Author Topic: Aug.8 STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread  (Read 31854 times)

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I think it's pretty much the best time to set this thread up. Discovery has RCS Thruster checks and Flight Control Systems in general. This has started now with APU Checks.

Please post anything you hear and pictures of interest as all being well they'll always be someone on this thread to update in-between my downtime for various reasons.

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Seems they are going to split screen on some views.

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Eileen is having some issues getting some of the switches to OFF on the Flight Deck. One took 10 seconds of pulling  :o

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Collins hooking up a laptop to Discovery's flight systems to help generate some random landing senarios for Discovery to work over.

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Incidently, we've acquired some brilliant quotes from none other than Buzz Aldrin, supporting the Shuttle and noting his wish to see the CEV come in to take NASA to the next stage...out of LEO (which the Shuttles are bounded by - Low Earth Orbit).


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Ladies and Gentlemen, guess who's back at the Flight Director Desk!

Only Mr Leroy Cain!!!!

I really felt for that guy during Columbia's break up on the video that filmed him during those last moments. (I can't believe they kept filming when he had his head in his hands). One hell of a moving video to see people's reactions.

He's back and it's great to see him!!! The man has some balls.

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Nice view of the back of Discovery's flight deck. Non of the fancy screens etc at this end of her, but cool all the same.

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Errrrrrrrm  :o

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Do you love this guy or do you love this guy. Basically, I love this guy.

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?id=3433

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #10 on: 08/07/2005 06:00 AM »
Flight control checks complete and all green. Small break for the crew, then some media interviews where they'll no doubt be asked stupid questions by stupid journalists who will have already written their "Crew shitting themselves about re-entry" bollocks.

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #11 on: 08/07/2005 06:04 AM »
Nice view of the southern pacific, just south of New Zealand. Wave Tahii, wave!

Pic one is to the west of NZ, south of south island. No idea if you can make it out. was pretty much bang on the area with the tracking. Second image is when they kindly changed the damn angle :(


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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #12 on: 08/07/2005 06:06 AM »
Aldrin rules. What a guy. Legend!

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #13 on: 08/07/2005 06:12 AM »
Right, time for some shut-eye to get in the right sleep zone for re-entry. Anyone is welcome to post images to this thread and any news updates you hear.

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #14 on: 08/07/2005 07:11 AM »
Good luck Discovery. Hope someone knows how to add NASA TV feed images as I don't.

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #15 on: 08/07/2005 10:29 AM »
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Nice view of the southern pacific, just south of New Zealand. Wave Tahii, wave!
I waved! Trust me on that!

According to the sightings java program on spaceflight.nasa.gov, I won't be able to see the Shuttle again, until Wednesday or so, when it goes over again - Ha!

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #16 on: 08/07/2005 12:08 PM »
Great article on Buzz Aldrin Chris.  Here's a shot of Leroy at the Mission Status Briefing.

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #17 on: 08/07/2005 12:28 PM »
From CBS News Coverage of Mission STS-114
http://cbsnews.cbs.com/network/news/space/current.html

"The weather appeared ideal and while there is a slight chance of off-shore rain in Monday's forecast, conditions are expected to be similar.

Assuming the forecast holds up, Collins plans to fire Discovery's twin orbital maneuvering system braking rockets for three minutes and 12 seconds starting at 3:39:43 a.m. Monday, slowing the ship by 220 mph and dropping the far side of its orbit deep into the atmosphere over Florida's East Coast.

Flying along a southwest-to-northeast trajectory, Discovery will pass above Central America, the Gulf of Mexico and the west coast of Florida near Tampa as it glides toward touchdown at the Kennedy Space Center. Landing is expected around 4:46:44 a.m. Monday, closing out a 13-day voyaging spanning 5.3 million miles and 201 complete orbits since blastoff July 26.

Because the forecast for California's Edwards Air Force Base is good for several days, entry flight director LeRoy Cain does not plan to activate the backup landing site Monday and will focus instead on getting Discovery back on the ground in Florida.

