Sith:You might be interested in reading Woodward's latest paper when it's published in Foundations of Physics later this year. It's about how the M-E can be applied to the Warp Drive and Stargate problem discussed in this video. It's 26 pages long and it covers some new and interesting ground on how to make warp drives and stargtates using the M-E's wormhole and higher terms to generate the required amount of exotic or negative G/I mass needed to create same.
And no, Jupiter sized exotic G/I masses will not be required for that estimate is a worst case. It turns out it could be much, much less...
I was thinking the same. The practical difficulties of establishing a wormhole between planetary surfaces would have to be huge:Accurate targetingConstantly compensating for relative movementPressure differentialsBiological cross contaminationNot to mention safety. That's a lot of energy being manipulated. Not sure I want that on the surface of the planet I live on...
Most likely if a wormhole can be created and targeted, it would be from interplanetary space (perhaps an Earth Trojan point?) to somewhere in the vicinity of the destination star. Then ME spacecraft would ferry people from Earth through the wormhole and on to their destination.
Quote from: mikorangester on 11/09/2010 12:39 pmQuote from: JohnFornaro on 11/08/2010 02:42 pmOk. I bit. From: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=mass+of+an+electronQuoteelectron mass = 9.10938188 × 10-31 kilogramsand from:http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&q=mass+of+a+protonproton mass = 1.67262158 × 10-27 kilogramsWhich is about 1/1836? Ish? So when I got to the part in your blog where you state that "The mass of the electron is 1/10000 the mass of the proton", I stopped. Personally, I'm not in total understanding of the theory as outlined by Woodward and March; I don't have what it takes to work with data that appears incorrect. I notice that Mike Lorrey posted a comment on your site. In addition, your "How to" graphic was illegible in my viewer.As a side note, I wondered about the "reactions" that you seem to be expecting from your readers: "Funny"?Its an approximation only. The model is what is interesting, well to me anyway. Reactions? Thought I was indicating that there are models out there that shows propellantless field propulsion not only to be workable but within technological reach, or is simple explanations not egg headish enough?My reaction is you still haven't responded to my comment on your blog, which correctly points out that using electromagnetic waves to cause atoms to move is the central method of the Hall Thruster, a form of ion or plasma drive. It most certainly is NOT propellantless or reactionless, and has absolutely nothing to do with Woodward's Mach Effect. You are a, to quote Jack Sarfatti, a scientific cargo cultist.
Quote from: JohnFornaro on 11/08/2010 02:42 pmOk. I bit. From: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=mass+of+an+electronQuoteelectron mass = 9.10938188 × 10-31 kilogramsand from:http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&q=mass+of+a+protonproton mass = 1.67262158 × 10-27 kilogramsWhich is about 1/1836? Ish? So when I got to the part in your blog where you state that "The mass of the electron is 1/10000 the mass of the proton", I stopped. Personally, I'm not in total understanding of the theory as outlined by Woodward and March; I don't have what it takes to work with data that appears incorrect. I notice that Mike Lorrey posted a comment on your site. In addition, your "How to" graphic was illegible in my viewer.As a side note, I wondered about the "reactions" that you seem to be expecting from your readers: "Funny"?Its an approximation only. The model is what is interesting, well to me anyway. Reactions? Thought I was indicating that there are models out there that shows propellantless field propulsion not only to be workable but within technological reach, or is simple explanations not egg headish enough?
Ok. I bit. From: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=mass+of+an+electronQuoteelectron mass = 9.10938188 × 10-31 kilogramsand from:http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&q=mass+of+a+protonproton mass = 1.67262158 × 10-27 kilogramsWhich is about 1/1836? Ish? So when I got to the part in your blog where you state that "The mass of the electron is 1/10000 the mass of the proton", I stopped. Personally, I'm not in total understanding of the theory as outlined by Woodward and March; I don't have what it takes to work with data that appears incorrect. I notice that Mike Lorrey posted a comment on your site. In addition, your "How to" graphic was illegible in my viewer.As a side note, I wondered about the "reactions" that you seem to be expecting from your readers: "Funny"?
electron mass = 9.10938188 × 10-31 kilograms
supposing that wormholes are indeed possible without time paradoxes and stuff... would we be able to DETECT a wormhole???i mean... lets say we are a bit xenophobic and are suspicious of the possibility of aliens having easy access to our star system. Would we be able to detect such breaches in our defenses?
Quote from: aceshigh on 02/07/2011 01:52 amsupposing that wormholes are indeed possible without time paradoxes and stuff... would we be able to DETECT a wormhole???i mean... lets say we are a bit xenophobic and are suspicious of the possibility of aliens having easy access to our star system. Would we be able to detect such breaches in our defenses?What defenses? We don't even know where all the Earth Orbit crossing objects in our solar system are, and have no way to stop any impactors we might detect.Worrying about alien wormholes is a bit premature. If hostile aliens have that technology already we're stuffed.And I for one would welcome our new alien overlords.
