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Offline QuantumG

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Mars One Update Thread (yes, updates only!)
« on: 05/15/2013 09:48 AM »
MARCH 11th 2013, MarsOne contracted Paragon Space Development Corporation to perform a conceptual design study as the first step towards developing life support and space suits systems. They also acquired a Technical Assistance Agreement from the US state department (required by ITAR).

http://mars-one.com/en/mars-one-news/press-releases/11-news/380-mars-one-contracts-paragon-for-mars-life-support-systems

When you consider that Paragon is also the prime contractor for Inspiration Mars, this adds significant credibility.

Jeff Bezos has billions to spend on rockets and can go at whatever pace he likes! Wow! What pace is he going at? Well... have you heard of Zeno's paradox?

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Re: Mars One Update Thread (yes, updates only!)
« Reply #1 on: 05/15/2013 09:58 AM »
MAY 10th, 2013, Bas Lansdorp appeared on The Space Show.

http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2013/05/11/bas-lansdorp-of-mars-one-friday-5-10-13/

Quite a number of relevant technical questions were answered. Initial ground testing will commence at an arctic location, similar to the Flashline Mars Arctic Research Station. They intend to do crew selection in-house, but everything else, including hardware and production of the tv show, etc, will be done by contractors. There will be eight cargo launches, starting in 2016 and continuing to the first crew flight in 2022.
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Re: Mars One Update Thread (yes, updates only!)
« Reply #2 on: 08/10/2013 11:36 AM »
Watched the $3 54-minute "One Way Astronaut". It could be a $5 product if they didn't pad it with unqualified starry-eyed talking heads. Only two of the four applicants were even remotely qualified to talk about having a chance. One of those had specific skill sets remotely appropriate to the full panoply of rigorous physical and engineering expectations of someone who thinks they will walk on Mars and survive for an entire week. That person also carried the entire weight of self-reflection, clairvoyant sobriety and Faustian consequence. The rest - pfff. I don't believe I'd be able to sit through additional permutations of this with a ratio of 1 actual contender talking head to 3 time-padding talking heads. 2:2, maybe.

minute 14 the contender
minute 24 golden opportunity missed to properly represent Hohmann transfer orbit
minute 25 talking head with Paragon
minute 26 talking head Taber McCallum at Biosphere II talking plant growth per pressurized volume
minute 30 medical doctor Norbert Craft
minute 32 Hillary Downs, Ian Crowford on lava tubes v solar flares, cosmic rays; constant temp; search for life
minute 36 the contender
minute 43 space law guy keeping his job

http://www.mars-one.com/en/mars-one-news/press-releases/11-news/463-one-way-astronaut

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Re: Mars One Update Thread (yes, updates only!)
« Reply #3 on: 08/10/2013 03:49 PM »
SpaceX has updated their website and Falcon Heavy data.
Now announce 13200 kg to Mars, but do not give the price. If you give to LEO (from 77.1 to 135 million dollars). Doing the math with 135 (speculation ) I get to 10227 dollars / kg.
Considering 300000 or 400000 kg for the habitat, energy and greenhouses, and 30,000 kg for the capsule.
300000 * 10227 = 3068100000
400000 * 10227 = 4090800000
capsule  30t * 10227 = 306 810 000

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Re: Mars One Update Thread (yes, updates only!)
« Reply #4 on: 09/15/2013 07:15 PM »
Mars One press release: http://www.mars-one.com/en/mars-one-news/press-releases/11-news/500-over-200-000-apply-to-first-ever-recruitment-for-mars-settlement

Highlights:
First round of applications is over. Applicants from over 140 countries, but US had the most (24%). 

Three rounds of selection to narrow down applicants, those who passed the first round will be notified by the end of this year.

(They state that " Mars One received interest from 202,586 people", but there are 279 pages of videos @ 10 videos per page, so only about 1 in 72 people who started the process actually posted a video. Still, 2781 people should be plenty to choose from...)

