Quote from: russianhalo117 on 01/17/2015 06:42 pmQuote from: russianhalo117 on 12/04/2014 04:20 pmQuote from: Stan Black on 12/04/2014 10:13 amAt the same time as 14Ф156 appears, there is also the appearance of a new code 14К046. ‘К’ is for the entire system of rocket, satellite… whilst ‘Ф’ is for just the satellite. Are the too connected?Quote«Разработка ЭП на программное обеспечение планирования и управления оптико-электронного наблюдения изделия 14К046»http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/purchase/info/common-info.html?noticeId=1801997I'm looking into it with some people.Answer seems to be maybe yes. Only problem is older files don't match with the file in your link. I guess it's your call or some deeper research.I have found they reference the same contract 14-4-51/539/ЗК от 19.06.2014г.?
Quote from: russianhalo117 on 12/04/2014 04:20 pmQuote from: Stan Black on 12/04/2014 10:13 amAt the same time as 14Ф156 appears, there is also the appearance of a new code 14К046. ‘К’ is for the entire system of rocket, satellite… whilst ‘Ф’ is for just the satellite. Are the too connected?Quote«Разработка ЭП на программное обеспечение планирования и управления оптико-электронного наблюдения изделия 14К046»http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/purchase/info/common-info.html?noticeId=1801997I'm looking into it with some people.Answer seems to be maybe yes. Only problem is older files don't match with the file in your link. I guess it's your call or some deeper research.
Quote from: Stan Black on 12/04/2014 10:13 amAt the same time as 14Ф156 appears, there is also the appearance of a new code 14К046. ‘К’ is for the entire system of rocket, satellite… whilst ‘Ф’ is for just the satellite. Are the too connected?Quote«Разработка ЭП на программное обеспечение планирования и управления оптико-электронного наблюдения изделия 14К046»http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/purchase/info/common-info.html?noticeId=1801997I'm looking into it with some people.
At the same time as 14Ф156 appears, there is also the appearance of a new code 14К046. ‘К’ is for the entire system of rocket, satellite… whilst ‘Ф’ is for just the satellite. Are the too connected?Quote«Разработка ЭП на программное обеспечение планирования и управления оптико-электронного наблюдения изделия 14К046»http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/purchase/info/common-info.html?noticeId=1801997
«Разработка ЭП на программное обеспечение планирования и управления оптико-электронного наблюдения изделия 14К046»
Salo пишет: QuoteПо предварительным планам, запуск первого "Раздана" космические войска планируют провести с космодрома Плесецк в 2019 году, второго — в 2022-м, третьего — в 2024-м. Подробнее: http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3049019
По предварительным планам, запуск первого "Раздана" космические войска планируют провести с космодрома Плесецк в 2019 году, второго — в 2022-м, третьего — в 2024-м. Подробнее: http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3049019
It would be so useful if posts like the one above had the Russian text translated into English (please) - after all, this is an English-language web site. Isn't it?
A quick summary of the 28 July 2016 Kommersant article on Razdan mentioned in Stan Black's post Data from civilian satellites such as Resurs and Kanonus have already been used to complement information from the Persona satellites during Russia's military campaign in Syria, which has again brought to the foreground the importance of space-based military reconnaissance.
A quick summary of the 28 July 2016 Kommersant article on Razdan mentioned in Stan Black's post :Quoting two industry sources and one military source, Kommersant's Ivan Sarfonov says TsSKB/Progress is working on a new generation of digital reconnaissance satellites (14F156/Razdan) that are supposed to replace the Persona satellites. 14F156 is also mentioned in an updated plan of acquisitions that appeared on the Progress website a couple of days ago. It's also known that in July 2015 the company ordered a study to determine among other things how much of the satellite's on-board electronics is foreign-built and how much of the equipment is subject to "export restrictions" (read : components that can no longer be exported to Russia due to the economic sanctions may have to be replaced by Russian-built components and this can lead to delays in the construction of the satellites). The first Razdan is tentatively scheduled for launch from Plesetsk in 2019, the second in 2022 and the third in 2024. The third one will be the first to carry a new 2 meter mirror that will be built by the Zverev factory in Krasnogorsk (and not by the LOMO company that built the optics for Persona). Currently the Russians still have two operational Persona satellites in orbit. If they break down early or if the launch of the first Razdan is delayed, the Russian military will have to rely on data from civilian Earth remote sensing satellites to fill the gap. Data from civilian satellites such as Resurs and Kanonus have already been used to complement information from the Persona satellites during Russia's military campaign in Syria, which has again brought to the foreground the importance of space-based military reconnaissance.
