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The suborbital thread!
« on: 12/26/2007 12:27 PM »
Hi!

We could talk here about the suborbital launches that reach the edge of space or space itself without orbital velocity.

In the last days we had a RS-24 missile launch from GIK-1 Plesetsk and also a missile launch from the Tula submarine (was this a R-29RM missile?).

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #1 on: 12/26/2007 04:09 PM »
If I´ve read all correctly, there were two launches from submarine Tula in the last days.
The first was on Dec, 17 and the second on Dec, 25. The rocket was called Sinewa or RSM-54.

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #2 on: 12/26/2007 04:19 PM »
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If I´ve read all correctly, there were two launches from submarine Tula in the last days.
The first was on Dec, 17 and the second on Dec, 25. The rocket was called Sinewa or RSM-54.

That's what I thought as well.

Does anyone know the times at which either of these launches were conducted?

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #3 on: 12/27/2007 11:06 AM »
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Does anyone know the times at which either of these launches were conducted?

I didn't managed to get the launch times.

Does any of you have the complete list of all the suborbital launches of 2007? I only have listed the launches made by missiles.

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #4 on: 12/27/2007 11:42 AM »
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GW_Simulations - 26/12/2007  11:19 AM

Does anyone know the times at which either of these launches were conducted?

I didn't managed to get the launch times.

Does any of you have the complete list of all the suborbital launches of 2007? I only have listed the launches made by missiles.

Jonathan listed quite a few back in August, see http://host.planet4589.org/space/jsr/back/news.585

The Wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_in_spaceflight has quite an extensive listing as well, but a complete list is virtually impossible since a lot of these launches are never announced.



Incase anyone is interested, here is an (incomplete) list of planned sub-orbital launches for 2008. Most of the launches are US, because I'd already listed them for the US launch schedule. I'll try to add more launches for other countries later:

Date - Rocket - Launch Site - Time (GMT) - Mission
2-15 January - Black Brant XII - Andřya - 04:00-10:00 - SCIFER-2
January - Black Brant IX - White Sands -01:00-08:00
January - Black Brant IX - White Sands -01:00-08:00
January - VS-30/Orion - Andřya - HotPay-2
January - RH-200 - Sriharikota - ??
1 February - Terrier - Wallops - 13:00-21:30 - or March - SubTec-II
February - VSB-30 - Esrange - Texus-44
February - VSB-30 - Esrange - Texus-45
February (NET) - Minotaur II - Vandenberg - NFIRE-1B
March - Black Brant IX - White Sands - 13:00-21:00
March - Orion - Esrange - Rexus 5/6
1 April - FalconLAUNCH - Wallops - 00:00 - FL-VI
15 April (NET) - Black Brant IX - Wallops - 13:00-21:30 - NGSP
25 April - Polaris/STARS - Kodiak - 20:00 - 00:00 - FTG-04 Target
25 April - GBI (THAAD??) - Vandenberg - 20:00 - 00:00 - FTG-04 ABM
April - VSB-30 - Esrange - Maser-11
April - Black Brant IX - White Sands
April - Black Brant IX - White Sands
May - Black Brant IX - White Sands
23 June? - ALV - MARS - 00:00 - SOAREX-VI
June - Black Brant IX - White Sands
June - Black Brant IX - White Sands
June - Nike/Orion - Andřya - ECOMA
June - Nike/Orion - Andřya - ECOMA
June - Nike/Orion - Andřya - ECOMA
1 July - Peregrine - Wallops
July - Black Brant IX - White Sands
September - Black Brant IX - White Sands
November - Nike/Orion - Esrange - MAPHEUS
November - Minuteman III - Vandenberg - GT-194GM
December - VS-30/Orion - Andřya - JCI-2

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #5 on: 12/27/2007 02:00 PM »
Here is my list for 2007 to date.  
 - Ed Kyle  
 
YEAR TO DATE MAJOR SUBORBITAL LAUNCH LOG 
      Suborbital Launches Using Booster Hardware Also Used
      for Orbital Launches
==================================================================================

