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Re: OneWeb constellation (+900 sats) to be built by Airbus
« Reply #20 on: 06/26/2015 04:50 PM »
Here’s Why Coca-Cola is Investing in OneWeb.

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PARIS — Whether Internet goes better with Coke is anyone’s guess, but Coke is going with OneWeb.

The giant soft drink maker is an equity investor in OneWeb LLC and one of the surprises of the June 25 OneWeb briefing on London.

Coca-Cola was not there to explain its decision, but OneWeb founder Greg Wyler said the company has a program called Five by 20 that seeks to promote women’s employment in areas of the world where OneWeb will have connectivity.

- See more at: http://spacenews.com/heres-why-coca-cola-is-investing-in-oneweb/#sthash.J2TdQrNh.dpuf

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Re: OneWeb constellation (+900 sats) to be built by Airbus
« Reply #21 on: 06/26/2015 06:39 PM »

Does this mean that Pepsi will be funding the SpaceX constellation in the future?

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Re: OneWeb constellation (+900 sats) to be built by Airbus
« Reply #22 on: 06/26/2015 07:08 PM »


Does this mean that Pepsi will be funding the SpaceX constellation in the future?

Well stranger things have happened!

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Re: OneWeb constellation (+900 sats) to be built by Airbus
« Reply #23 on: 06/26/2015 09:57 PM »

Does this mean that Pepsi will be funding the SpaceX constellation in the future?

It's possible though something like Launcher One would be a better match for this type of mission as each satellite needs to go into a slightly different orbit.
Orbital plane changes are very delta V intensive so all sats launched as a group must go in roughly the same plane so you're not going to get as much benefit as you'd think from a larger LV.
Part of the payload would have to be reserved for fuel for plane changes or even a tug that can drop off the sats in their individual orbits.

« Last Edit: 06/26/2015 10:06 PM by Patchouli »

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Re: OneWeb constellation (+900 sats) to be built by Airbus
« Reply #24 on: 06/28/2015 08:52 PM »
If you want to know more about OneWeb I would definitely recommend reading this article.

OneWeb’s Powerful Partners in Their Own Words,

http://spacenews.com/onewebs-partners-in-their-own-words/

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Re: OneWeb constellation (+900 sats) to be built by Airbus
« Reply #25 on: 11/22/2015 04:45 AM »
Interesting GIF from JPL ostensibly about FireSat.
FireSat is discussing 200 satellites at 1200 km.  That sounds like ~2/7 of the OneWeb constellation.
Look at the GIF and see all the satellites converging on the pole.
Then think there are more than three times the number of satellites shown and this is happening at both poles. 
What a nightmare of collision avoidance!
Satellites are passing through orbital intersections several times per second 24/7/365.
One slip, one collision, and it goes from mind-boggling to hopeless with a debris cloud sending junk on random, undetectable trajectories through the intersection points.
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Re: OneWeb constellation (+900 sats) to be built by Airbus
« Reply #26 on: 11/22/2015 06:02 PM »
Not really. Iridium seems to do fine.
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Re: OneWeb constellation (+900 sats) to be built by Airbus
« Reply #27 on: 11/23/2015 05:12 AM »
Interesting GIF from JPL ostensibly about FireSat.
FireSat is discussing 200 satellites at 1200 km.  That sounds like ~2/7 of the OneWeb constellation.
Look at the GIF and see all the satellites converging on the pole.
Then think there are more than three times the number of satellites shown and this is happening at both poles. 

I hate it when a real problem is misrepresented like this. What moron approved this gif? So the constellation is designed to detect wildfires at the north and south pole? A fire sat constellation would have an inclination well away from the poles.

Similar a com sat constellation. They would go to different inclinations and even the relatively small number of com sats covering the poles would not go to a 90° inclination. A situation as shown in this gif is not something real. There is a risk and both Elon Musk and Wyler have said they will have deorbiting rules much stricter than presently called for by treaties to minimize that risk.

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Re: OneWeb constellation (+900 sats) to be built by Airbus
« Reply #28 on: 11/23/2015 05:43 AM »
Not really. Iridium seems to do fine.
What about Kosmos-2251 seems fine to you? :o
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Re: OneWeb constellation (+900 sats) to be built by Airbus
« Reply #29 on: 11/23/2015 05:50 AM »
Interesting GIF from JPL ostensibly about FireSat.
FireSat is discussing 200 satellites at 1200 km.  That sounds like ~2/7 of the OneWeb constellation.
Look at the GIF and see all the satellites converging on the pole.
Then think there are more than three times the number of satellites shown and this is happening at both poles.