All go into SSO. Up to four you get better revisiting time, but you cover the whole world, eventually.
Quote from: B. Hendrickx on 07/31/2016 02:58 pmA quick summary of the 28 July 2016 Kommersant article on Razdan mentioned in Stan Black's post Data from civilian satellites such as Resurs and Kanonus have already been used to complement information from the Persona satellites during Russia's military campaign in Syria, which has again brought to the foreground the importance of space-based military reconnaissance. Space based reconnaissance isn't as important when you are free to conduct aircraft based recon, at will, anywhere in the region you are interested in...
Quote from: baldusi on 07/31/2016 08:37 pmAll go into SSO. Up to four you get better revisiting time, but you cover the whole world, eventually.The KH-11 network up until recently was apparently maintained at four, two east and two west.
Quote from: Star One on 07/31/2016 09:18 pmQuote from: baldusi on 07/31/2016 08:37 pmAll go into SSO. Up to four you get better revisiting time, but you cover the whole world, eventually.The KH-11 network up until recently was apparently maintained at four, two east and two west.The context was theRussian Persona spy satellite. The American Molnyia orbiting sats are a different case
Quote from: baldusi on 08/01/2016 04:40 pmQuote from: Star One on 07/31/2016 09:18 pmQuote from: baldusi on 07/31/2016 08:37 pmAll go into SSO. Up to four you get better revisiting time, but you cover the whole world, eventually.The KH-11 network up until recently was apparently maintained at four, two east and two west.The context was theRussian Persona spy satellite. The American Molnyia orbiting sats are a different caseI don't understand your point as far as I am aware Persona is the Russian equivalent to the KH-11, especially as the KH-11 do not occupy Molniya orbits.
Quote from: baldusi on 08/01/2016 04:40 pmQuote from: Star One on 07/31/2016 09:18 pmQuote from: baldusi on 07/31/2016 08:37 pmAll go into SSO. Up to four you get better revisiting time, but you cover the whole world, eventually.The KH-11 network up until recently was apparently maintained at four, two east and two west.The context was the Russian Persona spy satellite. The American Molnyia orbiting sats are a different caseI don't understand your point as far as I am aware Persona is the Russian equivalent to the KH-11, especially as the KH-11 do not occupy Molniya orbits.
Quote from: Star One on 07/31/2016 09:18 pmQuote from: baldusi on 07/31/2016 08:37 pmAll go into SSO. Up to four you get better revisiting time, but you cover the whole world, eventually.The KH-11 network up until recently was apparently maintained at four, two east and two west.The context was the Russian Persona spy satellite. The American Molnyia orbiting sats are a different case
Quote from: Star One on 08/01/2016 07:01 pmQuote from: baldusi on 08/01/2016 04:40 pmQuote from: Star One on 07/31/2016 09:18 pmQuote from: baldusi on 07/31/2016 08:37 pmAll go into SSO. Up to four you get better revisiting time, but you cover the whole world, eventually.The KH-11 network up until recently was apparently maintained at four, two east and two west.The context was the Russian Persona spy satellite. The American Molnyia orbiting sats are a different caseI don't understand your point as far as I am aware Persona is the Russian equivalent to the KH-11, especially as the KH-11 do not occupy Molniya orbits.I was slightly confused. But KH-11 use a different SSO than Persona. The Persona orbits are practically circular, while the latest KH-11 are more elliptic. In the Russian case they are pretty much the same in any side of the orbit, but in the American case it is not so.Please remember that for SSO you always fly around the terminator line. And typical orbit time is less than 2 hrs, normally more like 1hr. For feature analysis, a long shadow is desirable, and so the KH-11 are optimized for a certain apogee. Thus, through each orbit, they will go through a sunrise and a sunset terminator. Again, since their orbits are not circular, they positioned for shadows East or shadows West.Persona can take pictures on both passes.The problem with one satellite is that the orbital period and the rotation of the Earth might mean you miss the place you want on a morning or evening. But you get nothing for midnight and noon.
