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Mobile version of NSF
« on: 09/23/2013 06:11 PM »
We're doing some work on that, so can people let us know if it auto-detects your phone and sends you to the mobile version of the forum when you enter....

If so, please list phone etc. If not, please do the same.

Thanks.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #1 on: 09/23/2013 06:14 PM »
Please also include the first line that is displayed on

http://whatsmyua.com/

when you visit that page with your mobile device/phone.

Thanks

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #2 on: 09/23/2013 06:16 PM »
Works on my iPhone. It's going to take some time to get used to the new interface.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #3 on: 09/23/2013 06:25 PM »
It auto detected my iPhone 4 when I visited the forum but not when I visited the main page.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #4 on: 09/23/2013 06:31 PM »
The mobile version is only available for the forum at the moment. News site will be looked at at a later time

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #5 on: 09/23/2013 06:32 PM »
Auto detected forum, but not main page, iPhone 4, ios 7.0

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #6 on: 09/23/2013 06:34 PM »
Auto-detected my Galaxy S3 just fine.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #7 on: 09/23/2013 06:52 PM »
Auto-detected my iPad with Chrome as a phone. Personally, I think tablets should use the general site. And I didn't find it intuitive to go to the new posts. Besides, it uses more screen reale state than the full site.
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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #8 on: 09/23/2013 07:01 PM »
Works okay on Blackberry Curve.

Mozilla/5.0(BlackBerry;U;Blackberry 9320;en-GB)AppleWebKit/534.11+(KHTML, like Gecko) Version/7.1.0.714 Mobile Safari/534.11+

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #9 on: 09/23/2013 07:47 PM »
Works on Droid X (Android 2.3.4).

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #10 on: 09/23/2013 07:51 PM »
iPad 2, iOS 6.1.3 (I think) works fine.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #11 on: 09/23/2013 08:06 PM »
user agent:

Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 2.3.6; ro-ro; Samsung GT-S7500/ etc.

Detected mobile on forum .


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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #12 on: 09/23/2013 08:16 PM »
http://tinyurl.com/pk2cnqc

Detected as mobile
« Last Edit: 09/23/2013 10:46 PM by Chris Bergin »

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #13 on: 09/23/2013 10:00 PM »
http://tinyurl.com/oagvrok

Detected on iPhone 5S
« Last Edit: 09/23/2013 10:44 PM by Chris Bergin »

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #14 on: 09/23/2013 10:18 PM »
Opera Browser on Android, Samsung Galaxy S2.

Setting: User agent: Desktop. Should serve me desktop versions of all pages. Should be respected.
UA:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/29.0.1547.72 Safari/537.36 OPR/16.0.1212.63780


Result: I get served (wrongly) the mobile version of NSF forum.



Setting: User agent: Mobile. Should serve me mobile versions of all pages. Should be respected.
UA:
Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 4.1.2; GT-I9100 Build/JZO54K) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/29.0.1547.72 Mobile Safari/537.36 OPR/16.0.1212.63780

Result: I get the mobile site.


If no corrections, then I won't use the site with my phone :( I always use the desktop versions whenever possible.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #15 on: 09/23/2013 10:58 PM »
Autodetected on Droid RAZR.. Chrome, Default and Dolphin browsers.

Preselection highlighting(blue) of forum topics appears in Default and Dolphin browser when attempting to drag page up and down. This is a bit annoying and there is a performance penalty.  This does not happen when using Chrome.
« Last Edit: 09/23/2013 10:59 PM by TrueBlueWitt »

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #16 on: 09/23/2013 11:25 PM »
Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 2.3.4; en-us; myTouch_4G_Slide Build/GRJ22) AppleWebKit/533.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0. Mobile Safari/533.1

It auto-detects it as mobile.  The mobile version of the forums has an annoying problem on my phone: the first time I click on a topic, it takes me there briefly, then bounces me back to the previous page.  I have to click it again to get to the topic.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #17 on: 09/24/2013 12:11 AM »
I think I'd rather use the full version, especially on my ipad. Any way to select which one you want to use?
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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #18 on: 09/24/2013 12:15 AM »
I think I'd rather use the full version, especially on my ipad. Any way to select which one you want to use?