DATE     VEHICLE            ID    PAYLOAD                MASS(t) SITE*    ORBIT**
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
01/11/07 DF-21/KT-1?              ASAT Test              0.4?    XC       SUB (1)
02/07/07 Minuteman 3              Glory Trip 193GM               VA LF10  SUB (2)
03/21/07 Minotaur 2 (MM2)   TLV5  SBX Target                     VA LF06  SUB (3)
05/29/07 RS-24 (Topol-M/MIRV)     ICBM Test                      PL       SUB (4)
06/28/07 R-30 (Bulava)            SLBM Test                      WH       SUB (5)
08/07/07 R-29R                    SLBM Test                      PO       SUB (6)
08/23/07 Minotaur 2 (MM2)   TLV7  MDA Test                       VA LF06  SUB (7)
09/28/07 OBV/GBI            OBV6  FT-3a MDA/GMD Intercept Test   VA LF23  SUB (8)
10/18/07 RS-12M (Topol)           ICBM Test                      PL       SUB (8.1)
10/29/07 UR-100NUTTH (SS-19)      ICBM Test                      TB Silo  SUB (9)
11/10/07 R-30 (Bulava)            SLBM Test                      WH      [FSO](9.1)
12/08/07 RS-12M (Topol)           ICBM Test                      KY       SUB (10)
12/17/07 R-29RM(RSM-54)(Sineva)   SLBM Test                      BA       SUB (11)
12/25/07 R-29RM(RSM-54)(Sineva)   SLBM Test                      BA       SUB (11)
12/25/07 RS-24 (Topol-M/MIRV)     ICBM Test                      PL       SUB (4)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(1)  Suborbital ASAT launch test destroyed China's FY-1C weathersat in
    843 x 862km x 98.8 deg orbit.  First China ASAT success after four
    reported failures.
(2)  ICBM test to Kwajalein Atoll.  Missile pulled from active duty in silo at
    Minot AFB, ND.
(3)  Midcourse Defense sensor target boosted by sixth "Minotaur 2", a 3-stage
    Minuteman 2 ICBM re-equipped with Pegasus avionics.
(4)  Warheads landed on Kamchatka range.  Announced to be first flights of new
    MIRV ICBM missile type from a mobile launcher at Plesetsk.  Believed to be a
    MIRV Topol-M variant.
(5)  First Bulava success after consecutive failures.  Launched from Dmitry
    Donsko nuclear submarine toward Kura test site on Kamchatka Peninsula.
(6)  R-29R SLBM test launched from submarine in Pacific Ocean to Barents Sea
    range (one report said to Kanin Peninsula, another said to Novaya Zemlya
    island).  Launched from K-211 Petropavlovsk-Kamchatskiy.
(7)  Minotaur 2 (Modified Minuteman 2) launched to serve as sensor target for
    NFIRE satellite.  $25 million Missile Defense Agency test.
(8)  Intercepted Polaris/Stars target missile launched from Kodiak, Alaska.
(8.1) Test launch from Plestesk mobile launcher to Kura Test Range, Kamchatka.
(9)  Test launch from Baikonur silo toward Kura Test Range on Kamchatka Peninsula.
(9.1) FAILED SLBM test launch.  Failure during 1st stage shortly after launch.
(10) Test from Kapustin Yar mobile launcher to Sary Shagan test range, Kazakhstan.
(11) SLBM tests from submarine Tula in Barents Sea to Kura/Kamchatka.
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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #6 on: 12/27/2007 09:12 PM »
Cool! Thanks Ed!

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #7 on: 12/27/2007 10:12 PM »
Here http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/ap-071217-brazil-launch.html is an information about a Brazilian launch.

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #8 on: 12/28/2007 08:07 AM »
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GW_Simulations - 26/12/2007  11:19 AM

Does anyone know the times at which either of these launches were conducted?

According to http://russianforces.org/blog/2007/12/second_launch_of_r29rm_sineva.shtml the launch on Dec, 25 was on 10.00 UTC.

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #9 on: 12/28/2007 08:20 AM »
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GW_Simulations - 26/12/2007  11:19 AM

Does anyone know the times at which either of these launches were conducted?

According to http://russianforces.org/blog/2007/12/second_launch_of_r29rm_sineva.shtml the launch on Dec, 25 was on 10.00 UTC.
Thanks

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #10 on: 01/01/2008 03:44 PM »
BB-XII/SCIFER launch from Andřya is scheduled for early tomorrow morning. Window opens at 04:00 and closes at 10:00 GMT.

Two BB-IX launches from White Sands are also imminent, however the exact dates for these are TBD.

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #11 on: 01/01/2008 03:57 PM »
SCIFER-2 on launch ramp (imagem is from here)...

The campaign status are available here.

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #12 on: 01/02/2008 09:32 AM »
Launch window has closed for today. Still no news on whether a launch has occurred or not.

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #13 on: 01/02/2008 08:16 PM »
Launch on 2 January was scrubbed due to lack of science, high winds, and telemetry problems. Next attempt will be 3 January.

http://www.dartmouth.edu/~aurora/scifer2.html


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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #14 on: 01/03/2008 09:22 PM »
No news, so I'm assuming it was been scrubbed again. If anyone knows differently, please correct me.

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #15 on: 01/04/2008 12:11 AM »
For the record, there is some confusion over the launch window. NASA WFF published 04:00 - 10:00 GMT, however according to LRL, the window is 06:00 - 11:00. I would be inclined to go with the LRL figures.

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #16 on: 01/04/2008 08:29 PM »
Launch was scrubbed again this morning. Next attempt will be 5 January, 06:00 - 11:00 GMT.
http://mirl.sr.unh.edu/scifer2_launch.html

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #17 on: 01/05/2008 07:55 PM »
Launch delayed again due to bad weather, science conditions have improved though, according to http://scifer2.blogspot.com/2008/01/ill-try-to-be-better-about-updates.html .

Next attempt will presumably be on 6 January in the same window.

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #18 on: 01/07/2008 06:39 PM »
Scrubbed again on both Sunday and Monday. Next attempt will be Tuesday (8th), same window.

http://mirl.sr.unh.edu/scifer2_launch.html

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #19 on: 01/07/2008 08:43 PM »
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Two BB-IX launches from White Sands are also imminent, however the exact dates for these are TBD.

Any news about this launches??

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