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Offline yg1968

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21st Century Space Launch Complex
« on: 07/03/2011 04:47 am »
Here is a couple of presentations on the 21st century space launch complex. I think that it's worth having a dedicated thread on this topic.
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20110010936_2011009529.pdf
http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/553721main_Kunz%2021st%20CGSP%20NAC%205-3-11final.pdf
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Re: 21st Century Space Launch Complex
« Reply #2 on: 07/03/2011 11:39 pm »
Wbo did the artwork in that PDF? F9/FH are grossly wrong in their scale.
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Re: 21st Century Space Launch Complex
« Reply #3 on: 07/03/2011 11:57 pm »
Wbo did the artwork in that PDF? F9/FH are grossly wrong in their scale.

No, they're spot-on. FH is 178' to the top of its payload shroud, DIVH is 235'. Shuttle stack is 184'. That's what nice dense RP-1 lets you do. :)

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Re: 21st Century Space Launch Complex
« Reply #4 on: 07/04/2011 12:56 am »
Wbo did the artwork in that PDF? F9/FH are grossly wrong in their scale.

No, they're spot-on. FH is 178' to the top of its payload shroud....

Hmmmm....not according to SpaceX -

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FALCON HEAVY

Mass to LEO (200 km, 28.5 deg): 53,000 kg (117,000 lb)
Overall Length: 69.2 m (227 ft)
Width (body): 3.6 m (12 ft) x 11.6 m (38 ft)
Width (fairing): 5.2 m (17 ft)
Mass on liftoff: 1,400,000 kg (3,100,000 lb)
Thrust on liftoff: 17 MN (3,800,000 lbf)
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Re: 21st Century Space Launch Complex
« Reply #5 on: 07/04/2011 01:32 am »
That's the stretched version. The FH depicted in the PDF is not stretched, and is the same height as the two flown F9s.

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Re: 21st Century Space Launch Complex
« Reply #6 on: 07/04/2011 01:45 am »
IF there are stretched and non-stretched versions (reference?) then by virtue of its placement on the graphic the largest should have been the one portrayed - that or both. Otherwise it's like publishing a story on large American sedans and not including the Lincoln Town Car.
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Re: 21st Century Space Launch Complex
« Reply #7 on: 07/04/2011 08:08 pm »
IF there are stretched and non-stretched versions (reference?) then by virtue of its placement on the graphic the largest should have been the one portrayed - that or both. Otherwise it's like publishing a story on large American sedans and not including the Lincoln Town Car.

I thinks it is organized according to payload to LEO and not according to physical size of the launcher.  The unstretched version (everything announced pre-April 2011) claimed heavier payloads to LEO from F9H (32000 kg) than delta 4 heavy.  The FH (53000 kg to LEO) would fit somewhere on either side of shuttle depending on if you consider the orbiter a payload or not.  And FH will look just as skinny as the F9H depicted in the image.  Just taller. 
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Re: 21st Century Space Launch Complex
« Reply #8 on: 07/05/2011 11:45 pm »
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Re: 21st Century Space Launch Complex
« Reply #9 on: 07/20/2012 05:35 pm »
Is there a weblink available please to download the PowerPoint presentation to KSC All Hands that Mr. Cabana made on 13 July 2012 entitled "Charting a Path to KSC's Future."

Thank you.

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Re: 21st Century Space Launch Complex
« Reply #10 on: 07/20/2012 05:40 pm »
You have to subscribe to L2 to have it. If it's on L2, it's not public.

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Re: 21st Century Space Launch Complex
« Reply #11 on: 07/21/2012 01:06 am »
You have to subscribe to L2 to have it. If it's on L2, it's not public.
Technically, it might get public later. No guarantees, though. So L2 is exclusives plus early access.

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Re: 21st Century Space Launch Complex
« Reply #12 on: 07/21/2012 03:13 pm »
You have to subscribe to L2 to have it. If it's on L2, it's not public.
Technically, it might get public later. No guarantees, though. So L2 is exclusives plus early access.

That one won't be going public, 99.9 percent of L2 does not eventually go public, but we're happy to supply Chris with them as he creates the best write ups.

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/07/ksc-all-hands-spaceport-adapt-nasa-changes/

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