Along with costing about $5 million in added work, a landing in California would eliminate any chance of launching the next shuttle mission in late September even if NASA solves its external tank foam problem. The shuttle Atlantis only has a four-day launch window and if Discovery is diverted to California, workers likely would not have enough time to prepare that shuttle for launch on a possible rescue mission.

In any case, Collins and company have two Florida landing opportunities Monday, one at 4:47 a.m. and the other one orbit later at 6:22 a.m.

"We're just calling up KSC for tomorrow," astronaut Ken Ham radioed Discovery from mission control early today. "So barring any unforeseen failures, that's all we're looking at for tomorrow. The weather at the Cape, the official forecast is few (clouds) at 2,500 (feet), few at 10,000, scattered at 25,000 with good visibility. The winds are light and pretty much variable, mostly out of the west-northwest. There is a call out for a slight chance of rain showers within 30 (nautical miles) and those are mostly out over the Gulf stream and fairly light.

"The weather for tomorrow should be fairly similar to what we saw today and the day prior. If you were to have come home today, you would have been go for the deorbit burn. So we're looking like a pretty favorable condition for the Cape tomorrow. Additionally, for weather out west, Edwards looks good for now and for the foreseeable future, for the next few days anyway, looks fairly good in case we need to go that direction for Tuesday."

"We can't think of any questions," Collins replied. "Sounds like really great weather."

"Yeah, we're looking forward to it."

If the weather or some other problem blocks both Monday opportunities, Cain will keep Discovery in orbit an extra day, activate the backup landing site at Edwards and bring the ship down on one coast or the other Tuesday.

Here are all possible landing times for Monday through Wednesday, including targets for White Sands, N.M. (in EDT)


ORBIT...SITE....TIG..............LANDING

Monday, Aug. 8

201.....Kennedy Space Center.....03:40 AM.....04:47 AM
202.....Kennedy Space Center.....05:15 AM.....06:22 AM

Tuesday, Aug. 9

217.....Kennedy Space Center.....04:05 AM.....05:08 AM
218.....White Sands, N.M.........05:37 AM.....06:39 AM
218.....Kennedy Space Center.....05:41 AM.....06:43 AM
219.....Edwards AFB..............07:11 AM.....08:13 AM
219.....White Sands, N.M.........07:13 AM.....08:14 AM
220.....Edwards AFB..............08:47 AM.....09:48 AM

Wednesday, Aug. 10

232.....Kennedy Space Center.....02:50 AM.....03:53 AM
233.....Kennedy Space Center.....04:25 AM.....05:28 AM
234.....Edwards AFB..............05:55 AM.....06:58 AM
234.....White Sands, N.M.........05:57 AM.....06:59 AM
235.....Edwards AFB..............07:31 AM.....08:32 AM
235.....White Sands, N.M.........07:33 AM.....08:34 AM"

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #18 on: 08/07/2005 12:51 PM »
Here are the ground tracks for Monday's two opportunities.


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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #20 on: 08/07/2005 02:40 PM »
I'm very nervous about all of this.

Great article on the Buzz man, he's a true hero and a great man. Speaking of which, Leroy Cain. Wow. What a great day this will be for him to bring a Shuttle home.
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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #22 on: 08/07/2005 03:32 PM »
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I'm very nervous about all of this.


I know what you mean Franson. I don't think I'll ever take a re-entry for granted again.

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #23 on: 08/07/2005 03:33 PM »
Breaking news. Discovery surveys defeated Aussies from 220 miles up ;)

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #24 on: 08/07/2005 04:01 PM »
I've written a script for ITV News so if that gets on I'll try and tape it to the PC and stick it on here.

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #25 on: 08/07/2005 04:35 PM »
Saw it, was very cool. Liked the CEV mentions.
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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #26 on: 08/07/2005 04:59 PM »
Here we go, download the clip...