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Re: Mars One Update Thread (yes, updates only!)
« Reply #5 on: 09/16/2013 02:47 AM »
http://www.mars-one.com/en/faq-en/21-faq-selection/204-how-will-the-astronauts-be-chosen
"At the end of round one, a team of Mars One experts will decide which applicants will pass to round two. ... Round 2: Candidates for round 2 will need to get a medical statement of good health from their physician."

Sounds like the "team of Mars One experts" will eliminate in the first round based on how much the applications do not meet up to "Five Key Characteristics of an Astronaut". Any remotely suspect are weeded out. Those above suspicion move on and get to see if their medical condition is good enough. (Sounds like.)
http://www.mars-one.com/en/faq-en/21-faq-selection/251-do-i-qualify-to-apply

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Re: Mars One Update Thread (yes, updates only!)
« Reply #6 on: 09/16/2013 03:18 AM »
That's what I heard too.
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Re: Mars One Update Thread (yes, updates only!)
« Reply #7 on: 12/12/2013 11:03 PM »
http://spacetoday.net/Summary/6170

Mars One announces study contracts for robotic precursor mission
Posted: Wed, Dec 11, 2013, 5:40 AM ET (1040 GMT)
A Dutch venture that seeks to send humans to Mars next decade on one-way missions announced contracts Tuesday with two major aerospace companies to study mission concepts for a robotic orbiter and lander. Lockheed Martin will examine designs for a robotic lander based on the same platform the company used for the Phoenix lander and upcoming InSight lander spacecraft for NASA. That spacecraft would be a technology demonstration mission and include student-designed experiments. Surrey Satellite Technology Limited will study concepts for a spacecraft placed in synchronous orbit around Mars to relay communications from the lander. Both spacecraft would be launched in 2018. Mars One declined to estimate the cost of the mission or how much it's raised, beyond that it is looking into various partnership and sponsorship opportunities. Mars One received thousands of applications from people interested in going to Mars on its first crewed mission in the 2020s, and plans to announce who made it through the first round of the selection process by the end of the year.



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Re: Mars One Update Thread (yes, updates only!)
« Reply #8 on: 01/03/2014 12:59 AM »
December 30 press release -- they've apparently done the first round of astronaut selection cuts, down to 1058 people...

http://www.mars-one.com/news/press-releases/mars-one-announces-round-2-astronaut-selection-results


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Re: Mars One Update Thread (yes, updates only!)
« Reply #9 on: 01/04/2014 10:14 AM »
This is few weeks old, but still relevant as there is 22 days for crowdfunding campaign left. $121 000 has already been collected, but there is still some way to go for $400k goal. It is very difficult to evaluate, if Mars One has enough wingpower to fly onto Mars, but I would estimate that they are on reasonable good track, considering that most of the people do not take them seriously.

Mars One - First Private Mars Mission in 2018
Mars One will establish a human settlement on Mars. You can participate in the first major step: a private Mars Lander and Satellite mission in 2018.
http://igg.me/at/marsone/x/5691149
« Last Edit: 01/05/2014 10:58 PM by rockinghorse »

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Re: Mars One Update Thread (yes, updates only!)
« Reply #10 on: 01/05/2014 04:35 PM »
From discussion thread:

Bas Lansdorp recently did a AMA on reddit, which did not go terribly well
EDIT:  and that link should totally be in the updates thread, after all it's officially posted by "I am Bas Lansdorp"

I agree. Warning: colorful comments in the AMA :o
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Re: Mars One Update Thread (yes, updates only!)
« Reply #11 on: 01/11/2014 07:38 PM »
A 7th January Via Satellite interview with Bas: Mars One Plans Two, Possibly Three Communications Satellites for the Red Planet

A /. poster summarised it thus:
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Mars One, the low-credibility effort to colonize Mars, is at least funding some interesting concept studies for their alleged plan to colonize the red planet. One of the most interesting is the effort to maintain uninterrupted communications with Mars. This is not as trivial as it may sound, as any satellite in Martian orbit will still have to deal with occultations between Mars and Earth due to the Sun. Surrey Satellite Technology will be performing the study.

