Quote from: mlindner on 10/14/2013 02:59 pmWhy does CUSAT 2 keep coming up? It never even launched. Can we assume that object is also "F9 Deb"?It's the Falcon 9 second stage. Somehow STRATCOM thinks that CUSAT 2 was attached to it. I am sure they'll fix it soon.
Why does CUSAT 2 keep coming up? It never even launched. Can we assume that object is also "F9 Deb"?
With so many objects, are we still buying the "insulation" story? - Ed Kyle
Quote from: edkyle99 on 10/14/2013 10:34 pmWith so many objects, are we still buying the "insulation" story? - Ed KyleDo we have any real idea what the debris objects are if not insulation? And if so, based on what (other than orbital longevity of the items)?
I don't think SpaceX will be giving a qualified response that is satisfactory to everyone. They've already moved on to the next launch.
Quote from: mr. mark on 10/15/2013 05:22 am I don't think SpaceX will be giving a qualified response that is satisfactory to everyone. They've already moved on to the next launch.So much for a thorough root cause analysis.Zoe
IF it was insulation coming off, how come pieces 39277 and 39278 have a semi-major axis that is 50-55 km larger than the F9 upper stage? Where did the energy come from?
In order to be able to "buy" or not buy an answer, the answer is required to be given in the first place. Not having answers leads to questions and speculations, which itself eventually leads to flak from the amazing peoples I think that fatjohn's question is a good one, I'm curious to what the responses to it will be.Zoe
Quote from: fatjohn1408 on 10/15/2013 08:58 amIF it was insulation coming off, how come pieces 39277 and 39278 have a semi-major axis that is 50-55 km larger than the F9 upper stage? Where did the energy come from?If I'm correct it corresponds with the equivalent energy of about 15m/s Delta-V
Quote from: fatjohn1408 on 10/15/2013 09:05 amQuote from: fatjohn1408 on 10/15/2013 08:58 amIF it was insulation coming off, how come pieces 39277 and 39278 have a semi-major axis that is 50-55 km larger than the F9 upper stage? Where did the energy come from?If I'm correct it corresponds with the equivalent energy of about 15m/s Delta-VInsulation caught by the venting from the stage could easily get that sort of push. The fact that it is insulation is shown by the rapid atmospheric decay, which is a sign of a high surface area to mass ratio.
Why have there been no details posted, especially video, related to the 1st stage reentry, not-as-hard-as-usual ocean intersection, and parts recovery.
SpaceX made significant mention of this post-launch, and indicated that video would be posted by weeks end. I searched the web and NSF, but found nothing
“The first stage hit the water relatively hard,” noted Musk. Despite the impact, SpaceX still managed to recover portions of the first stage which includes according to preliminary reports, the inter-stage, a number of the components from the engine bay, and some of the composite overwrap pressure vessels.
Quote from: AnjaZoe on 10/15/2013 09:04 amIn order to be able to "buy" or not buy an answer, the answer is required to be given in the first place. Not having answers leads to questions and speculations, which itself eventually leads to flak from the amazing peoples I think that fatjohn's question is a good one, I'm curious to what the responses to it will be.ZoeI'm with you, Zoe. While that info would be wonderful, I doubt satisfying internet speculations is at the top of their to-do list. I'd hazard to guess that their customers will have a satisfactory answer, but we may not get that. I get a little frustrated sometimes with the implied lack if truthfulness that sometimes appears, just because we aren't privy to all the data.
QuoteWhy have there been no details posted, especially video, related to the 1st stage reentry, not-as-hard-as-usual ocean intersection, and parts recovery. L2 has some!
Exactly my point. I am sure the answer is known and has been told to the required parties. There is no reason to inform us. We most likely will be kept in the dark.