Yes, you can always switch back to the full site (button on bottom right), but I'm going to set the default for 'tablets' to the full site as soon as possible.


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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #19 on: 09/24/2013 12:38 AM »
It works on my iPhone with iOS7 but I have some slight issues:

-When scrolling it highlights the section under my finger in blue, which is confusing.

-The forum descriptions are now included in the list of forums, this is different from the old mobile site and it means you have to scroll a lot more to reach the bottom of the list.

-The text size used to display posts is a bit too large.

-When reading a topic with multiple pages there's no indication of the total number of pages, i.e. 'page 2/5' and there is no 'next' or 'previous' button to navigate pages.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #20 on: 09/24/2013 12:54 AM »
Looks wonderful on Nexus 4, 7, & 10
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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #21 on: 09/24/2013 12:57 AM »
Thanks.  I agree with Padrat. It is easier to view the regular version on the iPad.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #22 on: 09/24/2013 01:40 AM »
My iPad3 now displays using the phone interface, which is very annoying.  The standard web interface on an iPad is much better than the mobile stripped down version.

Edit: I didn't see that there was already a second page to this thread when i wrote this, so I didn't realize that the tablet issue had already been raised.  Thanks for the tip about the button for switching to the full version, this is much better!
« Last Edit: 09/24/2013 01:45 AM by BrianNH »

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #23 on: 09/24/2013 01:43 AM »
It works on my iphone 5.

But the forum and thread list views are VERY tall - please trim the information so the display is more manageable.

Once you are in a thread it looks good, though.
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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #24 on: 09/24/2013 01:48 AM »
Mozilla/5.0 (Android; Mobile; rv:25.0) Gecko/25.0 Firefox/25.0

looks good. works automatically.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #25 on: 09/24/2013 02:11 AM »
You're all making me really jealous with your fancy phones! :)

Nokia Windows 7 bargain basement nonsense here. The Commodore 64 of phones! ;D

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #26 on: 09/24/2013 02:20 AM »
I think I'd rather use the full version, especially on my ipad. Any way to select which one you want to use?

Yes, you can always switch back to the full site (button on bottom right), but I'm going to set the default for 'tablets' to the full site as soon as possible.
. Took me quite a while of not finding that button before I did.      I recommend a more prominent spot for "classic version" or "full version" button.

Week-old iPad detected and switched me automatically. 
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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #27 on: 09/24/2013 03:37 AM »
The mobile site is easy to use on my new cheap-ish Sony Xperia L.  :) One little request though - would it be possible to use the "Request desktop site" button on Chrome for switching to and fro the original forum?

You're all making me really jealous with your fancy phones! :)

Nokia Windows 7 bargain basement nonsense here. The Commodore 64 of phones! ;D

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #28 on: 09/24/2013 07:07 AM »
Detected and works on my Nexus 10 tablet.
Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 4.3; Nexus 10 Build/JWR66Y) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/29.0.1547.72 Safari/537.36

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #29 on: 09/24/2013 10:45 AM »
Samsung 4s with chrome detected as mobile.

Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 4.2.2; SCH-I545 Build/JDQ39) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/29.0.1547.72 Mobile Safari/537.36
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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #30 on: 09/24/2013 12:06 PM »
Samsung GT P1000 (mk 1 7" tab).

I'm getting mobile version on stock browser, firefox & chrome.

This includes when I request "desktop version" on stock browser.

Per comment above, I'd agree that would be good if stock would continue to display mobile  version in standard mode, but honour the request for desktop version if I select that from the menu.

One comment re stock browser - I use the labs feature "quick controls" which intercepts touches at very edge of the screen. Thus makes it quite difficult to select the buttons up in the corners of the layout. (TBH, I find QC to be a PITA, but I do keep using it.)

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #31 on: 09/24/2013 08:54 PM »
Main NASASpaceFlight page is the desktop version, forum auto-detected mobile.