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Re: Mars One Update Thread (yes, updates only!)
« Reply #12 on: 01/19/2014 02:46 PM »
Two satellites near the horizon but in areostationary orbit (Could also provide 2D GPS if combined with local atomic clock). Another at the Earth-Sun Lagrange point 4 or 5. Done.
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Re: Mars One Update Thread (yes, updates only!)
« Reply #13 on: 01/19/2014 04:59 PM »
Two satellites near the horizon but in areostationary orbit (Could also provide 2D GPS if combined with local atomic clock). Another at the Earth-Sun Lagrange point 4 or 5. Done.
AFAIK, a portable star tracker is enough for GPS on Mars. The atmosphere is thin and stable enough for good star position determinations. There is no need for an expensive constellation of satellites.

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Re: Mars One Update Thread (yes, updates only!)
« Reply #15 on: 01/23/2014 02:06 AM »
Mars One announced a book "Mars One: The Human Factor". They've added it to their Indiegogo perks and extended the Indiegogo crowdfunding two weeks, to February 9.

http://www.mars-one.com/news/press-releases/book-release-mars-one-the-human-factor
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/mars-one-first-private-mars-mission-in-2018?c=activity

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Re: Mars One Update Thread (yes, updates only!)
« Reply #16 on: 01/24/2014 09:37 PM »
Mars One announced a book "Mars One: The Human Factor". They've added it to their Indiegogo perks and extended the Indiegogo crowdfunding two weeks, to February 9.

http://www.mars-one.com/news/press-releases/book-release-mars-one-the-human-factor
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/mars-one-first-private-mars-mission-in-2018?c=activity

After six weeks they still were at only 50% of their goal. So now they've added two weeks to raise the other 50% (they're now at $213K out of a $400K goal).

One thing that I wonder about is the terms of their contracts with Surrey and Lockheed Martin. Presumably they paid something up front, with an agreement to pay more for progress and upon delivery. So maybe 25% up front, 50% after two months (or delivery of an interim report) and the remainder upon completion. But does Mars One have enough money on hand to pay the entire cost of the contracts? If I was one of the contractors, I'd really like to know that ahead of time. I wouldn't want to start doing the work and then discover that Mars One lacks money to pay for it because their Indiegogo campaign fell short.
« Last Edit: 01/24/2014 09:38 PM by Blackstar »

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Re: Mars One Update Thread (yes, updates only!)
« Reply #17 on: 01/27/2014 11:03 AM »
MARCH 11th 2013, MarsOne contracted Paragon Space Development Corporation to perform a conceptual design study as the first step towards developing life support and space suits systems. They also acquired a Technical Assistance Agreement from the US state department (required by ITAR).

http://mars-one.com/en/mars-one-news/press-releases/11-news/380-mars-one-contracts-paragon-for-mars-life-support-systems

When you consider that Paragon is also the prime contractor for Inspiration Mars, this adds significant credibility.

Mars One is raising money for a new design study, but what happened to the first one? It's been ten months since it was announced, and it was supposed to be ready in august. Any updates?

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Re: Mars One Update Thread (yes, updates only!)
« Reply #18 on: 02/10/2014 01:54 AM »
As of Feb 8, they are saying they have raised $290,000.

I sure hope the Indiegogo funds aren't their only sources of funding.

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Re: Mars One Update Thread (yes, updates only!)
« Reply #19 on: 02/10/2014 07:45 AM »

According to the mail they sent when the fundraiser ended:

Quote from: Bas Lansdorp
So far, we have raised an impressive 290,000 dollars. As a community, we’ve actually raised more money during this two-month campaign than we raised from private donations over the past two years.

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