I missed the first few seconds of it, and reduced the quality to allow for easier downloads, but he did well to read off my script, although he seemed to think Lockheed Martin and Boeing are three different companies ;)

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #27 on: 08/07/2005 05:13 PM »
So very cool to know that you wrote this. I didn't know that's how it works, but I suppose it would take a lot longer for the news channels to write these things up.

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #28 on: 08/07/2005 10:03 PM »
Chris, I think you should make the forum for users only, cause we get so many guests who don't contribute to the site at all.
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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #29 on: 08/07/2005 10:05 PM »
I agree

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #30 on: 08/07/2005 10:12 PM »
Everyone ready for the 11 hour shift to landing?

Landing in 10 and a half hours.


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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #32 on: 08/07/2005 10:29 PM »
KSC give good weather for landing. Only scattered clouds at 25,000 feet, clear below. Edwards is clear too, just in case.

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #33 on: 08/07/2005 10:32 PM »
K-Band antenna go to be stowed. We might lost some of these awesome images.

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #34 on: 08/07/2005 10:38 PM »
About 10 hours till landing. I wonder how good the coverage by way of images and videos will be this time. Rumour was that a cockpit ciew camera will show the pure speed of re-entry?
Let's go and explore space.

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #35 on: 08/07/2005 10:45 PM »
I know there's more images and video to come this time, but as far as from the cockpit, I doubt it and it wouldn't be live.

Hello! Kylie Clem has her hand on flight director Richard Jones' knee? Quick, phone the tabloids! ;)

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #36 on: 08/07/2005 10:47 PM »
I'll be going over to see her arrive with my Columbia Recovery Hat on. Just feels apt.


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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #38 on: 08/07/2005 10:53 PM »
I think we'll all be having a few thoughts about Columbia and her crew tomorrow.

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #39 on: 08/07/2005 10:58 PM »
Agreed.

Crew wake up at 1:39am UK Time.
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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #40 on: 08/07/2005 11:11 PM »
Here's the timeline. Remeber to add 5 hours for UK time from spaceflightnow.com and William Harwood.


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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #41 on: 08/07/2005 11:27 PM »
Thanks for the timeline, Chris.  

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #42 on: 08/07/2005 11:53 PM »
I see space.com's forum is up to its usual tricks of posters wishing for Discovery to crash. Sad bastards.
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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #43 on: 08/08/2005 12:01 AM »
Seems to be the only way they can get decent interest in their STS-114 thread today, sadly. No need to be concerned with men with small manhoods.

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« Reply #44 on: 08/08/2005 12:21 AM »
Not far away from Crew wake up. I wonder what the music will be this time.

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #45 on: 08/08/2005 12:28 AM »
It's a buncha monkeys flingin' feces.  Just like Yahoo.  Glad there's someplace better to hang.  Then again, I did find a couple of gems out there in the wilderness...

http://www.dc8p.com/html/moonhoax.html

So what's it take to get kicked off this forum?  ;->


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« Reply #46 on: 08/08/2005 12:44 AM »
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So what's it take to get kicked off this forum?  ;->

Dressing in Star Trek uniforms while posting.
Overuse of the word "fuel" when refering to the External Tank
False Tans.
Drooling over Jessica Rye's commentary on NASA TV - cause she's reading off a script, she doesn't know really!
Being a Liberal.
Playing cheesey pop music whilst posting.
Asking "What is a Space Shuttle anyway?"
Being a fan of SRBs but not Orbiters.
Having long hair, if not a lady.

Apart from that, you're all fine :)

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #47 on: 08/08/2005 12:45 AM »
Way hey!!

Come on Eileen as the wake up music!!  (not come on Eileen, come on - silly hairy old lady on CAPCOM).

Damn, who did that song, it's an English band.

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« Reply #48 on: 08/08/2005 12:47 AM »
Dexy's Midnight Runners! :)

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« Reply #49 on: 08/08/2005 12:49 AM »
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So what's it take to get kicked off this forum?  ;->

Dressing in Star Trek uniforms while posting.
Overuse of the word "fuel" when refering to the External Tank
False Tans.
Drooling over Jessica Rye's commentary on NASA TV - cause she's reading off a script, she doesn't know really!
Being a Liberal.
Playing cheesey pop music whilst posting.
Asking "What is a Space Shuttle anyway?"
Being a fan of SRBs but not Orbiters.
Having long hair, if not a lady.