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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #32 on: 09/25/2013 01:49 AM »
Scroll down to the bottom of the mobile site and click the link for the full site. Easy.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #33 on: 09/25/2013 05:25 AM »
The mobile site still requires an awful lot of scrolling to see anything. I'm attaching two screen caps from my iPhone 5 with iOS 7:
(I'm posting using tapatalk as a test)

As far as the scrolling required, it is a bit silly when in many forums the sticky threads are 2x page tall before you get to current threads.  There really is no need to show that much information about a forum and/or thread.

EDIT 2: replaced weird attached images.
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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #34 on: 09/25/2013 04:19 PM »
Is there a "new" button on the mobile version?  I couldn't find it.
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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #35 on: 09/25/2013 07:51 PM »
A nice service to have, well done to all involved.
However, I agree with Lars_J about the excessive scrolling required. It's actually quicker to scroll using the regular version.

Also, on my Galaxy Ace (GT-S5830) the menu buttons are simply white circles (i.e. no icons), so I had to guess what they were for. Finally got to see what they're supposed to look like thanks to Lars_J's screenshots.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #36 on: 09/25/2013 09:16 PM »
Is there a "new" button on the mobile version?  I couldn't find it.

Click the 'menu' button (three horizontal lines stacked on top of each other) in the white circle in the top left corner, you'll find it there.

You may have the same problem as Garret, though, where some menu images are not loading.
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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #37 on: 09/27/2013 12:49 AM »
There is one IMO rather critical flaw in the Mobile version of the site - When you are in a forum thread, on the last page, the "next page" arrow still exists - BUT it takes you to the "All" view of the thread. (This may be because the combobox/drop-down that allows direct page access has the "All" entry as the last one)

BTW, If you want to see how the mobile site looks, click on the "Mobile" tiny link at the bottom of the page.

Can the "next page" link be removed when on the last page? Or remove the "All" option from the page list? It is a bit frustrating to never be sure if you actually are on a last page, and if you are, you get a whole LOT loaded when all of the posts are loaded.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #38 on: 11/28/2013 02:15 AM »
Just started using the mobile version and I wonder about Lars question. Sometimes when I'm at the last post in the thread I see the right arrow and get the behavior Lars mentions. Sometimes it works as I think it should where the next page arrow doesn't exist because you are at the last post. No clue why the different behavior for same situation of being on the last post of a thread.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #39 on: 11/28/2013 08:35 AM »
Just started using the mobile version and I wonder about Lars question. Sometimes when I'm at the last post in the thread I see the right arrow and get the behavior Lars mentions. Sometimes it works as I think it should where the next page arrow doesn't exist because you are at the last post. No clue why the different behavior for same situation of being on the last post of a thread.

Suspect it works same way as the main site, where "all" is only an option up to a certain maximum number of posts in the thread.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #40 on: 12/01/2013 02:13 PM »
I think I'd rather use the full version, especially on my ipad. Any way to select which one you want to use?

Yes, you can always switch back to the full site (button on bottom right), but I'm going to set the default for 'tablets' to the full site as soon as possible.

Tablets still default to the mobil version.  Is the plan still to change the default to the full version?

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #41 on: 12/01/2013 03:40 PM »
I think I'd rather use the full version, especially on my ipad. Any way to select which one you want to use?

Yes, you can always switch back to the full site (button on bottom right), but I'm going to set the default for 'tablets' to the full site as soon as possible.

Tablets still default to the mobil version.  Is the plan still to change the default to the full version?

I'll remind Mark and report back.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #42 on: 12/01/2013 03:44 PM »
I think I'd rather use the full version, especially on my ipad. Any way to select which one you want to use?

Yes, you can always switch back to the full site (button on bottom right), but I'm going to set the default for 'tablets' to the full site as soon as possible.

Tablets still default to the mobil version.  Is the plan still to change the default to the full version?

Please, no-o-o-o!

There is a button on the mobile version to switch to desktop.

Cheers, Martin

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #43 on: 12/01/2013 04:43 PM »
Also, and even more to the point, Android's *browser* has a "request desktop version of this site" option, IE switch to a different identifying string.

Why not use that if you want NSF to give you the desktop version on your tablet?

