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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #1240 on: 07/22/2014 11:06 am »
Presentation from the latest Sounding Rocket Working Group.

http://rscience.gsfc.nasa.gov/Presentations/Full_SRWG_Briefing-July-2014_FINAL.pdf

Available on a public website (not internal to NASA, or at least so I believe). Let me know if people have any problems accessing.

Edit: This working group was held a few days before the Improved Malemute launch failure.
« Last Edit: 07/22/2014 11:07 am by block51 »

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #1241 on: 07/23/2014 07:08 am »
The Degradation Free Spectrometers for Solar Physics experiment (mission 36.289 US) was successfully launched at 3:10 pm EDT on July 22, 2014, from the White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico. Flying on a NASA Black Brant IX suborbital sounding rocket, the experiment flew to 199 miles altitude.
Good science data was received on all four instruments. Recovery of the payload is in progress.

Source: http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/mission-to-study-the-suns-energy/

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #1242 on: 07/24/2014 05:45 am »
Presentation from the latest Sounding Rocket Working Group.

Thanks. Lots of interesting information there. From page 70:

"* Shark 1 launched March 11 and required 4 launchers
* Shark 2 launches August 15 and 4 launchers are requested again"

Anybody know what vehicles they used on these launchers? Of local interest

"Official Letter of Request sent to CISRO to use the Woomera Test Range in Sept. 2016 time frame."
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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #1243 on: 07/24/2014 10:33 am »
Presentation from the latest Sounding Rocket Working Group.

Thanks. Lots of interesting information there. From page 70:

"* Shark 1 launched March 11 and required 4 launchers
* Shark 2 launches August 15 and 4 launchers are requested again"

Anybody know what vehicles they used on these launchers? Of local interest

"Official Letter of Request sent to CISRO to use the Woomera Test Range in Sept. 2016 time frame."

I believe the Shark launches were conducted on Terrier-Lynx vehicles. Targets for the DOD (Navy specifically, I think).
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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #1244 on: 07/24/2014 01:24 pm »
The one from that presentation that got my attention is 12.077T, the first Peregrine test flight.  Apparently it will be carrying an experiment from "Murbach."  If memory serves, he was in charge of the SOAREX series.

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #1245 on: 07/24/2014 02:13 pm »
The one from that presentation that got my attention is 12.077T, the first Peregrine test flight.  Apparently it will be carrying an experiment from "Murbach."  If memory serves, he was in charge of the SOAREX series.
The "Murbach" mentioned in the presentation is, in fact, the same Dr. Marc Murbach that has been the PI on the SOAREX flights.

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #1246 on: 07/24/2014 04:00 pm »
Thank you for that.

Perchance, would you happen to know, kind sir, what he is flying on this one?

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #1247 on: 07/29/2014 07:53 am »
China has conducted a missile test on July 23.

"The U.S. says China has tested a missile designed to destroy satellites and is urging Beijing to refrain from destabilizing actions.

State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf said the "non-destructive" test occurred Wednesday. She said a previous destructive test of the system in 2007 created thousands of pieces of dangerous debris in space.

Harf said Friday that the continued development and testing of destructive anti-satellite systems threaten the long-term security and sustainability of the outer-space environment that all nations depend upon."

source: http://www.spacenews.com/article/military-space/41390us-says-china-tested-anti-satellite-missile
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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #1248 on: 07/30/2014 06:22 am »
How do you determine the difference between a normal ballistic missile test from an anti-satellite test if there is no intercept? Both tests would involve a ballistic trajectory. Perhaps there was some course corrections at satellite height, but then that could have been from an anti-missile test without the opposing missile (a test which the US has done in the past).
« Last Edit: 07/30/2014 06:24 am by Steven Pietrobon »
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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #1249 on: 07/31/2014 06:17 pm »
2014 Student Rocket Launch

Published on Jul 31, 2014

On July 26, 2014, three high-power sport rockets built and refurbished by interns at United Launch Alliance launched 18 payloads built by interns from Ball Aerospace & Technologies Corp interns and K-12 students from Colorado, Ohio and Alabama. Over an eight-week period, working on their own time, the ULA and Ball Aerospace interns design, build and test the rockets and the payloads (onboard instruments/experiments that are deployed after launch) with the guidance of mentors from both companies. The 25-foot-tall Future rocket is the tallest to launch from Colorado.

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #1250 on: 08/01/2014 07:02 am »
The video shows only two launchers, "Stars n Stripes" and the two stage "Future". Did the third one fail? Here's the press release. The third vehicle was called “Atlas IV" (so that's the missing Atlas vehicle! :-)

http://www.ulalaunch.com/ula-and-ball-aerospace-student-rocket.aspx?title=United+Launch+Alliance+and+Ball+Aerospace+Student+Rocket+Launch+Takes+STEM+Education+to+New+Heights

"This year’s lineup of rockets included the 25-foot-tall “Future” which carried 15 payloads to an altitude of approximately 9,000 feet above the ground. The “Stars ‘N’ Stripes” is a 20-foot rocket and carried two payloads, and the “Atlas IV,” at 10 feet tall, deployed a single payload."
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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #1251 on: 08/04/2014 02:22 pm »
JAXA has just launched a S-310 sounding rocket (S-310-43 - with some heat transfer and phased flow experiments on board) from the Uchinoura Space Center at 14:00 UTC - updates to come soon.....

