Here is an update on the private space race:http://www.compositesworld.com/articles/the-private-space-race
“No single commercial system will represent the critical path,” says Garver.
HUMAN RATING REQUIREMENTS.—Not later than 60 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Administrator shall develop and make available to the public detailed human rating processes and requirements to guide the design of commercially-developed crew transportation capabilities, which requirements shall be at least equivalent to proven requirements for crew transportation in use as of the date of the enactment of this Act.
On page 41 of S.3729, Section 403(b)(1) says:QuoteHUMAN RATING REQUIREMENTS.—Not later than 60 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Administrator shall develop and make available to the public detailed human rating processes and requirements to guide the design of commercially-developed crew transportation capabilities, which requirements shall be at least equivalent to proven requirements for crew transportation in use as of the date of the enactment of this Act.Can anyone knowledgeably expand on what those guidelines will likely include?
Progress reports of the CCDEV work for [...] 2010 from the recovery.gov website.Blue Origin:http://www.recovery.gov/Transparency/RecipientReportedData/pages/RecipientProjectSummary508.aspx?AwardIdSur=90717&AwardType=GrantsBoeing/Bigelow Aerospace:http://www.recovery.gov/Transparency/RecipientReportedData/pages/RecipientProjectSummary508.aspx?AwardIdSur=99382&AwardType=GrantsParagon Space Development Corporation:http://www.recovery.gov/Transparency/RecipientReportedData/pages/RecipientProjectSummary508.aspx?AwardIdSur=89751&AwardType=GrantsSierra Nevada Corporationhttp://www.recovery.gov/Transparency/RecipientReportedData/pages/RecipientProjectSummary508.aspx?AwardIdSur=90258&AwardType=GrantsUnited Launch Alliancehttp://www.recovery.gov/Transparency/RecipientReportedData/pages/RecipientProjectSummary508.aspx?AwardIdSur=89244&AwardType=Grants
http://www.commercialspaceflight.org/Other%20Content/High-Resolution%20Version%20-%20CCDev%20Significant%20Hardware%20Milestones%20Reached%20-%20Nov%208%202010.pdf
Quote from: yg1968 on 09/01/2010 04:31 pmHere is an update on the private space race:http://www.compositesworld.com/articles/the-private-space-raceI found this line encouraging:Quote“No single commercial system will represent the critical path,” says Garver.
Quote from: Robotbeat on 09/01/2010 04:42 pmQuote from: yg1968 on 09/01/2010 04:31 pmHere is an update on the private space race:http://www.compositesworld.com/articles/the-private-space-raceI found this line encouraging:Quote“No single commercial system will represent the critical path,” says Garver. That's because, right now, they are all in the crtical path.
... Shuttle could be stretched to provide a bit of cushion to ISS until commercial is running and there is some confidence behind it.
Quote from: OV-106 on 11/09/2010 06:04 pm... Shuttle could be stretched to provide a bit of cushion to ISS until commercial is running and there is some confidence behind it. How do you stretch Shuttle when you do not have the ETs needed to fly?Shuttle is history. (And, no, it was not Obama who killed it.)
Quote from: OV-106 on 11/09/2010 05:30 pmQuote from: Robotbeat on 09/01/2010 04:42 pmQuote from: yg1968 on 09/01/2010 04:31 pmHere is an update on the private space race:http://www.compositesworld.com/articles/the-private-space-raceI found this line encouraging:Quote“No single commercial system will represent the critical path,” says Garver. That's because, right now, they are all in the crtical path. Sure, but with commercial crew it's an OR boolean function rather than an AND.
Yes and no and it depends on how you slice it. "Cargo" is in the critical path and will be until someone makes it there with some confidence. "Crew" is in another critical path and will be until someone makes it there with some conficence.Now, once you have one player for each category, will "cargo" be sufficient, and launch frequently enough, to sustain ISS with a six person crew and perform the capabilities Station was intended and fill the void of Shuttle or will more than one provider be required for that?Same thing with "crew", and depending on depending on other markets, will it be cheaper than Russia?So, in other words, I think we're selling the more complex issues a little short with statements like this and what the DA suggested.
What? That has zero relevence on the conversation. Orion is not meant to go to ISS unless absolutely necessary as a back-up.
Quote from: OV-106 on 11/09/2010 08:11 pmWhat? That has zero relevence on the conversation. Orion is not meant to go to ISS unless absolutely necessary as a back-up. LEO destinations such as the ISS are the only places the Orion can go until the Ares V (or equivalent) flies.http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/491544main_orion_book_web.pdf
Come on. I recognize your username as well as certain others above. I know you, and certain others, have been coming to this site for sometime. Because of that, I realize that you, and certain others, should very well know it will not take Ares V or equivalent to lift Orion. Most importantly I also realize that you, and others, should very well know what is called out, and how, in the 2010 Authorization Act.
The J-130 will only get the Orion to LEO.