Re: National Space Council Reestablished
« Reply #47 on: 10/04/2017 08:19 PM »
October 04, 2017
MEDIA ADVISORY M17-115
NASA Provides Coverage for First Meeting of the National Space Council
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NASA Television and the agency’s website will provide live coverage of the first meeting of the National Space Council starting at 10 a.m. EDT Thursday, Oct. 5.

The meeting, titled “Leading the Next Frontier: An Event with the National Space Council,” will be held at the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum’s Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center in Chantilly, Virginia. It will be chaired Vice President Mike Pence and include participation by acting NASA Administrator Robert Lightfoot, as well as a number of Trump Administration cabinet members and senior officials, and aerospace industry leaders.

“We expect to come out of this meeting with a reinvigorated focus for America’s space exploration goals that engages all the innovation of NASA and our partners, moves us toward national priorities, and excites people around the world,” said Lightfoot.

The council will hear testimonial from expert witnesses who represent the sectors of the space industry: Civil Space, Commercial Space, and National Security Space. President Trump signed an executive order reestablishing the National Space Council on June 30.

Images from the meeting will be available at:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/nasahqphoto

Video highlights will be available to download at:

https://www.nasa.gov/videofile

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Re: National Space Council Reestablished
« Reply #48 on: 10/05/2017 12:05 AM »
Here's the roster:
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Full list of participants in Thursday's National Space Council meeting.
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/915654776402178048

Only 45 minutes for civil space, 30 minutes each for commercial and military!!!
Seems a total waste of time for such high level participants... 
What of substance can you do with three panelists (assuming each makes a statement) and then discussions/Q&A with council?
(Bad omen for style over substance.)

Yes, certainly. Did you expect anything different?

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Re: National Space Council Reestablished
« Reply #49 on: 10/05/2017 12:13 AM »
Here's the roster:
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Full list of participants in Thursday's National Space Council meeting.
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/915654776402178048

Only 45 minutes for civil space, 30 minutes each for commercial and military!!!
Seems a total waste of time for such high level participants... 
What of substance can you do with three panelists (assuming each makes a statement) and then discussions/Q&A with council?
(Bad omen for style over substance.)

That's a lot more than under prior administrations. House and Senate hearings aren't any longer.

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Re: National Space Council Reestablished
« Reply #50 on: 10/05/2017 12:33 AM »
Here's the roster:
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Full list of participants in Thursday's National Space Council meeting.
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/915654776402178048

Only 45 minutes for civil space, 30 minutes each for commercial and military!!!
Seems a total waste of time for such high level participants... 
What of substance can you do with three panelists (assuming each makes a statement) and then discussions/Q&A with council?
(Bad omen for style over substance.)

Not divulging any inside information, but speculating given my experience...

The council members and staffers, etc. may be also:

Going on tours of this wonderful air and space museum.

Eating lunch.

Have time set aside for unofficial conversation.
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Many of them may be coming by road from other parts of the DC metro area.  If so, they may have to budget an hour of time or more to get to and from the Hazy Center in DC traffic.
« Last Edit: 10/05/2017 12:34 AM by zubenelgenubi »
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Re: National Space Council Reestablished
« Reply #51 on: 10/05/2017 12:54 AM »
That's a lot more than under prior administrations.

Ya mean other than the weeks and weeks that went into the Review of United States Human Space Flight Plans Committee?

Hopefully this group won't be making recommendations for what could be done if the budget for human spaceflight was twice what it is now.

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Re: National Space Council Reestablished
« Reply #52 on: 10/05/2017 01:06 AM »
You guys might wanna pay attention. Something might happen...

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Re: National Space Council Reestablished
« Reply #53 on: 10/05/2017 01:12 AM »
You guys might wanna pay attention. Something might happen...

I'll be awake at midnight watching.
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Re: National Space Council Reestablished
« Reply #54 on: 10/05/2017 01:46 AM »
Okay, so the story got out (I expected them to hold it right up to the actual public hearing):

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/america-will-return-to-the-moonand-go-beyond-1507158341


Sixty years ago this week, the Soviet Union launched the world’s first satellite into orbit, changing the course of history. The race for space was on, and the Soviets had taken an early lead. But the sight of Sputnik blinking across the October sky spurred Americans to action. Twelve years later, with “one giant leap for mankind,” the U.S. claimed its rightful place as the undisputed leader in the exploration of the heavens.