Quote from: russianhalo117 on 06/25/2017 04:17 pmQuote from: Stan Black on 06/25/2017 08:58 amhttp://www.glonass-center.ru/aboutIAC/Report%20by%20Kosenko%20Zvonar_3.pdf Is it possible there are two Nivelir projects?yes.Nivelir-ZU (RKTs Progress with NPO Lavochkin) and Nivelir-MNK-OZS (ISS Reshetnev) are the two known projects at this time although a third project via RKK Energia is hinted in documentation from time to time.http://russianspaceweb.com/napryazhenie.htmlWell, you would then talk about six projects, namely:NivelirNivelir-ZUNivelir-LNivelir-L-ZUNivelir-PNivelir-MNK-OZS.It's too many for me -- I persume there is one or two main project(s) and a lot of subprojects, both listed above and still unknown.Also, I absolutely don't see any relation between Nivelir-L and Napryazheniye-L projects other than NPP OPTEKS ordered some electronic components for both.
Quote from: Stan Black on 06/25/2017 08:58 amhttp://www.glonass-center.ru/aboutIAC/Report%20by%20Kosenko%20Zvonar_3.pdf Is it possible there are two Nivelir projects?yes.Nivelir-ZU (RKTs Progress with NPO Lavochkin) and Nivelir-MNK-OZS (ISS Reshetnev) are the two known projects at this time although a third project via RKK Energia is hinted in documentation from time to time.http://russianspaceweb.com/napryazhenie.html
http://www.glonass-center.ru/aboutIAC/Report%20by%20Kosenko%20Zvonar_3.pdf Is it possible there are two Nivelir projects?
По договорам с ОАО «ИСС» г. Железногорск на СЧ ОКР «Сфера-НК», «Сфера-УКС», «Сфера-УСС», «Сфера-ПКП», «Сфера-АСС», «Сфера-АМС», «Сфера-АПУ» выполнена разработка ЭТП по созданию земных средств связи космической системы 14К044(«Сфера»). В 2013г. разрабатывались и согласовывались технические задания и оформлялись договора для проведения разработки РКД и изготовления опытных образцов семейства станций космической системы «Сфера».
Мы продуктивно сотрудничаем с вами в области создания автономной системы навигации для космических аппаратов, таких как «Арктика-М», «Резонанс», «Нивелир» и других.
Quote from: Phillip Clark on 02/25/2015 05:38 pmOn January 16 Stan Black posted some information concerning the Pribor optical system, 14V333.The satellite is rather reminiscent of Progress representations of the Persona-1/Kvarts satellite, the major difference being that Persona-1 has four sets of solar panels while the new depiction shows two sets. Sticking my neck out - which I often do and then live to regret it - I wonder if this could be a Persona-2 satellite?RKTs Progress have ordered two 14В333 from LOMO; to meet their commitments under contract №З/2/1/12-14-ДОГОЗ from 27th August 2014.QuoteИзделие 14В333ИКШЮ.201219.007 №3ИКШЮ.201219.007 №4http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/purchase/info/common-info.html?noticeId=2190427
On January 16 Stan Black posted some information concerning the Pribor optical system, 14V333.The satellite is rather reminiscent of Progress representations of the Persona-1/Kvarts satellite, the major difference being that Persona-1 has four sets of solar panels while the new depiction shows two sets. Sticking my neck out - which I often do and then live to regret it - I wonder if this could be a Persona-2 satellite?
