Author Topic: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SES 11/Echostar 105 : Oct 11, 2017 : Discussion  (Read 50055 times)

Offline Chris Bergin

Well, well. Apparently from 39A, which means 40 isn't close to ready and there's no chance of FH in November. Unless this is a default position and they can change it to 40.

SpaceX Opens Media Accreditation for EchoStar 105/SES-11 Mission

HAWTHORNE, Calif. – Aug. 31, 2017. Media accreditation is now open for SpaceX's EchoStar 105/SES-11 mission from Launch Complex 39A (LC-39A) at Kennedy Space Center in Florida. The launch is targeted for no earlier than October.

A flight-proven Falcon 9 will deliver EchoStar 105/SES-11 to a geostationary transfer orbit (GTO).

Members of the media who are interested in covering the launch must fill out this media accreditation form by 3:00 p.m. EDT on Tuesday, September 5.


More details on the mission and pre-launch media activities will be made available on a date closer to launch.

 


 

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[SpaceNews] SpaceX to launch shared EchoStar, SES satellite in October
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Both satellite operators originally anticipated the spacecraft launching in late 2016, but SpaceX’s September 2016 Falcon 9 explosion set the mission back about a year.

This is one of a couple late-2016 payloads that haven't flown yet.  Every time SpaceX has a gap in their launch schedule some people seem to think they're waiting on payloads.  They're not waiting on payloads, quite the opposite.

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This is one of a couple late-2016 payloads that haven't flown yet.  Every time SpaceX has a gap in their launch schedule some people seem to think they're waiting on payloads.  They're not waiting on payloads, quite the opposite.

Does that mean this payload has been in storage for a year?

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This is one of a couple late-2016 payloads that haven't flown yet.  Every time SpaceX has a gap in their launch schedule some people seem to think they're waiting on payloads.  They're not waiting on payloads, quite the opposite.

Does that mean this payload has been in storage for a year?

We don't normally see any information on when a satellite is completed, but in May of last year they were still expecting a Q4 2016 launch, so it's probably been in storage at least 9 months if they didn't hit any production snags with it.

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I wonder where this is now.  We need to get some of our ship trackers interested in Antonovs  :)

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Spaceflight Now currently reports the launch date to be on October 2nd.  ;)
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Spaceflight Now currently reports the launch date to be on October 2nd.  ;)

2nd and 4th of October (SES-11 and Iridium #3, respectively). 
Could be start of something big...
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Spaceflight Now currently reports the launch date to be on October 2nd.  ;)

2nd and 4th of October (SES-11 and Iridium #3, respectively). 
Could be start of something big...

There were also 2 days between BulgariaSat-1 (6/23/17) and Iridium Next 2 (6/25/17)
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Spaceflight Now currently reports the launch date to be on October 2nd.  ;)

2nd and 4th of October (SES-11 and Iridium #3, respectively). 
Could be start of something big...

There were also 2 days between BulgariaSat-1 (6/23/17) and Iridium Next 2 (6/25/17)

Was referring to the fact that the 4th quarter is just beginning, and they have 8-10 launches potentially on manifest for rest of 2017.  Starting with two launches in first four days makes reaching 20 for the year fairly realistic.
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Spaceflight Now currently reports the launch date to be on October 2nd.  ;)

Then it should be at the Cape already?  I wonder which cleanroom it's in.  Their main PPF got some damage from the last hurricane.

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Spaceflight Now currently reports the launch date to be on October 2nd.  ;)

Then it should be at the Cape already?  I wonder which cleanroom it's in.  Their main PPF got some damage from the last hurricane.

And Hurricane Matthew was downright mild compared to predictions for Irma... Fingers crossed.

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Spaceflight Now currently reports the launch date to be on October 2nd.  ;)

2nd and 4th of October (SES-11 and Iridium #3, respectively). 
Could be start of something big...

There were also 2 days between BulgariaSat-1 (6/23/17) and Iridium Next 2 (6/25/17)

Was referring to the fact that the 4th quarter is just beginning, and they have 8-10 launches potentially on manifest for rest of 2017.  Starting with two launches in first four days makes reaching 20 for the year fairly realistic.

Of those 8-10, I think only 6 have a reasonable chance of launching, that would give us a total of 18, which is still very good. Right now there's nothing for the rest of the month, and then it looks like it might be a two-launch October. We'll see how the schedule (and more importantly, the Florida winter weather) shapes up.

I see SES-11 / EchoStar 105, Iridium Next 3, Falcon Heavy Demo, Iridium Next 4, Koreasat 5A, Hispasat 30W-6, Paz, SES-16 / GovSat-1, Bangabandhu 1, and CRS-13 on the schedule, but I think the last 4 are very likely to bump to early 2018, but most likely a lot will depend on the weather.
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There is a Manifest thread for this kind of discussion and the 2017 SpaceX launches poll thread for endless discussion about how many more SpaceX can squeeze in before Pope Gregory XIII's chosen end of the year.
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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[Spaceflight Now] Launch operators expect minimal delays from Hurricane Irma
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SES officials said the SES 11/EchoStar 105 satellite weathered the storm without damage inside a SpaceX-owned clean room in a hangar near pad 40. If ground crews can resume work on the satellite within a few days, the payload could still be ready for liftoff in early October.

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You started an update thread that seemed to strongly suggest an NET date of 20th October.

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October 2?, 2017 on Falcon 9 with a reused booster (1031.2) from LC-39A at KSC.  Probably an ASDS landing.

If I misread that, then my apologies.
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You started an update thread that seemed to strongly suggest an NET date of 20th October.

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October 2?, 2017 on Falcon 9 with a reused booster (1031.2) from LC-39A at KSC.  Probably an ASDS landing.

If I misread that, then my apologies.

October 2 (question mark).  October 2 has been previously reported but there's that whole hurricane cleanup thing going on...

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You started an update thread that seemed to strongly suggest an NET date of 20th October.

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October 2?, 2017 on Falcon 9 with a reused booster (1031.2) from LC-39A at KSC.  Probably an ASDS landing.

If I misread that, then my apologies.

October 2 (question mark).  October 2 has been previously reported but there's that whole hurricane cleanup thing going on...

FWIW: "45th Space Wing Cdr Monteith expects launches to resume early Oct. with SpaceX/SES-11. Wing hosted Army 101st Airborne after Irma." courtesy of James Dean.

https://twitter.com/flatoday_jdean/status/907984047128944640

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Am I correct in saying... No official confirmation yet this will not be an expendable S1 flight?...  ???

My thinking is the barns are full and this payload is nearly at weight limit...  so expendable it will be...  :P
« Last Edit: 09/19/2017 08:49 PM by John Alan »

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Am I correct in saying... No official confirmation yet this will not be an expendable S1 flight?...  ???

My thinking is the barns are full and this payload is nearly at weight limit...  so expendable it will be...  :P

It's probably ASDS (but I'd like to see some official word of that), I guess we'll find out if Block 4 makes any difference.

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I'm with Gongora here. 5400kg vs 5300kg for SES-10, so I would be surprised if SpaceX didn't at least attempt an ASDS recovery.
« Last Edit: 09/19/2017 09:00 PM by vaporcobra »

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