I hate it when a real problem is misrepresented like this. What moron approved this gif? So the constellation is designed to detect wildfires at the north and south pole? A fire sat constellation would have an inclination well away from the poles.

Similar a com sat constellation. They would go to different inclinations and even the relatively small number of com sats covering the poles would not go to a 90° inclination. A situation as shown in this gif is not something real. There is a risk and both Elon Musk and Wyler have said they will have deorbiting rules much stricter than presently called for by treaties to minimize that risk.

Please remain civil.
It is not mis-represented
OneWeb is their only known chance to get 200 hosted payloads.  (I don't know why they think this. but it is clearly stated.)
OneWeb has chosen a uniform inclination of something like 89 degrees.  (I don't know why but OneWeb is very specific about this.)  And OneWeb is proposing 720 satellites, not a mere 200.
(At least it's not 900+!  8)
And this thread is about OneWeb.  FireSat discussions are in the Cubesat threads.
And none of this makes much difference.
Traffic control for OneWeb will be an immense challenge.
« Last Edit: 11/23/2015 05:53 AM by Comga »
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Re: OneWeb constellation (+900 sats) to be built by Airbus
« Reply #30 on: 11/23/2015 05:58 AM »
Interesting GIF from JPL ostensibly about FireSat.
FireSat is discussing 200 satellites at 1200 km.  That sounds like ~2/7 of the OneWeb constellation.
Look at the GIF and see all the satellites converging on the pole.
Then think there are more than three times the number of satellites shown and this is happening at both poles.

I hate it when a real problem is misrepresented like this. What moron approved this gif? So the constellation is designed to detect wildfires at the north and south pole? A fire sat constellation would have an inclination well away from the poles.

Similar a com sat constellation. They would go to different inclinations and even the relatively small number of com sats covering the poles would not go to a 90° inclination. A situation as shown in this gif is not something real. There is a risk and both Elon Musk and Wyler have said they will have deorbiting rules much stricter than presently called for by treaties to minimize that risk.

Please remain civil.
It is not mis-represented
OneWeb is their only known chance to get 200 hosted payloads.  (I don't know why they think this. but it is clearly stated.)
OneWeb has chosen a uniform inclination of something like 89 degrees.  (I don't know why but OneWeb is very specific about this.)  And OneWeb is proposing 720 satellites, not a mere 200.
(At least it's not 900+!  8)
And this thread is about OneWeb.  FireSat discussions are in the Cubesat threads.
And none of this makes much difference.
Traffic control for OneWeb will be an immense challenge.
If you graphed all the ship traffic at 0 km altitude, I wonder what it would look like.

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Re: OneWeb constellation (+900 sats) to be built by Airbus
« Reply #31 on: 11/23/2015 09:15 AM »
OneWeb has chosen a uniform inclination of something like 89 degrees.  (I don't know why but OneWeb is very specific about this.)  And OneWeb is proposing 720 satellites, not a mere 200.

Do you have a source for that inclination? It makes very little sense to me.

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Re: OneWeb constellation (+900 sats) to be built by Airbus
« Reply #32 on: 11/27/2015 05:00 AM »
In general, I'm guessing that someone like OneWeb that is putting up a constellation is looking for additional revenue streams, so things like fire detection might come in.  You lose some mass, but make some money, and with it you can put up more satellites...  The Arctic is going to become quite a hot spot in the coming decades, so I wonder what else you can use optical sensing for.  Real-time ship and equipment tracking, for example...
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Re: OneWeb constellation (+900 sats) to be built by Airbus
« Reply #33 on: 11/27/2015 05:53 AM »
OneWeb has chosen a uniform inclination of something like 89 degrees.  (I don't know why but OneWeb is very specific about this.)  And OneWeb is proposing 720 satellites, not a mere 200.

Do you have a source for that inclination? It makes very little sense to me.

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"OneWeb’s 150-kilogram satellites will operate in an orbit 1,200 kilometers in altitude, in 18 planes of 40 satellites each, with an inclination of 87.9 degrees relative to the equator. With its solar arrays deployed, each satellite will measure some 3.5 square meters."

