Theoretically speaking, a H2/Be mixture with LOX oxidizer is shown here to give abnormally large Isp figures (something like 540 Isp vac possible). Has something like this been tried in the past? Does it make sense for LV usage?Another one shown is H2/Li with Fluorine as the oxidizer. Again, does it make sense?
If the pressure upstream is too low, a shock wave will form at some point in the nozzle resulting in subsonic exit flow.
There is a thread on fluorine and it is not a good idea to use it.
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Quote from: SWGlassPit on 11/02/2015 04:19 pm If the pressure upstream is too low, a shock wave will form at some point in the nozzle resulting in subsonic exit flow.Interesting. Would you mind going a bit more into the detail as for the conditions needed for this to happen (or to avoid it)?
If the ambient pressure is higher than the nozzle exit pressure, you won't get supersonic flow.
Is it possible to use centrifugal force/energy, to subdue, separate, control and expell atoms in a desired direction/path?