That pre-eminence in outer space is now under threat—and once again, America must act. President Trump has revived the National Space Council to assist him in developing and implementing long-range strategic goals for our nation’s space policy. On Thursday the council will hold its first meeting in nearly 25 years, and as its chairman, I will deliver a simple message: America will lead in space again.

More than ever, American prosperity and security depend on U.S. leadership in space. Yet national space policy often has lacked a coherent, cohesive vision. The results not only are disappointing; they endanger the well-being of the American people.

The U.S. pays Russia more than $76 million a seat to carry American astronauts to the International Space Station, since we have no vehicle capable of performing this task. The intelligence community reports that Russia and China are pursuing a full range of antisatellite technology designed to threaten our military’s effectiveness. These are only two examples of America’s abdication of leadership in space.

The president has charged the National Space Council with restoring that leadership. The council’s objectives are clear.

We will refocus America’s space program toward human exploration and discovery. That means launching American astronauts beyond low-Earth orbit for the first time since 1972. It means establishing a renewed American presence on the moon, a vital strategic goal. And from the foundation of the moon, America will be the first nation to bring mankind to Mars.

We will renew America’s commitment to creating the space technology needed to protect national security. Our adversaries are aggressively developing jamming and hacking capabilities that could cripple critical military surveillance, navigation systems and communication networks. In the face of this threat, America must be as dominant in the heavens as it is on Earth.

We will promote regulatory, technological, and educational reforms to expand opportunities for American citizens and ensure that the U.S. is at the forefront of economic development in outer space. In the years to come, American industry must be the first to maintain a constant commercial human presence in low-Earth orbit, to expand the sphere of the economy beyond this blue marble.​

To achieve these goals, the National Space Council will look beyond the halls of government for insight and expertise. In the coming weeks, President Trump and I will assemble a Users’ Advisory Group partly composed of leaders from America’s burgeoning commercial space industry. Business is leading the way on space technology, and we intend to draw from the bottomless well of innovation to solve the challenges ahead.

Above all, the National Space Council will enable our nation to bring American values to this infinite frontier. It will renew the American spirit itself, as we lift our heads and reach our hands toward the heavens, in pursuit of peace and hope for all mankind.

As the National Space Council meets Thursday, our nation can know with confidence: Under President Trump, America will lead in space again.
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Re: National Space Council Reestablished
« Reply #55 on: 10/05/2017 02:20 AM »
Quote from: Vice President Pence
We will refocus America’s space program toward human exploration and discovery. That means launching American astronauts beyond low-Earth orbit for the first time since 1972. It means establishing a renewed American presence on the moon, a vital strategic goal. And from the foundation of the moon, America will be the first nation to bring mankind to Mars.

So we are going back to the Moon first. I hope that they focus on that tomorrow.
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Re: National Space Council Reestablished
« Reply #56 on: 10/05/2017 02:29 AM »
What is this article exactly? Official policy announcement? It reads as very generic rah rah, without any specifics. Not that VP is supposed to provide specifics but..
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Re: National Space Council Reestablished
« Reply #57 on: 10/05/2017 03:00 AM »
What is this article exactly? Official policy announcement? It reads as very generic rah rah, without any specifics. Not that VP is supposed to provide specifics but..

It's an opinion piece in the WSJ by Mike Pence.

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« Reply #58 on: 10/05/2017 03:01 AM »
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In the years to come, American industry must be the first to maintain a constant commercial human presence in low-Earth orbit, to expand the sphere of the economy beyond this blue marble.​

To achieve these goals, the National Space Council will look beyond the halls of government for insight and expertise. In the coming weeks, President Trump and I will assemble a Users’ Advisory Group partly composed of leaders from America’s burgeoning commercial space industry. Business is leading the way on space technology, and we intend to draw from the bottomless well of innovation to solve the challenges ahead.

This is the most interesting part in my mind.

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Re: National Space Council Reestablished
« Reply #59 on: 10/05/2017 03:10 AM »
The James S. McDonnell Space Hangar will be closed tomorrow for this event.
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