A slight error on my part. 87.9 degrees not 89 degrees.

This article by Duncan Steel says
"The original WorldVu plan apparently involved a constellation of 360 satellites in total, 180 each at altitudes of 800 and 950 km, and all having an inclination of 88.2 degrees."

Very similar inclination. It makes no sense to me either but that's what they are saying.
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Re: OneWeb constellation (+900 sats) to be built by Airbus
« Reply #34 on: 04/10/2016 09:37 PM »
OneWeb is hiring senior-level engineers in Melbourne, Florida

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Space Florida is about to award a major new contract to build a new 120,000-square-foot spacecraft-assembly building at Kennedy Space Center. Although Space Florida would not confirm the tenant, among many possibilities, one of the most likely occupants is OneWeb, which did not return requests for comment.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/brinkmann-on-business/os-oneweb-satellite-hiring-20160330-story.html
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Re: OneWeb constellation (+900 sats) to be built by Airbus
« Reply #35 on: 04/18/2016 04:14 PM »
OneWeb satellite factory will be in Exploration Park next to KSC:

http://spacenews.com/oneweb-satellites-to-settle-in-exploration-park-florida-with-eyes-on-business-beyond-oneweb/

Edit: A good indicator Launcherone might fly out of the KSC SLF?
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Re: OneWeb constellation (+900 sats) to be built by Airbus
« Reply #36 on: 04/20/2016 12:54 PM »
Things are moving forward with OneWeb.  The paperware is about to become hardware as they locate their factory across the street from Blue Origin's factory, so I think they deserve their own discussion thread. 

Here's some news from my neck of the woods to kick things off:
http://www.floridajobs.org/news-center/DEO-Press/2016/04/19/governor-rick-scott-oneweb-selects-florida-s-space-coast-for-satellite-manufacturing-operations

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http://www.floridatoday.com/story/tech/science/space/2016/04/19/oneweb-build-satellites-space-coast/83194754/

and their home page:
http://www.oneweb.world

Press release with a quote from my boss:

"Governor Rick Scott: OneWeb Selects Florida’s Space Coast for Satellite Manufacturing Operations
Apr 19, 2016
MERRITT ISLAND, Fla. – Today, Governor Scott announced that OneWeb, a global communications network company, will expand in Brevard County and create 250 high-tech manufacturing and engineering jobs. The company plans to locate a 100,000 square foot satellite manufacturing facility on Florida’s Space Coast at Exploration Park, just south of Kennedy Space Center. The project will also invest nearly $85 million into the community. OneWeb is working to create a global, satellite based communications network capable of delivering internet connectivity anywhere in the world.

Governor Scott said, “It’s great news that OneWeb has chosen to build one of the world’s most advanced aerospace manufacturing facilities right here in Florida. We have worked hard to permanently eliminate the sales tax on manufacturing machinery and equipment so companies like OneWeb can succeed right here in Florida. I look forward to seeing OneWeb Satellite’s continued success in Florida.”

OneWeb, which was founded by technology entrepreneur and former Google executive Greg Wyler, will design, build and launch an extensive network of small, low earth orbit satellites that will enable the delivery of internet services to every corner of the Earth at a low cost. These micro satellites will be manufactured at the Space Coast facility and will be mass produced utilizing fewer components thus making them lighter and easier to launch.

Greg Wyler, Founder and Chairman of OneWeb, said, “This new facility is another step in the dream of enabling affordable internet access for the entire globe. These satellites are truly state of the art as we have really pushed, but not exceeded, the limits of technology. With this new facility we will be able to iterate, update and continuously improve the satellite’s design and performance, and being right at the Space Center using Virgin Galactic we will be able to launch new satellites within hours of completion.”

Brian Holz, CEO of OneWeb Satellites, said, “Florida is an excellent location for our high volume satellite manufacturing facility. The State of Florida and Space Florida really understood our business needs and gave us an outstanding offer to locate in Exploration Park. Our high volume satellite production uses many of the same technologies as aircraft production and Florida has become a center of excellence for both aviation and space related technologies. We will leverage much of the local aerospace capability expanding opportunity in the Space Coast region, and we also anticipate many of our suppliers to co-locate operations near our facility. The facility will be a big part of our ability to dramatically lower satellite costs for OneWeb and other customers as we grow our business.”

