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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #20 on: 09/18/2013 05:02 AM »
I think Soheil is correct. Kavoshgar 5 uses a Class C solid fueled launcher, based on the Zelzal missile. Photos indicate a failed Kavoshgar 5 launch on 8 September 2012, but clearly using a Class C launcher.
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Re: Iranian launch shedule
« Reply #21 on: 10/07/2013 08:06 PM »

Completed launches

Date - Satellite(s) - Rocket - Launch Site - Time (UTC)


2008.08.17 - (?) - Safir-1 - Semnan - test
2009.02.02 - Omid - Safir-1 (2) - Semnan - 18:34
2011.06.15 - Rasad - Safir-1A - Semnan - 9:15:03
2012.02.03 - Navid Elm-o-Sana't - Safir-1B - Semnan - 00:04
2012.05.23 - Fajr #1 - Safir-1B - Semnan - launch failure
2012.09.22 - Fajr #2 - Safir-1B - Semnan - launch failure
2013.02.17-18 - Fajr #3 - Safir-1B - Semnan - launch failure ( the payload injected too early )

Planned launches

Date - Satellite(s) - Rocket - Launch Site - Time (UTC)

2013

NET 2nd quarter - Tadbir - Safir-1B - Semnan

2014
TBD - Sharif - Safir-1B - Semnan
TBD - Fajr - Safir-1B - Semnan
TBD - Nahid - Safir-1B - Semnan
TBD - Tolou - Simorgh - Semnan
TBD - Zafar - Simorgh - Semnan
TBD - AutSat (A Test, Amir Kabir-1, RU300) - Simorgh - Semnan
TBD - Mesbah-2 - Simorgh - Semnan

2015
TBD - Pars 2 - TBD - TBD
2015 - IranSat 1 - Simorgh - Semnan

2016
2016 - Pars sepehr - Safir-3A (Qoqnoos/Sepehr) - TBD

2017
TBD - IranSat 2 - Safir-3A (Qoqnoos/Sepehr) - TBD

2018
TBD - IranSat 3 - Safir-3B (?) (Sarir)  - chabahar
TBD - manned launch (suborbital) - TBD - chabahar

Unclear:
TBD - Masud 2 & Rasad 2 - Simorgh - Semnan
TBD - Ayaat - TBD - TBD
TBD - Saar - TBD - TBD
2019-2024 - manned launch (orbital) - TBD - chabahar


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Re: Iranian launch shedule
« Reply #22 on: 11/01/2013 03:10 PM »

Completed launches

Date - Satellite(s) - Rocket - Launch Site - Time (UTC)


2008.08.17 - (?) - Safir-1 - Semnan - test
2009.02.02 - Omid - Safir-1 (2) - Semnan - 18:34
2011.06.15 - Rasad - Safir-1A - Semnan - 9:15:03
2012.02.03 - Navid Elm-o-Sana't - Safir-1B - Semnan - 00:04
2012.05.23 - Fajr #1 - Safir-1B - Semnan - launch failure
2012.09.22 - Fajr #2 - Safir-1B - Semnan - launch failure
2013.02.17-18 - Fajr #3 - Safir-1B - Semnan - launch failure ( the payload injected too early )

Planned launches

Date - Satellite(s) - Rocket - Launch Site - Time (UTC)

2013

NET 2nd quarter - Sharif - Safir-1B - Semnan

2014
TBD - Tadbir - Safir-1B - Semnan
TBD - Fajr - Safir-1B - Semnan
TBD - Nahid - Safir-1B - Semnan
TBD - Tolou - Simorgh - Semnan
TBD - Zafar - Simorgh - Semnan
TBD - AutSat (A Test, Amir Kabir-1, RU300) - Simorgh - Semnan
TBD - Mesbah-2 - Simorgh - Semnan

2015
TBD - Pars 2 - TBD - TBD
2015 - IranSat 1 - Simorgh - Semnan

2016
2016 - Pars sepehr - Safir-3A (Qoqnoos/Sepehr) - TBD

2017
TBD - IranSat 2 - Safir-3A (Qoqnoos/Sepehr) - TBD

2018
TBD - IranSat 3 - Safir-3B (?) (Sarir)  - chabahar
TBD - manned launch (suborbital) - TBD - chabahar

Unclear:
TBD - Masud 2 & Rasad 2 - Simorgh - Semnan
TBD - Ayaat - TBD - TBD
TBD - Saar - TBD - TBD
2019-2024 - manned launch (orbital) - TBD - chabahar
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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #23 on: 11/01/2013 03:17 PM »
So all the three rumored launch failures were really orbital launch attempts?  ;)
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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #24 on: 11/01/2013 05:30 PM »
And the first launch was definitely a test flight, rather than an orbital attempt?

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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #25 on: 11/08/2013 07:27 PM »
And the first launch was definitely a test flight, rather than an orbital attempt?

I've seen no evidence at all to support that theory. Everything I have seen points to an orbital attempt.

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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #26 on: 11/08/2013 09:01 PM »
And the first launch was definitely a test flight, rather than an orbital attempt?

I've seen no evidence at all to support that theory. Everything I have seen points to an orbital attempt.

Agreed - that is why I was querying the status of the launch in the above launch listing.

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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #27 on: 11/13/2013 12:28 PM »
And the first launch was definitely a test flight, rather than an orbital attempt?

I've seen no evidence at all to support that theory. Everything I have seen points to an orbital attempt.

Agreed - that is why I was querying the status of the launch in the above launch listing.

the payload was a dummy !

what does it mean !?
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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #28 on: 11/14/2013 12:24 PM »
the payload was a dummy !