Apart from that, you're all fine :)

HAHA :)
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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #50 on: 08/08/2005 12:55 AM »
>Come on Eileen, well I swear (what he means)
At this moment, you mean everything
With you in that dress my thoughts I confess
Verge on dirty
Ah come on Eileen<

It's about getting her in bed

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« Reply #51 on: 08/08/2005 01:18 AM »
Everyone getting into work at JSC.

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« Reply #52 on: 08/08/2005 01:38 AM »
Am i the only one  out there that is in a launch and re-entry suit land the shuttle on my PC? ^_^

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« Reply #53 on: 08/08/2005 01:48 AM »
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Am i the only one  out there that is in a launch and re-entry suit land the shuttle on my PC? ^_^

I'm sitting here with an eyepatch and a tricorn hat.  Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of LOX...

Maybe geek pirate talk will get me blackbearded, er, blackballed, arrrggh.


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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #54 on: 08/08/2005 02:00 AM »
I'm completely naked!
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« Reply #55 on: 08/08/2005 02:10 AM »
This is me (apart from the face) ;)

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« Reply #56 on: 08/08/2005 02:13 AM »
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Am i the only one  out there that is in a launch and re-entry suit land the shuttle on my PC? ^_^

I bet you're feeling normal now, norm ;)

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #57 on: 08/08/2005 02:14 AM »
Monkey Suit, but that's nothing new for me on a Sunday night.

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #58 on: 08/08/2005 02:36 AM »
Looks like the final track is on, where de-orbit burn will be.

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #59 on: 08/08/2005 02:39 AM »
Leroy Cain and his CAPCOM team. Discovery power up on-going.


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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #61 on: 08/08/2005 02:57 AM »
Cargo doors set to close in one hour.

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« Reply #62 on: 08/08/2005 02:58 AM »
Cool and the ISS will show live video of the re-entry from above! :o  :)

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #63 on: 08/08/2005 03:03 AM »
Well, we hope so. The ISS crew have been told where to look, and the ISS cameras have caught the Soyuz re-entering. But no-one on the ISS has seen the shuttle re-enter. The distance between the two craft is now 200 miles.


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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #65 on: 08/08/2005 03:11 AM »
I thought it would be more fun over here... ;)

But what's with Leroy breaking tradition with a blue shirt? Doesn't he know that NASA mission control guys are *always* supposed to wear white shirts and dark ties? :)

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #66 on: 08/08/2005 03:15 AM »
Welcome.

If NASA Twix isn't too busy maybe he'll go and ask him for us :)

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« Reply #67 on: 08/08/2005 03:18 AM »
He told me he's doing some back-up ops for FDO, but might have time on breaks to pop on here.

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« Reply #68 on: 08/08/2005 03:44 AM »
They claim the weather is still forecast to be fine.

Cargo Bay Doors closing in 20 mins.




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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #71 on: 08/08/2005 04:02 AM »
Chris, that graphic you posted showing the ground track for Discovery and the WB-57 locations also marked a HALO-II. A little googling reveals that to be a modified gulfstream High ALtitude Observatory, used by the Missile Defence Agency to monitor missile tests. I wonder if it is part of the "other agencies actively involved in the mission" (along with NRO) that Wayne Hale has been so cagey about. I haven't seen the HALO mentioned anywhere else before now.

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« Reply #72 on: 08/08/2005 04:18 AM »
Could be, and they don't have to tell us if it involves military systems.

Weather latest:

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #73 on: 08/08/2005 04:42 AM »
dose any one know about wene rollover to the OPF will be and what one they are going to?




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« Reply #77 on: 08/08/2005 05:13 AM »
Doors closed :) 3 and a half hours till landing. Discovery's five computers being transitioned for landing software.