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #44 on: 12/01/2013 06:09 PM »
I have an iPad.  The desktop version is a VAST improvement over the Mobil version for this platform.  Using the button to switch is only a minor annoyance, but it's hard to imagine someone preferring the version that was designed for a tiny screen when you have a full tablet.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #45 on: 12/01/2013 06:29 PM »
I have an iPad.  The desktop version is a VAST improvement over the Mobil version for this platform.  Using the button to switch is only a minor annoyance, but it's hard to imagine someone preferring the version that was designed for a tiny screen when you have a full tablet.

Is it an iPad mini?

If not, please try that (non HD version if those are available yet), then report back.  ;)

I have a 7" tablet with 1024x768 screen. Mobile version is a *vast* improvement on that.

According to the user agent options available to my Android browser, my user agent is separate from that for iPad. Maybe OK to switch the experience for iPad users - (though not sure if that might annoy iPad mini users!!)

cheers, Martin

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #46 on: 12/01/2013 09:18 PM »
Whatever happened to the days where people browsed the internet on a nice meaty PC? Kinda funny as when I go the train, everyone's got a iPad or such. Not me, out comes the trusty Dell brick! ;D

(PS If someone buys me an iPad I'll say it's the greatest thing ever ;))

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #47 on: 12/02/2013 02:39 AM »
Laying in bed with a keyboard, mouse and monitor would not be fun.   ;)   I took a chance on buying an iPad for fear that it would end up joining my dust collecting laptop, but I'm totally addicted.  That's probably not a good thing.

PS.  I have a third gen full iPad.  I don't get what the point of the mini is.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #48 on: 12/02/2013 04:19 AM »
A 7" tablet can fit into a woman's purse.  A 10" cannot.

Personally I don't get tablets at all.  Both my wife and I use our phones as tablets.  They're more flexible since they have cell connections and can be used as phones and they can be with you all the time.  Two less things for me to buy, maintain and upgrade.  And when I need more than I can do on my phone, a tablet wouldn't work either, so I use the laptop a lot.

NSF is fine either way on my phone.  Still miss a "my topics" function but it's not on either version anyway.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #49 on: 12/02/2013 07:43 AM »
Personally I don't get tablets at all.  Both my wife and I use our phones as tablets.  They're more flexible since they have cell connections and can be used as phones and they can be with you all the time.  Two less things for me to buy, maintain and upgrade.

My tablet has 3G and full voice calling. It's basically a 7" phone / phablet. No separate phone so "one less thing for me to buy and maintain", too.

While I usually use a Bluetooth headset for the actual calls, it will do the 80's "brick to the side of the head" in an emergency.

This feature is available on Galaxy Tabs and Notes, and Asus Fonepad.

Cheers, Martin

PS Part of the reason you don't get tablets may be the experience of trying to use desktop websites on a screen which is too small, and designed for precise mouse clicking instead of pudgy finger tapping. ;)
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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #50 on: 12/02/2013 08:40 AM »
Nobody, myself included, gets tablets until you have one.
Then you find out that they are better to read stuff than your full-scale computer which is definitely not true for a phone, no matter of the size, and all of the sudden your perspective on how you use stuff starts to change.

I bought my first iPad for development only and thought "he, I'm never really going to use this thing myself". Biggest misconception ever.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #51 on: 01/01/2014 05:24 PM »
L2 bug... In the mobile browser, when you're on the last page in a public thread at the bottom you'll see the back arrow to the left of the page number selector. When you're on the last page in an L2 thread, you'll see the back arrow, the page number selector, and then the forward arrow. Pressing forward takes you to page 1. I like the first style better as you'll know it's the end of the thread.

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« Reply #52 on: 01/20/2014 09:35 PM »
The bug still exists, and only in L2... Public side is fine.

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« Reply #53 on: 03/13/2014 05:32 AM »
I have been using, and greatly enjoying, the mobile version on my iPad - but you've evidently reverted to the desktop version as default for tablets. If there is a place to request the mobile version, it is incredibly well hidden! Please, how about a large and obvious button (like the one that said "use desktop version" when in mobile format) that lets us choose to default to the (vastly superior, IMHO) mobile version?