Do you have any evidence to support that assertion? Iran may have claimed that it was a suborbital launch or a dummy payload, but I'm afraid all the evidence suggests it was a failed orbital launch with a live payload.

In the days and weeks leading up to the launch, there were various releases that claimed the launch of Omid was imminent. After the failure it suddenly slipped - exactly the same pattern seen with the Fajr failures.

Iranian rocket names include the name of the satellite they are launching. Safir-e-Rasad launched Rasad, Navid was launched by Safir-e-Navid. The rocket used for the August 2008 launch was "Safir-e-Omid", so logic would dictate that it was carrying Omid. The rocket used for the February 2009 launch was called "Safir-e-Omid 2" - essentially acknowledging this.
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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #29 on: 11/14/2013 05:51 PM »
the payload was a dummy !

Do you have any evidence to support that assertion? Iran may have claimed that it was a suborbital launch or a dummy payload, but I'm afraid all the evidence suggests it was a failed orbital launch with a live payload.

In the days and weeks leading up to the launch, there were various releases that claimed the launch of Omid was imminent. After the failure it suddenly slipped - exactly the same pattern seen with the Fajr failures.

Iranian rocket names include the name of the satellite they are launching. Safir-e-Rasad launched Rasad, Navid was launched by Safir-e-Navid. The rocket used for the August 2008 launch was "Safir-e-Omid", so logic would dictate that it was carrying Omid. The rocket used for the February 2009 launch was called "Safir-e-Omid 2" - essentially acknowledging this.

Omid !?
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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #30 on: 11/15/2013 07:35 PM »
soheil jan , can u tell me why we have still the fajr satellite on the launch row ?

i mean , if the launch has failed and they still have the sattelite ready for launch there is 2 theories :

1- the satellite was recovered safely !

2- they built a new one

now as u have inside info  :P  which one is correct and the probable cause of both of the failures?
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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #31 on: 11/15/2013 08:06 PM »
Also, how do you know that the alleged February 2013 failure was due to the payload being ejected early?

about iran's launch failures my friend , i gotta tell u that the reason behind them is not just technical !

above technical issues , we are unfortunately encountering some ultra heavy jamming signals from you know where !

so the link between the sat and the command and control center is lost ====>launch failure .

still technical issues are a factor , for instance we had a little prob with the newly inaugurated launcher dubbed "simorgh" . the problem is solved and we are good to go.

abt the jamming signals , i think that is also taken care of for the new upcoming launchs .
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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #32 on: 11/17/2013 09:46 AM »
I thought it was against international law to interfere in the satellite launch of another country, unless the launch failed and the debris was heading towards someone.   Of course, the United States considers that international laws are for other people to follow.

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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #33 on: 11/17/2013 10:37 AM »
so the link between the sat and the command and control center is lost ====>launch failure .

That wouldn't cause a rocket to explode on the launch pad, as seen with one of the recent Safir failures.
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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #34 on: 11/17/2013 02:05 PM »
I thought it was against international law to interfere in the satellite launch of another country, unless the launch failed and the debris was heading towards someone.   Of course, the United States considers that international laws are for other people to follow.

unfortunately, you are 100% right . iran can also do that with the launched sats, but its not a good thing to do!

That wouldn't cause a rocket to explode on the launch pad, as seen with one of the recent Safir failures.

exactly mate ! with ONE of them .

which is not approved by the iranian space agency . that claim can also be challenged
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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #35 on: 11/18/2013 05:43 AM »
Since Safir is derived from a SRBM, I would expect it to have internal gyroscopes and computers and to not need any external signals to go into orbit. The only external signal would be for a self-destruct. Jamming would mean the Iranians could not be able to self-destruct their vehicle and foreign intelligence agencies would not be able to eaves drop on the telemetry coming from the vehicle. If there was jamming, I would expect the Iranians would be complaining very loudly at the UN.
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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #36 on: 11/21/2013 09:53 PM »
We will have an Iranian launch... in the coming days?

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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #37 on: 11/22/2013 06:59 AM »
Thanks Satori. New information is that Tadbir is to be launched by Safir-1B "in the coming days". Tadbir has

* highly advanced navigation and photography facilities
* equipped with devices that will check the effects of space on living organisms (this might be a radiation dosimeter)
* made by the Space Research Laboratory of Tehran Science and Technology University
* possible to capture images with higher precision compared to Navid
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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #38 on: 11/23/2013 01:48 PM »
so the link between the sat and the command and control center is lost ====>launch failure .

That wouldn't cause a rocket to explode on the launch pad, as seen with one of the recent Safir failures.

I would add that the Nodong engine that powers the Safir first stage suffers from combustion instabilities.  It is not a very reliable engine (which is why the Soviets discarded it in the first place).  Further, if Iran is using homemade versions of the Nodong engine, I would expect the reliability to be worse than the Soviet/Russian built engines.  Bottom line is that we should not be surprised to see so many failures of Nodong and Shahab-3 missiles, Safir and Unha launchers.

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Re: Iranian launch schedule
« Reply #39 on: 11/23/2013 03:38 PM »
Thanks Satori. New information is that Tadbir is to be launched by Safir-1B "in the coming days". Tadbir has

* highly advanced navigation and photography facilities
* equipped with devices that will check the effects of space on living organisms (this might be a radiation dosimeter)
* made by the Space Research Laboratory of Tehran Science and Technology University
* possible to capture images with higher precision compared to Navid
my friend in Egypt says that an arabic forum hints maybe a launch NET Monday 25 November 2013 at the earliest but he and I are questioning accuracy of that date.
« Last Edit: 11/23/2013 05:38 PM by russianhalo117 »

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