If any of these technologies (Mach Lorentz thrusters, wormholes, etc.) are possible, it makes it even more likely that we are alone in the galaxy, at least. These technologies make it easier to spread through out the galaxy. If there are aliens, they most certainly should have done this by now and the galaxy should look like central Tokyo. It does not.Also, the initial Kepler data shows the expected number of planets in the HZ, but that those planets are more like Neptune than Earth. This would certainly put a crimp on the evolution of ET's.
Since Kepler must see at least three transits to be sure the dimming was caused by a planet, and since larger planets give a signal that is easier to check, scientists expect the first reported results will be larger Jupiter sized planets in tight orbits. The first of these were reported after only a few months of operation. Smaller planets, and planets further from their sun will take longer, and discovering planets comparable to Earth is expected to take three years or longer.
I was thinking the same. The practical difficulties of establishing a wormhole between planetary surfaces would have to be huge:Accurate targetingConstantly compensating for relative movementPressure differentialsBiological cross contaminationNot to mention safety. That's a lot of energy being manipulated. Not sure I want that on the surface of the planet I live on...Most likely if a wormhole can be created and targeted, it would be from interplanetary space (perhaps an Earth Trojan point?) to somewhere in the vicinity of the destination star. Then ME spacecraft would ferry people from Earth through the wormhole and on to their destination.I wouldn't put one anywhere near Earth, in case something bad happened. Like an asteroid from the destination system coming through at high relative velocity. Even though it would be unlikely to hit Earth, it could smash the wormhole generator, or waiting ship, and flood near-Earth space with debris.
Quote from: kkattula on 02/01/2011 05:58 pmI was thinking the same. The practical difficulties of establishing a wormhole between planetary surfaces would have to be huge:Accurate targetingConstantly compensating for relative movementPressure differentialsBiological cross contaminationNot to mention safety. That's a lot of energy being manipulated. Not sure I want that on the surface of the planet I live on...Most likely if a wormhole can be created and targeted, it would be from interplanetary space (perhaps an Earth Trojan point?) to somewhere in the vicinity of the destination star. Then ME spacecraft would ferry people from Earth through the wormhole and on to their destination.I wouldn't put one anywhere near Earth, in case something bad happened. Like an asteroid from the destination system coming through at high relative velocity. Even though it would be unlikely to hit Earth, it could smash the wormhole generator, or waiting ship, and flood near-Earth space with debris.Well I've actually proposed the first gated wormholes to be established between Titan and Mars, as a conduit to vent Titanian atmosphere into the Martian atmosphere, densifying it rather quickly (to Earth-normal levels within a few years) for rapid terraforming of the Martian surface.This sort of project would help work out all the kinks of operating stargates at much longer distances.
Well I've actually proposed the first gated wormholes to be established between Titan and Mars, as a conduit to vent Titanian atmosphere into the Martian atmosphere, densifying it rather quickly (to Earth-normal levels within a few years) for rapid terraforming of the Martian surface.This sort of project would help work out all the kinks of operating stargates at much longer distances.
Quote from: mlorrey on 02/08/2011 10:37 pmWell I've actually proposed the first gated wormholes to be established between Titan and Mars, as a conduit to vent Titanian atmosphere into the Martian atmosphere, densifying it rather quickly (to Earth-normal levels within a few years) for rapid terraforming of the Martian surface.This sort of project would help work out all the kinks of operating stargates at much longer distances.The biggest problem with terraforming Mars is its very weak magnetic field. Humans wouldn't be able to survive there for long with the bombardment of cosmic rays. I don't really know any way around that problem besides habitation modules.
Well, we could mine all the copper in the Solar System then wrap Mars like an electric motor then start applying current
Quote from: GeeGee on 02/09/2011 07:23 pmQuote from: mlorrey on 02/08/2011 10:37 pmWell I've actually proposed the first gated wormholes to be established between Titan and Mars, as a conduit to vent Titanian atmosphere into the Martian atmosphere, densifying it rather quickly (to Earth-normal levels within a few years) for rapid terraforming of the Martian surface.This sort of project would help work out all the kinks of operating stargates at much longer distances.The biggest problem with terraforming Mars is its very weak magnetic field. Humans wouldn't be able to survive there for long with the bombardment of cosmic rays. I don't really know any way around that problem besides habitation modules.Well, we could mine all the copper in the Solar System then wrap Mars like an electric motor then start applying current