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« Reply #78 on: 08/08/2005 05:15 AM »
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dose any one know about wene rollover to the OPF will be and what one they are going to?

OPF 1 I believe and it's later in the day after SSME are placed into drain position. I don't think they leave her out there for too long.

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« Reply #79 on: 08/08/2005 05:22 AM »
20 mins and the crew will get into their flight suits and start to take their seats.

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #80 on: 08/08/2005 06:04 AM »
There is a chance of rain for KSC. I take it if they don't use KSC, they will go to Edwards, rather than wait on orbit for tomorrow?

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #81 on: 08/08/2005 06:10 AM »
No. If they can't make KSC today, they will wave off until tomorrow, and then bring up Edwards and perhaps White Sands.

Only trying KSC today, mainly because EAFB looks good for tomorrow and Wednesday.

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« Reply #82 on: 08/08/2005 06:10 AM »
ISS 200 miles behind Discovery - view from...

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« Reply #83 on: 08/08/2005 06:12 AM »
Right, 1hr 30 to Deorbit. Back in 40 mins.

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #84 on: 08/08/2005 06:24 AM »
The NASA Commentator has just said that weather looks good for landing.

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #85 on: 08/08/2005 06:56 AM »
Concern expressed about low cloud around the Shuttle Landing Facility.

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« Reply #86 on: 08/08/2005 07:00 AM »
There is also a concern about showers, but controllers are told they will evaporate away. Getting close to decision time.

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #87 on: 08/08/2005 07:22 AM »
No go for the first attempt due to the low cloud.

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #88 on: 08/08/2005 07:23 AM »
Currently in a No-go situation. Weather is "unstable"

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« Reply #89 on: 08/08/2005 07:24 AM »
Back.

Ok, cool. Someone start blowing the cloud away.

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #90 on: 08/08/2005 07:34 AM »
Ah, NZ tv news, so crap.

"Just moments ago Nasa gave the final all-clear for Discovery to re-enter the Earth's atmosphere"

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #91 on: 08/08/2005 07:36 AM »
Stupid media.

Cloud is a real issue now, there's low cloud surrounding the MIDDLE of the VAB

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« Reply #92 on: 08/08/2005 07:39 AM »
Landing on the second rev would be at 6:22 am EDT. Sunrise is at 6:48 am EDT.

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #93 on: 08/08/2005 07:52 AM »
The current forecast is that the low cloud will dissipate in time for the second attempt.

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« Reply #94 on: 08/08/2005 08:05 AM »
The Shuttle is now the top headline story on all the UK News Channels.
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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #95 on: 08/08/2005 08:22 AM »
Trying to get breaks to see this is a pain. No more delays! :)

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« Reply #96 on: 08/08/2005 08:33 AM »
Ok, last lap this time hopefully

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« Reply #97 on: 08/08/2005 08:35 AM »
Hopes are high the clouds will clear. Decision coming. We had an issue with a flight software upload, one that would affect the OMS burn, but we have that sorted now.

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« Reply #98 on: 08/08/2005 08:42 AM »
Thanks Mike, apparently we should hear in less than 20 minutes.

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« Reply #99 on: 08/08/2005 09:02 AM »
This tells me no go :( Maybe he has a headache.

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« Reply #100 on: 08/08/2005 09:06 AM »
This is Discovery from the ground!

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #101 on: 08/08/2005 09:07 AM »
Everything still go for re-entry.

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« Reply #102 on: 08/08/2005 09:08 AM »
Decision any second.


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« Reply #104 on: 08/08/2005 09:11 AM »
BOLLOCKS @!#@#$@#$^%&*^*%



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« Reply #105 on: 08/08/2005 09:14 AM »
Opportunites for landing tomorrow:

Tuesday, Aug. 9

Orbit:De-Orbit and Landing time:
217.....04:05 AM.....05:08 AM...Kennedy Space Center
218.....05:37 AM.....06:39 AM...White Sands, NM
218.....05:41 AM.....06:43 AM...Kennedy Space Center
219.....07:11 AM.....08:13 AM...Edwards AFB, CA
219.....07:13 AM.....08:14 AM...White Sands, NM
220.....08:47 AM.....09:48 AM...Edwards AFB, CA

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #106 on: 08/08/2005 09:15 AM »
24 hours?