OneWeb has teamed with a number of partners and suppliers to achieve their vision for connectivity. Airbus Defence and Space will begin by building test satellites at its facility in Toulouse, France; Ariannespace and Virgin Galactic will provide launch services support; Hughes Network Systems will build ground monitoring and management hardware; and Intelsat will manage the satellite fleet for the company.

The project was made possible through partnerships between Enterprise Florida, the Department of Economic Opportunity, Space Florida, Brevard County, The Economic Development Commission, and the North Brevard Economic Development Zone.

Bill Johnson, President and CEO of Enterprise Florida, said, “OneWeb’s decision to locate their manufacturing facility on the Space Coast is great news for Florida families. Their move will result in the creation of 250 new, high-tech jobs and the investment of $85 million into the local community. Florida is becoming the top destination for great IT companies like OneWeb, and I look forward to seeing their continued success.”

Cissy Proctor, Executive Director of the Florida Department of Economic Opportunity, said, “Today’s announcement is another great win for Florida’s Space Coast. OneWeb’s new facility will provide 250 high-wage jobs to Brevard County families. The aerospace industry is flourishing again in our state thanks to private-sector investment and innovation and Gov. Scott’s focus on increasing manufacturing in Florida by cutting taxes and streamlining regulation.”

Frank DiBello, President and CEO of Space Florida, said, “The announcement of OneWeb’s presence here at Exploration Park is one that perfectly aligns with Space Florida’s vision of the Cape Canaveral Spaceport and Florida as the world’s leading space commerce center. Our ever-expanding commercial space industry at the Cape Canaveral Spaceport will now be home to the most advanced satellite manufacturing capability in the world, and Space Florida looks forward to OneWeb Satellite’s success.”

Brevard County Board of County Commission Chair Jim Barfield, said, “In just a few short years, Brevard County has been able to achieve what many others have not; total diversification after a major economic shift. While no one in our community had a say in the Shuttle program shutdown, this community created its own future by bringing manufacturing, aerospace, and aviation innovators like OneWeb and others here. We are positioned well as we work together to keep the momentum going.”

Brevard County Commissioner, District 1 Robin Fisher, said, “By putting NBEDZ funds to work for our community, we are growing high wage employment. This project is a perfect fit within our ever expanding cluster of technology and aerospace companies in North Brevard.”

OneWeb has teamed with a number of partners and suppliers to achieve their vision for connectivity. Airbus Defence and Space will begin by building test satellites at its facility in Toulouse, France; Ariannespace and Virgin Galactic will provide launch services support; Hughes Network Systems will build ground monitoring and management hardware; and Intelsat will manage the satellite fleet for the company.

Lynda Weatherman, President and Chief Executive Officer of the Economic Development Commission of Florida’s Space Coast said, “Once again Brevard County is chosen to manufacture an innovative product unique to the aerospace industry, demonstrating our position as a leader in capturing the next generation of space related activities.”

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About OneWeb

OneWeb’s mission is to enable affordable Internet access for everyone and is building a communications network with a constellation of Low Earth Orbit satellites that will provide connectivity to billions of people around the world. With more than 10 terabits per second of new capacity, it will transparently extend the networks of mobile operators and ISP’s to serve new coverage areas, bringing voice and data access to consumers, businesses, schools, healthcare institutions and other end users. Visit OneWeb.world.
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Re: OneWeb constellation (+900 sats) to be built by Airbus
« Reply #37 on: 04/22/2016 03:21 AM »
OneWeb to Build Satellites on Space Coast, WKMG-TV 6 News, April 19, 2016

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Published on Apr 21, 2016
On April 19, 2016, WKMG-TV Channel 6 in Orlando reported on the media event at Kennedy Space Center's Exploration Park to announcement a deal between Space Florida and OneWeb to build satellites at the site.

The original report is at:

http://www.clickorlando.com/web/wkmg/news/deal-with-space-florida-to-build-satellites-on-spacecoast-expand-global-internet-access

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Re: OneWeb constellation (+900 sats) to be built by Airbus
« Reply #38 on: 05/01/2016 05:56 PM »
Why did they not choose SpaceX to launch any of their satellites?

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Re: OneWeb constellation (+900 sats) to be built by Airbus
« Reply #39 on: 05/01/2016 06:07 PM »
Why did they not choose SpaceX to launch any of their satellites?

Because SpaceX is (sort of) a competitor.
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