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« Reply #54 on: 03/13/2014 07:50 AM »
I have been using, and greatly enjoying, the mobile version on my iPad - but you've evidently reverted to the desktop version as default for tablets. If there is a place to request the mobile version, it is incredibly well hidden! Please, how about a large and obvious button (like the one that said "use desktop version" when in mobile format) that lets us choose to default to the (vastly superior, IMHO) mobile version?

It's a small link at the *very* bottom of the page (one of 4, IIRC).

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #55 on: 03/13/2014 10:51 AM »
I'm using Tapatalk and in many cases quotes are broken. The oute most opening quote is replaced with a "dummyquote" word.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #56 on: 03/13/2014 12:10 PM »
I'm using Tapatalk and in many cases quotes are broken. The oute most opening quote is replaced with a "dummyquote" word.

BTW, there is a separate thread for Tapatalk.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #57 on: 12/15/2014 09:12 AM »
I'm having an issue with the mobile version of the site via Android Chrome (39.0.2171.93) on a Galaxy Note 8.0 (N5120) running Android 4.4.2 . If I try to reply to a thread, the text box is greyed out, and not editable. This makes it impossible to post from the mobile theme. It's been like this for some time, TBH.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7d3jzidvi7vaq3t/2014-12-15%2009.48.50.png?dl=0

It seems to work from Firefox Android (34.0) on this device.


It also seems to work OK on my phone (Galaxy Grand Duos, I9082), on Android 4.2.2. This is running exactly the same version of Chrome, so my first hunch is this is somehow related to Android 4.4 over 4.2.



I'm not really sure that the text box looks right when it's greyed out. I'd perhaps expect this to have a white background if it can take user input. Not sure if this is related in some way to the issue I'm having?

Cheers, Martin

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #58 on: 12/15/2014 02:08 PM »
My problem is more of an annoyance:

My Android tablet stays logged on and I have no problems.
My Android phone requires me to log on every time (even though I click the "stay logged on" switch)

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #59 on: 12/15/2014 08:09 PM »
You should always remember to mention what browser you are using. Remember that Google isn't supporting the default Android Browser anymore (the one which can be named as Internet or Browser by hardware vendor).  Use whatever works, I recommend Opera.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #60 on: 12/15/2014 08:23 PM »
I recommend Chrome on any device/OS

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #61 on: 12/16/2014 06:58 AM »
Yeah, that's exactly the browser that has the issue for me.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #62 on: 12/16/2014 07:04 AM »
Tapatalk has just released a new version that has absolutely destroyed its functionality. It's just absolutely shocking,  and their devs are clearly a bunch of utter idiots (I'm self-censoring here).

Heads up - expect a lot more traffic on this theme!

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #63 on: 01/05/2015 02:27 PM »
Dumb question, Chris feel free to delete/move/answer. On my android 4.4.2 SCH-I545 Build / KOT49H Chrome 39.0.2171.93 I accidentally clicked the view full site button and now can no longer get back to the mobile version. Anyone know how to get back to the mobile version? It grows on you, but I kinda like it better when using the phone.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #64 on: 01/05/2015 02:35 PM »
Dumb question, Chris feel free to delete/move/answer. On my android 4.4.2 SCH-I545 Build / KOT49H Chrome 39.0.2171.93 I accidentally clicked the view full site button and now can no longer get back to the mobile version. Anyone know how to get back to the mobile version? It grows on you, but I kinda like it better when using the phone.

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Click the Mobile tab at the very bottom of the full-verision & that should put back to mobile

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #65 on: 01/05/2015 03:38 PM »
Click the Mobile tab at the very bottom of the full-verision & that should put back to mobile
Thanks,

Broke out the microscope and finally found it. It is tiny text at the bottom of the screen. I was looking for a button or something equivalent. Completely missed the text.
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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #66 on: 01/05/2015 04:44 PM »
Heh! That really did require three arrows! We'll look at solving that, especially as we need to make it (c) 2015 on the site tags.