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #107 on: 08/08/2005 09:15 AM »
With a heavy glider with short wings, I guess you have to get it right every time.

Here's hoping for tomorrow.

*edit* heck, that didn't take long, payload bay doors opening already!

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« Reply #108 on: 08/08/2005 09:17 AM »
It was a VERY marginal decision. Cain wanted it to go ahead and is currently very angry.

A few arguments going on, Can't see who but I can hear! I think I'm going to hide.

Payload Bay doors will reopen now.

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« Reply #109 on: 08/08/2005 09:18 AM »
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24 hours?

Yes.

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« Reply #110 on: 08/08/2005 09:20 AM »
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It was a VERY marginal decision. Cain wanted it to go ahead and is currently very angry.

A few arguments going on, Can't see who but I can hear! I think I'm going to hide.
So the weather officer has a veto on the landing, and used it?

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« Reply #111 on: 08/08/2005 09:26 AM »
Na, it was film from a ground based tracking station. Honest :)

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #112 on: 08/08/2005 09:44 AM »
Sort it out Mike, we need this lady back for processing!


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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #114 on: 08/08/2005 09:55 AM »
Ah bollocks to the weather.

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« Reply #115 on: 08/08/2005 10:04 AM »
You have it backwards. Rominger said go, Cain and the JSC wx officer said no.

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« Reply #116 on: 08/08/2005 10:12 AM »
I didn't know you were in Mission Control Center Ben! ;)

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #117 on: 08/08/2005 10:14 AM »
That's wrong by definition. Cain was advised to say no, but wanted to. That's why he has controllers.

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« Reply #118 on: 08/08/2005 10:18 AM »
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E-mail campaign. Get some educated views in about the Shuttle!

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« Reply #119 on: 08/08/2005 11:07 AM »
Leroy says they WILL land tomorrow whatever (as in somewhere).

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #120 on: 08/08/2005 11:10 AM »
Why did they open the payload doors again? What purpose does that serve or help and it seems a waste of power opening and closing again.

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« Reply #121 on: 08/08/2005 11:14 AM »
Due to the readers in the doors.

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« Reply #122 on: 08/08/2005 11:16 AM »
What are the readers?

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« Reply #123 on: 08/08/2005 11:33 AM »
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Why did they open the payload doors again? What purpose does that serve or help and it seems a waste of power opening and closing again.

The doors have radiators on the inside that need to be exposed to space in order to provide cooling for the orbiter electronics.

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« Reply #124 on: 08/08/2005 11:35 AM »

I think it's radiators?  There are radiators inside the payload bay doors that are used to dissapate heat from the avionics, environmental control systems, etc... They can only reject heat when the doors are open and exposed to space.

There is a "flash boiler" cooling system that is used to provide cooling during launch and re-entry, but it is limited in it's capability or capacity.  Don't know enough about the system to say if the cooling medium is consumed during operation, or if it can't handle the load during extended periods of operation?


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« Reply #125 on: 08/08/2005 11:36 AM »
Sorry Stardust, didn't mean to echo you.

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« Reply #126 on: 08/08/2005 11:37 AM »
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Sorry Stardust, didn't mean to echo you.

No problem.

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RE: STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
« Reply #127 on: 08/08/2005 12:09 PM »

SimonShuttle:

Not to beat a dead horse, but I thought your question deserved a better answer.  From "How Stuff Works":

Temperature Control
Outer space is an extremely cold environment and temperatures will vary drastically in different parts of the orbiter. You might think that heating the orbiter would be a problem. However, the electronic equipment generates more than enough heat for the ship. The problem is getting rid of the excess heat. So the temperature control system has to carry out two major functions:

  • Distribute heat where it is needed on the orbiter (mid-fuselage and aft sections) so that vital systems do not freeze in the cold of space.
  • Get rid of the excess heat.