Изделие 14В333ИКШЮ.201219.007 №3ИКШЮ.201219.007 №4
«Проведение дополнительных испытаний ЭКБ ОП для комплектации аппаратуры СУ ОТМ и плат управления СФК (ПУ) изделия 14В333 (ШО-5, ШО-6) объекта 14Ф148, включая проведение входного контроля, отбраковочных испытаний, диагностического неразрушающего контроля, разрушающего физического анализа»
Quote from: russianhalo117 on 06/23/2017 09:10 pmfairing serial is 98 KS 1000-0 Launcher serial is No. 78072003Payload is called Nivelir-ZU No.1 (14F150)http://russianspaceweb.com/napryazhenie.htmlQuote…The Nivelir project reaches launch pad?The Russian government has released very little information about the upcoming flight, but it appears that it might be carrying the first of several 14F150 Napryazhenie geodetic satellites developed within the Nivelir-ZU project. The Russian word "napryazhenie" stands for voltage, while "nivelir" means level.…‘ZU’ is a component?From Progress procurement plan of 2013 there are four entries:-QuoteПоставка ЭРИ ОП и ЭРИ ИП в обеспечение комплектования ЗУ ОКР «Нивелир» Изготовление и поставка модулей ЗУ для изделия 14Ф150 (ОКР «Нивелир-ЗУ»)Поставка ЭРИ ИП в обеспечение омплектования ЗУ для ЭО КА «Напряжение»Изготовление и поставка модулей ЗУ для ЭО КА «Напряжение»ОКР - опытно-конструкторские работыКА is the abbreviation for satellite.‘Nivelir-ZU’ is the name of the work, not the satellite?In 2014:-QuoteПоставка модулей ХП-М, ЦСВВ, ЗУ в обеспечение комплектования ОКР «Нивелир-Л-ЗУ»Поставка ЭРИ ОП и ЭРИ ИП в обеспечение комплектования ЗУ ОКР «Нивелир»Поставка ЭРИ ИП в обеспечение комплектования ЗУ для ЭО КА «Напряжение»From 2015:-QuoteМодули ХП-М, ЦСВВ, ЗУ для изделия КА 14Ф155Поставка модулей ХП-М, ЗУ, ЦСВВ для образца технологического блока ЗУ для стенда КА 14Ф150Progress procurement plans can be found here:-http://www.samspace.ru/zakupki/plany_zakupok/Further indication Nivelir-L and Napryazhenie-L are different satellites:-Quote1.3. В целях расширения рынка сбыта выпускаемых приборов проводится согласованиепротоколов разрешённого применения на применение приборов на КА «Спектр-РГ», «Нивелир-Л», «Напряжение-Л», «Резонанс», 14Ф01.http://www.geofizika-cosmos.ru/assets/files/otchyotnost/godovoj-otchet-2013.pdfJust to confirm Mr. Pillet’s information that 14Ф150 was a payload for a Soyuz rocket, comes from TSENKI procurement plan of 2015:-QuoteДооборудование СК 17П32-С4 под КА 14Ф150http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/plan/public/download/download.html?id=1677613 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=26990.msg1339253#msg1339253Also possibly the connection with Lavochkin can be found from this entry in Progress procurement plan:-QuoteИзготовление и поставка модулей ХП-М, ЦСВВ, ЗУ для аппаратуры МКА-ФКИAs to its function, the only piece of information is this:-Quote4 ЦНИИ МО РФ совместно с кооперацией подготовлена и представлена заказчику тематическая карточка на проведение базовой НИР «Нивелир-П» в 2014- 2015 годы «Комплексные исследования путей создания многоярусной космиче- ской системы мониторинга геодезических параметров Земли в интересах обеспечения стратегических сил и высокоточного оружия. Экспериментальная отработка ключевых элементов системы».http://www.glonass-center.ru/aboutIAC/Report%20by%20Kosenko%20Zvonar_3.pdf Is it possible there are two Nivelir projects?