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« Reply #67 on: 01/05/2015 06:02 PM »
Doh! Just reminded me I need to do the annual updating of copyrights on my projects.
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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #68 on: 01/09/2015 11:24 PM »
Heh! That really did require three arrows! We'll look at solving that, especially as we need to make it (c) 2015 on the site tags.

If you come to NSF on a mobile browser, that browser identifies itself to the server, and the mobile version of the site is rendered.

On Android, the three browsers that I use (Chrome, Firefox, and  "Internet") all have an option where they can override the default and instead "request desktop site", or similar. Unfortunately, NSF's mobile theme ignores the "hey, give me the desktop site" request, and gives the mobile version again.

It would be a superb usability enhancement if this could switch over to the desktop theme, and back again.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #69 on: 01/11/2015 06:15 AM »
Heh! That really did require three arrows! We'll look at solving that, especially as we need to make it (c) 2015 on the site tags.

If you come to NSF on a mobile browser, that browser identifies itself to the server, and the mobile version of the site is rendered.

On Android, the three browsers that I use (Chrome, Firefox, and  "Internet") all have an option where they can override the default and instead "request desktop site", or similar. Unfortunately, NSF's mobile theme ignores the "hey, give me the desktop site" request, and gives the mobile version again.

It would be a superb usability enhancement if this could switch over to the desktop theme, and back again.

Cheers, Martin

I'm currently using a new (to me) Kindle Fire HD, which is replacing my three year old Kindle Fire.  Both tablets use a version of the special Kindle edition of Android, with the old Fire using an older version of it.  Its proprietary browser is called Silk.  With Silk on the new Fire HD, I got an initial offer (read more like a requirement) to download and use Tapatalk to access the forums.  Took two tries to convince it I didn't want to install Tapatalk.  It then displayed the mobile version of the site, but near the bottom of the mobile version's home page there was a link labeled "View full site".  This brought up the regular full site I can see on my desktop PC, and it operates exactly like the site operates on my PC using Chrome under Win7.

Now if I could only get Silk to run Flash Player, I'd be a very happy.camper, as there area number of websites I enjoy that require Flash (not the least of which is the NASA TV streaming video functions).  But, except for the wording of the Tapatalk offer dialog, which really made it sound like you couldn't use the site any other way, I'm finding the full site works quite well through Silk.

I hope that is useful data for y'all.
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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #70 on: 01/11/2015 09:06 AM »


It then displayed the mobile version of the site, but near the bottom of the mobile version's home page there was a link labeled "View full site".  This brought up the regular full site I can see on my desktop PC, and it operates exactly like the site operates on my PC using Chrome under Win7.

This is the link highlighted in post #66.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #71 on: 01/11/2015 05:51 PM »
Yeah, I wasn't focused on the full site link.  I was able to find that fairly easily.  I was more trying to document the process I saw when I first accessed the site on my new Kindle.  The only glitch, if you want to call it that, I found in the process was how aggressively it was pushing me to use Tapatalk, to the point of acting like it didn't believe me when I tried to tell it I didn't want to use it.

Nothing aggravates me more than software that refuses to believe I don't want to use (or especially purchase) it.  That is, to my mind, an unethical marketing ploy, and unless I find that i have been given absolutely no choice, I will put products presented in that fashion onto my "never, ever use" list.  Tell me why it's to my advantage to use your product, don't try to strong-arm me into using it, or worse, lie to me and tell me I have no choice.  I always have a choice, and pushing me like that almost guarantees my choice will not favor your product.
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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #72 on: 01/11/2015 08:33 PM »
I have scrolling issues on my ipad mini, default safari browser.

When I start scrolling, nothing happens for first half or one second. Only then it starts scrolling.
But my finger has already moved halfway thorugh the screen and I can only scroll very little amount at time.

NSF mobile version is the _only site_ where I have this kind of problems. The full version of the site works without problems.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #73 on: 04/28/2015 04:23 PM »
L2 bug... In the mobile browser, when you're on the last page in a public thread at the bottom you'll see the back arrow to the left of the page number selector. When you're on the last page in an L2 thread, you'll see the back arrow, the page number selector, and then the forward arrow. Pressing forward takes you to page 1. I like the first style better as you'll know it's the end of the thread.

