Cancel SS2. Hybrids are a dead end. Give everyone refunds AND priority as first passengers on SS3.IMHO.
As far as taking decades of time, we'll see.
Quote from: FutureSpaceTourist on 10/26/2017 10:14 pmQuote from: Darkseraph on 10/26/2017 09:59 pmhttp://www.parabolicarc.com/2017/10/26/virgin-galactics-spaceshipthree/The image in the above article is supposedly SpaceShipThree, a point to point spaceplane.I doubt that is anything more than an artist’s impression to look good and suggest there’s something to the supersonic p2p travel. I find it hard to believe, with all the issues they’ve had, that VG has put any real money into this yet. However, presumably the $1B now gives them the resources to look at this more seriously. It’ll be interesting to see what happens, but I’m not holding my breath!And how many billions does someone have to invest before you do stop holding your breath on the matter?
Quote from: Darkseraph on 10/26/2017 09:59 pmhttp://www.parabolicarc.com/2017/10/26/virgin-galactics-spaceshipthree/The image in the above article is supposedly SpaceShipThree, a point to point spaceplane.I doubt that is anything more than an artist’s impression to look good and suggest there’s something to the supersonic p2p travel. I find it hard to believe, with all the issues they’ve had, that VG has put any real money into this yet. However, presumably the $1B now gives them the resources to look at this more seriously. It’ll be interesting to see what happens, but I’m not holding my breath!
http://www.parabolicarc.com/2017/10/26/virgin-galactics-spaceshipthree/The image in the above article is supposedly SpaceShipThree, a point to point spaceplane.
Quote from: Star One on 10/26/2017 10:30 pmQuote from: FutureSpaceTourist on 10/26/2017 10:14 pmQuote from: Darkseraph on 10/26/2017 09:59 pmhttp://www.parabolicarc.com/2017/10/26/virgin-galactics-spaceshipthree/The image in the above article is supposedly SpaceShipThree, a point to point spaceplane.I doubt that is anything more than an artist’s impression to look good and suggest there’s something to the supersonic p2p travel. I find it hard to believe, with all the issues they’ve had, that VG has put any real money into this yet. However, presumably the $1B now gives them the resources to look at this more seriously. It’ll be interesting to see what happens, but I’m not holding my breath!And how many billions does someone have to invest before you do stop holding your breath on the matter?Are you kidding? The willingness of VCs or foreign royalty families to invest in something is almost anti-correlated to the worthiness of a technology. It's mostly related to how well the CEO can sell the snake oil dejour. Examples are everywhere, and they reach the $1B bracket.Further, there is no $1B investment here. There's a loose MOU that mentions the amount $1B. You have no idea what they have.Remember this is VG. "The unveiling company". They have, and unveiled, multiple hangers, a spaceport, a number of carrier airplanes, an official Vodka, an official hotel chain, an official dog food brand (no the last one is a joke)They issue PRs when a run-of-the-mill 747 takes off towards Mojave, arrives at Mojave, takes a flight around Mojave...You know the one thing they don't have? That's right - a SpaceShip. Or rather a suborbital glider, since that vehicle is not a spaceship, even if you insist on calling a 5 minute suborbital "going into space".So SS3 - it's not a thing they can pursue, since it doesn't exist. For real manned P2P travel, you need to build what is essentially a heavy orbital booster. How exactly would VG do that exactly?
Quote from: meekGee on 10/27/2017 04:24 amQuote from: Star One on 10/26/2017 10:30 pmQuote from: FutureSpaceTourist on 10/26/2017 10:14 pmQuote from: Darkseraph on 10/26/2017 09:59 pmhttp://www.parabolicarc.com/2017/10/26/virgin-galactics-spaceshipthree/The image in the above article is supposedly SpaceShipThree, a point to point spaceplane.I doubt that is anything more than an artist’s impression to look good and suggest there’s something to the supersonic p2p travel. I find it hard to believe, with all the issues they’ve had, that VG has put any real money into this yet. However, presumably the $1B now gives them the resources to look at this more seriously. It’ll be interesting to see what happens, but I’m not holding my breath!And how many billions does someone have to invest before you do stop holding your breath on the matter?Are you kidding? The willingness of VCs or foreign royalty families to invest in something is almost anti-correlated to the worthiness of a technology. It's mostly related to how well the CEO can sell the snake oil dejour. Examples are everywhere, and they reach the $1B bracket.Further, there is no $1B investment here. There's a loose MOU that mentions the amount $1B. You have no idea what they have.Remember this is VG. "The unveiling company". They have, and unveiled, multiple hangers, a spaceport, a number of carrier airplanes, an official Vodka, an official hotel chain, an official dog food brand (no the last one is a joke)They issue PRs when a run-of-the-mill 747 takes off towards Mojave, arrives at Mojave, takes a flight around Mojave...You know the one thing they don't have? That's right - a SpaceShip. Or rather a suborbital glider, since that vehicle is not a spaceship, even if you insist on calling a 5 minute suborbital "going into space".So SS3 - it's not a thing they can pursue, since it doesn't exist. For real manned P2P travel, you need to build what is essentially a heavy orbital booster. How exactly would VG do that exactly?All unsupported and pretty biased commentary. There’s nothing in this post that says why anyone should take any notice of what amounts to little more than a soapbox rant.
All unsupported and pretty biased commentary. There’s nothing in this post that says why anyone should take any notice of what amounts to little more than a soapbox rant.
...Remember this is VG. "The unveiling company". They have, and unveiled, multiple hangers, a spaceport, a number of carrier airplanes, an official Vodka, an official hotel chain, an official dog food brand (no the last one is a joke)They issue PRs when a run-of-the-mill 747 takes off towards Mojave, arrives at Mojave, takes a flight around Mojave...You know the one thing they don't have? That's right - a SpaceShip. Or rather a suborbital glider, since that vehicle is not a spaceship, even if you insist on calling a 5 minute suborbital "going into space".So SS3 - it's not a thing they can pursue, since it doesn't exist. For real manned P2P travel, you need to build what is essentially a heavy orbital booster. How exactly would VG do that exactly?
At about 1:25 in Branson briefly talks to the new aeroplane. Claims Virgin are building it and it will go at Mach 4 or 5.
‘We know you’ve waited a long time,’ Virgin Galactic saysBy Andrew Oxford | The New Mexican Nov 8, 2017Virgin Galactic says to be patient, New Mexico. It is coming.Officials from the company at the center of Spaceport America’s hopes for success say they are getting ready for a “big move,” with plans to base an additional 85 employees in the Las Cruces area over the next year.
Virgin Galactic to relocate dozens of Mojave employees to SpaceportNext year could finally bring some things New Mexico has been waiting on for years: Virgin Galactic's commercial space flights, and the economic prosperity that would follow.
QuoteVirgin Galactic to relocate dozens of Mojave employees to SpaceportNext year could finally bring some things New Mexico has been waiting on for years: Virgin Galactic's commercial space flights, and the economic prosperity that would follow.https://www.bizjournals.com/albuquerque/news/2017/12/06/virgin-galactic-to-move-mojave-desert-team-to.html
Interesting note in this article about Virgin Galactic SpaceShipTwo flights at Spaceport America: they’ll take place on Thursdays, after training there Monday through Wednesday: http://www.dchieftain.com/news/space-tourism-to-launch-in/article_da9df51a-e05d-11e7-8b7d-2f5c4be72d91.html