(another one - S-520-29 targeting observations of the E-layer of the ionosphere - is planned on August 8 at 10:00 UTC)
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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #1252 on: 08/04/2014 06:07 pm »
Images from the S-310-43 launch (images from http://www.sacj.org/openbbs/)

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #1253 on: 08/17/2014 05:44 pm »
JAXA has just launched a S-310 sounding rocket (S-310-43 - with some heat transfer and phased flow experiments on board) from the Uchinoura Space Center at 14:00 UTC - updates to come soon.....

(another one - S-520-29 targeting observations of the E-layer of the ionosphere - is planned on August 8 at 10:00 UTC)

....after several weather and ionosphere condition related scrubs, S-520-29 has been launched on August 17 at 10:10 UTC. Apogee was at 243 km.
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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #1254 on: 08/19/2014 03:13 pm »
As it says unusual to get such a long speech on this topic from the horse's mouth so too speak.

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HUNTSVILLE, Ala. – The U.S. Missile Defense Agency plans to address one of its more frequent criticisms head on by conducting seven tests before 2024 against ICBM-class targets, the MDA’s director said Aug. 13.

Navy Vice Adm. James Syring said during the Space and Missile Defense Symposium here that the target in the most recent missile defense test reached near-ICBM speeds.

In the June 22 test of the Ground-based Midcourse Defense system, a long-range target missile built by Lockheed Martin Space Systems of Sunnyvale, California, was launched from the Kwajalein Atoll in the Pacific Ocean and tracked by the Aegis Weapon System aboard the USS Hopper and by the Sea-Based X-band radar, according to press releases from the Defense Department and GMD prime contractor Boeing Defense, Space & Security of St. Louis. About six minutes later, a GMD interceptor launched from Vandenberg Air Force Base, California, and destroyed the target by force of impact.

In one of the longest speeches of his tenure – Syring rarely grants interviews or holds media briefings – he outlined the cause of every missile defense intercept failure over the last 10 years, pointing to hurried production schedules and what he described as minor, and typical, technical problems. The GMD failed in three straight intercept tests before its June 22 success.

http://www.spacenews.com/article/military-space/41609syring-answers-critics-in-address-to-missile-defense-conference
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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #1255 on: 08/19/2014 10:33 pm »
As it says unusual to get such a long speech on this topic from the horse's mouth so too speak.

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HUNTSVILLE, Ala. – The U.S. Missile Defense Agency plans to address one of its more frequent criticisms head on by conducting seven tests before 2024 against ICBM-class targets, the MDA’s director said Aug. 13.

Navy Vice Adm. James Syring said during the Space and Missile Defense Symposium here that the target in the most recent missile defense test reached near-ICBM speeds.

In the June 22 test of the Ground-based Midcourse Defense system, a long-range target missile built by Lockheed Martin Space Systems of Sunnyvale, California, was launched from the Kwajalein Atoll in the Pacific Ocean and tracked by the Aegis Weapon System aboard the USS Hopper and by the Sea-Based X-band radar, according to press releases from the Defense Department and GMD prime contractor Boeing Defense, Space & Security of St. Louis. About six minutes later, a GMD interceptor launched from Vandenberg Air Force Base, California, and destroyed the target by force of impact.

In one of the longest speeches of his tenure – Syring rarely grants interviews or holds media briefings – he outlined the cause of every missile defense intercept failure over the last 10 years, pointing to hurried production schedules and what he described as minor, and typical, technical problems. The GMD failed in three straight intercept tests before its June 22 success.

http://www.spacenews.com/article/military-space/41609syring-answers-critics-in-address-to-missile-defense-conference
Here's the problem.  They are planning only seven tests during the next 10 years, and they highlight that as a good thing.  They should be testing seven times or more per year.

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #1256 on: 08/24/2014 07:09 am »
A Terrier-Lynx suborbital rocket was successfully launched for the Department of Defense this evening at 9:13 p.m. EDT (Aug 23) from NASA’s Wallops Flight Facility.

The next launch scheduled from Wallops is a NASA Black Brant IX suborbital sounding rocket for a technology demonstration between 5 and 6 a.m., Thursday, August, 28.

Source: Wallops facebook

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #1257 on: 08/25/2014 02:08 pm »
Judging by this article it looks like the USAF is going to effectively end up something you might as well call Minuteman IV.

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During a major Air Force study effort of what the new GBSD missile should be — with options ranging from a simple Minuteman 3 look-alike to a brand new design — the service settled on what it has called a “hybrid” concept. This recommendation emerging from the “analysis of alternatives” — begun last year and completed in early July — has been tentatively approved in recent meetings with Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel’s office, Nextgov has learned.

The hybrid plan for the Minuteman 3 replacement would involve using some of today’s missile features — its basic design, communications systems and existing launch silos — while replacing aging  rocket motors and targeting-guidance systems.

http://www.defenseone.com/management/2014/08/budget-cuts-delay-new-nuclear-missile-two-years/91859/?oref=d-river

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #1258 on: 08/26/2014 03:33 pm »
I split/merged the Kodiak related posts to this new thread, which is in the Live area for now

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=35488.0  (Advanced hypersonic weapon destroyed during U.S. test )

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #1259 on: 09/03/2014 12:13 pm »
Brazil launched the VS-30 (V13) sounding-rocket at 0202UTC on September 2. The launch took place from the Alcântara Launch Center (Centro de Lançamento de Alcântara, CLA).

On board was the EPL (Estágio Propulsivo Líquido - Liquid Propulsion Stage) that worked for 90 seconds as expected, burning LOX and ethanol. The EPL is composed by the L5 engine, developed by IAE (Instituto de Aeronáutica e Espaço, Aeronautic and Space Institute) and the feeding system 'Sistema de Alimentação (SAMF)', developed by the Brazilian company Orbital Engenharia.

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