It's not just L2, it just depends on how many pages there are in the thread, once you get past a certain page number it stops showing the 'all' option.

But when the 'all' option is available, the mobile site shows the 'next page' arrow, and there is no way of knowing if hitting that will take you to the next page or to all pages.

PLEASE PLEASE take the 'next page' arrow out of the mobile site when 'next' means 'all', (I rarely use the 'all' option, but if it must be there, please make it look different).

I understand the problem is that the logic that renders the next arrow just sees that there is another entry in the paging dropdown, perhaps the simplest solution would be to remove the 'all' option from the dropdown, just make it a separate link when available, (there is plenty of room for "Go to page:", 'prev', dropdown, 'next' - and 'all' when available.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #74 on: 06/20/2015 04:39 PM »
I just began encountering this problem in recent days.  When I try to access the Forum on my iPhone 5 via. Safari browser, it won't open and gives an error "Safari cannot open the page because too many redirects occurred".  Forum still works on Firefox via. laptop.  I was always able to open the Forum on Safari before.  I haven't done any recent updates, etc. 

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #75 on: 01/13/2016 10:42 AM »
I'm having an issue with the mobile version of the site via Android Chrome (39.0.2171.93) on a Galaxy Note 8.0 (N5120) running Android 4.4.2 . If I try to reply to a thread, the text box is greyed out, and not editable. This makes it impossible to post from the mobile theme. It's been like this for some time, TBH.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7d3jzidvi7vaq3t/2014-12-15%2009.48.50.png?dl=0

It seems to work from Firefox Android (34.0) on this device.


It also seems to work OK on my phone (Galaxy Grand Duos, I9082), on Android 4.2.2. This is running exactly the same version of Chrome, so my first hunch is this is somehow related to Android 4.4 over 4.2.



I'm not really sure that the text box looks right when it's greyed out. I'd perhaps expect this to have a white background if it can take user input. Not sure if this is related in some way to the issue I'm having?

Cheers, Martin

Oh, BTW, this is still not working on my tablet 13 months later.

Can't reply via the mobile theme because the text box is greyed out and won't accept input from the keyboard.

Cheers, Martin

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #76 on: 01/17/2016 11:18 PM »
Well, for lack of a better place to put it, I thought I'd put it here. Hello from your latest member. I'm Ya'akov, from Sioux City, IA. Just thought I'd greet you all. Please note that I have a tablet, a Kindle, & a Basic Phone using the WAP2 interface. If you go to the bottom of the page & click on the small word "WAP2", you'll switch your computer to see how primitive it is. It also has character/space limits, hence the need for me to abbreviate & use symbols. Also, long posts may take 2 or more entries. Also note that I'm on a phone keypad, so answers do take a bit of time. But it is great to be here. Mostly I shall be on my phone rather than my tablet or Kindle. My computer died after serving a good life. Now when I need 1 I use my wife's, but not for social stuff like this. Anyway, hello. Good to meet all of you!

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #77 on: 05/26/2017 09:19 AM »
No matter what I do, I can't get my logins to stick on the mobile site. "always stay logged in" or setting "stay logged in for" to some gigantic number do nothing and I find myself logged out after a few hours of inactivity.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #78 on: 05/26/2017 12:28 PM »
Sounds like your cookie settings, Crispy.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #79 on: 06/02/2017 09:09 PM »
Hi team, today on android chrome I get session has expired & won't let me login on mobile, I cleared cache & cookies  & still same issues, I ended up  going to full site & login in, that works, & went back to mobile

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« Reply #80 on: 06/03/2017 12:10 PM »
Not sure. I logged in on my iphone 6 in safari without issue. Could be some external tapatalk issue? I did notice that for once I didn't get that annoying "do you want tapatalk" message. If it is, it's to do with tapatalk not us and out of our control.

What I'd say for this thread is anyone having issues, always add their device/OS and Browser - so there's an ability (based on others having the same) to try and duplicate an issue.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #81 on: 06/03/2017 07:27 PM »
Not sure. I logged in on my iphone 6 in safari without issue. Could be some external tapatalk issue? I did notice that for once I didn't get that annoying "do you want tapatalk" message. If it is, it's to do with tapatalk not us and out of our control.