fairing serial is 98 KS 1000-0 Launcher serial is No. 78072003Payload is called Nivelir-ZU No.1 (14F150)http://russianspaceweb.com/napryazhenie.htmlQuote…The Nivelir project reaches launch pad?The Russian government has released very little information about the upcoming flight, but it appears that it might be carrying the first of several 14F150 Napryazhenie geodetic satellites developed within the Nivelir-ZU project. The Russian word "napryazhenie" stands for voltage, while "nivelir" means level.…
…The Nivelir project reaches launch pad?The Russian government has released very little information about the upcoming flight, but it appears that it might be carrying the first of several 14F150 Napryazhenie geodetic satellites developed within the Nivelir-ZU project. The Russian word "napryazhenie" stands for voltage, while "nivelir" means level.…
Поставка ЭРИ ОП и ЭРИ ИП в обеспечение комплектования ЗУ ОКР «Нивелир» Изготовление и поставка модулей ЗУ для изделия 14Ф150 (ОКР «Нивелир-ЗУ»)Поставка ЭРИ ИП в обеспечение омплектования ЗУ для ЭО КА «Напряжение»Изготовление и поставка модулей ЗУ для ЭО КА «Напряжение»
Поставка модулей ХП-М, ЦСВВ, ЗУ в обеспечение комплектования ОКР «Нивелир-Л-ЗУ»Поставка ЭРИ ОП и ЭРИ ИП в обеспечение комплектования ЗУ ОКР «Нивелир»Поставка ЭРИ ИП в обеспечение комплектования ЗУ для ЭО КА «Напряжение»
Модули ХП-М, ЦСВВ, ЗУ для изделия КА 14Ф155Поставка модулей ХП-М, ЗУ, ЦСВВ для образца технологического блока ЗУ для стенда КА 14Ф150
1.3. В целях расширения рынка сбыта выпускаемых приборов проводится согласованиепротоколов разрешённого применения на применение приборов на КА «Спектр-РГ», «Нивелир-Л», «Напряжение-Л», «Резонанс», 14Ф01.
Дооборудование СК 17П32-С4 под КА 14Ф150
Изготовление и поставка модулей ХП-М, ЦСВВ, ЗУ для аппаратуры МКА-ФКИ
4 ЦНИИ МО РФ совместно с кооперацией подготовлена и представлена заказчику тематическая карточка на проведение базовой НИР «Нивелир-П» в 2014- 2015 годы «Комплексные исследования путей создания многоярусной космиче- ской системы мониторинга геодезических параметров Земли в интересах обеспечения стратегических сил и высокоточного оружия. Экспериментальная отработка ключевых элементов системы».
В настоящее время осуществляю руководство разработки и изготовления ЖРД для КА «Луна-Глоб», «ЭкзоМарс 2020», «14Ф155», «Федерация», «14С022».
1.5. Работа по договору выполняется в рамках контракта№1623187308641452246000340/672761 между АО «НИИЭМ» и ФГУП «НПО им. С.А. Лавочкина», заключенного во исполнение государственного контракта№1623187308641452246000340 от 29.09.2016 г. между ФГУП «ЪШО им. С.А. Лавочкина» и МО РФ. Идентификатор государственного контракта№1623 187308641452246000340.
Another purchase announced by the Russian military is of the Lotos-M reconnaissance satellite, which “will join a constellation working in the interest of the armed forces” and “provide information support for the Navy,” [the deputy Defense Minister] said. The spacecraft may be a new version of the Lotos-S signal intelligence satellite. The Russian military has two of them in orbit now and uses them as part of the Liana system, used by the Russian Navy to detect and target potentially hostile targets.