To do this, the shuttle has two methods to handle temperature control:

  • Passive methods - generally simple, handle small heat loads and require little maintenance
    • Insulating materials (blankets), surface coatings, paints - reduce heat loss through the walls of the various components just like your home insulation.
    • Electrical heaters - use electrically-heated wires like a toaster to heat various areas.
  • Active methods - more complex, use fluid to handle large heat loads, require maintenance
    • Cold plates - metal plates that collect heat by direct contact with equipment or conduction
    • Heat exchangers - collect heat from equipment using fluid. The equipment radiates heat to a fluid (water, ammonia) which in turn passes heat on to freon. Both fluids are pumped and recirculated to remove heat.
    • Pumps, lines, valves - transport the collected heat from one area to another.
    • Radiators - located on the inside surfaces of the cargo bay doors that radiate the collected heat to outer space
    • Flash evaporator/ammonia boilers - these devices are located in the aft fuselage and transfer heat from Freon coolant loops overboard when cargo bay doors are closed or when cargo bay radiators are overloaded.
      • Flash evaporator
        1. Freon coolant loops wrap around an inner core.
        2. The evaporator sprays water on the heated core.
        3. The water evaporates removing heat.
        4. The water vapor is vented overboard.
      • Ammonia boiler
        1. Freon coolant loops pass through a tank of pressurized ammonia.
        2. Heat released from the freon causes the ammonia to boil.
        3. Ammonia vapor is dumped overboard.

The cabin heat exchanger also controls the cabin temperature. It circulates cool water to remove excess heat (cabin air is also used to cool electronic equipment) and transfers this heat to a Freon exchanger. The Freon then transfers the heat to other orbiter systems (e.g., cryogenic gas tanks, hydraulic systems) and radiates excess heat to outer space.


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« Reply #128 on: 08/08/2005 06:49 PM »
Right, shall we go to a new thread for the next attempt. Note, they've said they are going to land today whatever - providing Discovery doesn't have a fault.

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Re: Aug.8 STS-114 Return to Earth - Updates and Images thread
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bump...

Dryden Prepares Discovery for Ferry Flight back to KSC - Part 1

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This 43-second video from August of 2005 uses infrared photography to show the night landing of Discovery STS-114 at Edwards Air Force Base.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPiotXfRZYg?t=001

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Dryden Prepares Discovery for Ferry Flight back to KSC - Part 2

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Published on Jul 17, 2017

This 66-second video taken in August of 2005 shows the post-landing activities following the landing of space shuttle Discovery on STS-114.  The video includes the Shuttle crew's inspection of the orbiter's exterior.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD17ean8UY8?t=001

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Dryden Prepares Discovery for Ferry Flight Back to KSC - Part 3

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This 51-second video from August of 2005 shows Shuttle Discovery being hoisted onto the Mate-DeMate Facility (MDD) at NASA Dryden Flight Research Center (now Armstrong)  in California.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8-9dwR8DIw?t=001

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Dryden Prepares Discovery for Ferry Flight back to KSC - Part 4

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This 63-second video from August of 2005 shows the preparation of Shuttle Discover for loading onto NASA's 747 Shuttle Carrier Aircraft in the Mate-DeMate Facility at Dryden Flight Research Center (now Armstrong).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nldINPMTp8?t=001

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Dryden Prepares Discovery for Ferry Flight back to KSC - Part 5

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This 33-second movie clip shows Discovery being loaded onto NASA's 747 Shuttle Carrier Aircraft in the Mate-DeMate Facility (MDD) at Dryden.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ohJepXXrSg?t=001

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Dryden Prepares Discovery for Ferry Flight back to KSC - Part 6

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Published on Jul 17, 2017


This 52-second video from August of 2005 shows the takeoff of NASA's 747 and Discovery STS-114 from Edwards Air Force Base at the beginning of the return flight to Kennedy Space Center in Florida.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWi3Hh1OoY8?t=001

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