What I'd say for this thread is anyone having issues, always add their device/OS and Browser - so there's an ability (based on others having the same) to try and duplicate an issue.
Chris to add: it really helps to also know version and build of device operating system and browser app version because based on experience, versions will display different problems that may not exist on another version.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #82 on: 06/04/2017 02:29 AM »
No problem,  if this helps any one
Here's yours: Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 6.0.1; SAMSUNG-SM-J320A Build/MMB29K) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/58.0.3029.83 Mobile Safari/537.36

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #83 on: 06/04/2017 09:44 AM »
I just got an Android tablet (Galaxy Tab S2 8.0). I noticed the same issue logging in with both Chrome and Samsung's browser. The error message is "Your session timed out while posting. Please go back and try again." The problem happens even with a clean cache and cleared off cookies. I had to request the desktop site to log in. From there, I could switch back to the mobile site.

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Re: Mobile version of NSF
« Reply #84 on: 06/04/2017 03:19 PM »
I'm having the same issue logging in on my mobile. Android 7.1.2 Chrome 58.0.3029.83

I have tried:
1. logging in as normal
2. deleting browser history
3. incognito mode
4. request as desktop site

All of the above fail with the same error reported above.

I have just been to europe and did notice my browse still showing me cookie banners and wondered if that was relevant. I mention this because when I went to bloomberg it took me to the europe subsite even though I am back in canada.

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« Reply #85 on: 06/04/2017 03:19 PM »
So that's rounding it down to Android/Chrome it seems? All tapatalk, or not, by the way?

I wonder if there's actually anything Mark can do (they always say if you change something it could impact on everyone else).

Good temp solution with the full site and back to mobile. Nicely noted.

And of course we are going to have a new (proper) mobile site before long, which will be beta tested on all devices/OS and browsers.

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I have made Mark aware in case there is something he can do.

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« Reply #86 on: 06/06/2017 03:12 AM »
Good temp solution with the full site and back to mobile. Nicely noted.

Based on discussion with Chris today, I can confirm that works for me as well.

Maybe I am just dense but it took me a while to figure out how to go back to "mobile theme" from the full site. Therefore, in case it helps someone else who is stuck with this, here are the more detailed steps. If it is obvious to you then just ignore this post please.

Issue: Using the mobile theme on your phone and on login, you see
> An Error has occured! Your session timed out while posting. Please go back and try again.

Steps:
- on the mobile themed error page, select the "full site" button, lower right, to go to "full site"
- select "login" on the full site,  and login as usual. It is option #5, row #2 from the top.
- I did confirm the "this site uses cookies" popup as well.
- after login, go to forum home page again
- scroll down to the very bottom and look for the very very last line on the page.
- in tiny tiny letters, it says "mobile" as 3rd link.
- select the "mobile" and voila, you are in the mobile theme again, logged in and ready to go!



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« Reply #87 on: 06/06/2017 05:57 PM »
OK, Mark's done some coding. Can you all check it's back to normal mobile log in for all?

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« Reply #88 on: 06/06/2017 07:28 PM »
I can confirm that logging in works from the mobile page now.

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« Reply #89 on: 06/06/2017 07:57 PM »
OK, Mark's done some coding. Can you all check it's back to normal mobile log in for all?

It now works now, thanks Mark & Chris

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« Reply #90 on: 06/24/2017 10:04 PM »
Question: when I use the in browser feature  (white blue and grey interface) it suffers from this feature where when typing long messages it scrolls back up to the top of message EVERY key I press. Is there a way to disable this? Would happily not use tapatalk if there was a way around this.

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« Reply #91 on: 06/25/2017 12:18 AM »
Tested that on my phone, Android 7.something,latest Opera and Chrome. Couldn't make that happen. How long message would it have to be?

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« Reply #92 on: 06/25/2017 12:34 AM »
Enough to take up the entire region above the keyboard, like what you would see with a few nested quotes.
I'm on a Samaung Galaxy S5 Neo with Android 6.0.1. Chrome 58.0.3029.83

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