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Title: Soyuz-2.1a - Kosmos-2515 (Bars-M #2) - Plesetsk - March 24, 2016 (09:42 UTC)
Post by: Phillip Clark on 06/07/2015 02:59 PM
Might as well start the thread for the launch of the second Bars-M cartographic satellite which was scheduled for August before there was the Progress-M 27M failure to disrupt things.   Not sure what the knock-on effect might be for the Bars-M launch schedule.
Title: Re: Cosmos 25XX - Bars-M #2, Soyuz-2-1A, Plesetsk
Post by: Stan Black on 07/15/2015 03:42 PM
This tender appears to confirm that the 2nd is to go up six months after the 1st?
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/purchase/info/common-info.html?noticeId=2620876

Which supports what Mr. Pillet posted:-
I have the plan for all the Soyuz launches from Baikonur and Plesetsk for the next two years :
30.08.2015 - Soyuz-2.1a - Plesetsk 43/4 - Bars-M n°2
Title: Re: Cosmos 25XX - Bars-M #2, Soyuz-2-1A, Plesetsk
Post by: Phillip Clark on 08/09/2015 08:03 PM
Do we have any updates about the launch schedule for this mission, please?   It was going to be launched around August 30th.
Title: Re: Cosmos 25XX - Bars-M #2, Soyuz-2-1A, Plesetsk
Post by: Phillip Clark on 09/03/2015 04:22 AM
The latest launch listing from Rui is showing a "Cosmos" launch from Plesetsk in the third week of September: I wonder if this could be the second Bars-M?.
Title: Re: Cosmos 25XX - Bars-M #2, Soyuz-2-1A, Plesetsk
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 09/07/2015 07:27 AM
The latest launch listing from Rui is showing a "Cosmos" launch from Plesetsk in the third week of September: I wonder if this could be the second Bars-M?.

I don't think so, as this entry came from a quote by the general director of ISS Reshetnev (http://www.militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=1&nid=386903) that they have a satellite built for the Russian MoD to be launched from Plesetsk in late September. And here I thought that Bars-M is a TsSKB-Progress product.....  ::)
Title: Re: Cosmos 25XX - Bars-M #2, Soyuz-2-1A, Plesetsk
Post by: Phillip Clark on 09/07/2015 04:43 PM
OK, I had missed that the launch would be a Reshetnev satellite.   The second Bars-M was due at the end of August so I wonder how long it has been delayed for.
Title: Re: Cosmos 25XX - Bars-M #2, Soyuz-2-1A, Plesetsk
Post by: Stan Black on 12/24/2015 01:33 PM
There is this tender from Progress:-
Quote
Анализ допущенных отступлений от КД и ТД и оценка эффективности мер по их устранению при производстве изделий 14С46 №3-138, №6-138, 47КС №3Л, 14Ф148 №2
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/purchase/info/common-info.html?noticeId=3210202

14С46 is the Volga upper stage, with №3 to be used for the next Soyuz-2-1V and №6 for Lomonosov. 47КС is Resurs-P.
Title: Re: Cosmos 25XX - Bars-M #2, Soyuz-2-1A, Plesetsk
Post by: Phillip Clark on 02/27/2016 06:12 PM
All has been quiet on the Bars-M #2 front.   Are there any rumours of a launch schedule yet?   It was supposed to go in August last year but that slipped following the Progress problems in April.
Title: Re: Cosmos 25XX - Bars-M #2, Soyuz-2-1A, Plesetsk
Post by: Alter Sachse on 02/27/2016 07:16 PM
Wikipedia (german version)
says: Der nächste Satellit soll 2018 gestartet werden.
Title: Re: Cosmos 25XX - Bars-M #2, Soyuz-2-1A, Plesetsk
Post by: Phillip Clark on 02/27/2016 07:53 PM
Wikipedia (german version)
says: Der nächste Satellit soll 2018 gestartet werden.

Both #1 and #2 were due last year (six months apart) with #3 being due in 2018.
Title: Re: Cosmos 25XX - Bars-M #2, Soyuz-2-1A, Plesetsk
Post by: Stan Black on 02/28/2016 09:56 AM
Wikipedia (german version)
says: Der nächste Satellit soll 2018 gestartet werden.

Both #1 and #2 were due last year (six months apart) with #3 being due in 2018.

I think the 2018 date for #3 is based on the first having launched in 2013 and lasting 5 years?
Title: Re: Cosmos 25XX - Bars-M #2, Soyuz-2-1A, Plesetsk
Post by: Stan Black on 02/28/2016 10:06 AM
Notice in Anik’s serial numbers 76058161/31М135С listed under fairing 14С744. So is that the serial number of the rocket too?
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=36777.msg1493825#msg1493825
Title: Re: Cosmos 25XX - Bars-M #2, Soyuz-2-1A, Plesetsk
Post by: Phillip Clark on 02/28/2016 11:22 AM
Wikipedia (german version)
says: Der nächste Satellit soll 2018 gestartet werden.
Both #1 and #2 were due last year (six months apart) with #3 being due in 2018.
I think the 2018 date for #3 is based on the first having launched in 2013 and lasting 5 years?

That's what I wondered!
Title: Re: Cosmos 25XX - Bars-M #2, Soyuz-2-1A, Plesetsk
Post by: Alter Sachse on 02/28/2016 07:30 PM
Wikipedia not always up to date
Günter
Title: Re: Cosmos 25XX - Bars-M #2, Soyuz-2-1A, Plesetsk
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 03/23/2016 04:24 PM
Hmm..... could this be it? (http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/messages/forum12/topic15314/) Air closure zones looks legit for a Soyzu rocket launch to SSO.  ::)

G1186 / 16 - AIRSPACE CLSD WI COORD: 661000N0371000E- 660000N0382000E-653000N0383000E- 653000N0373000E-661000N0371000E. SFC - UNL, DAILY 0940-1040, 24 MAR 09:40 2016 UNTIL 29 MAR 10:40 2016. CREATED: 20 MAR 15:15 2016

G1185 / 16 - ATS RTE SEGMENTS CLSD AS FLW: A222 KUMEL - LAGAT, B488 KROTA - LIMUS, B815 EVMUV - LIMUS, B816 ATKUP - LIMUS, G476 AKATI - KROTA. SFC - UNL, DAILY 0940-1040, 24 MAR 09:40 2016 UNTIL 29 MAR 10:40 2016. CREATED: 20 MAR 06:57 2016

G1184 / 16 - TEMPO DANGER AREA ACT WI COORDINATES: 705600N 0320400E-701000N 0334000E-695400N 0324000E- 700800N 0320400E-705600N 0320400E. SFC - UNL, DAILY 0940-1040, 24 MAR 09:40 2016 UNTIL 29 MAR 10:40 2016. CREATED: 20 MAR 06:41 2016
Title: Re: Cosmos 25XX - Bars-M #2, Soyuz-2-1A, Plesetsk
Post by: russianhalo117 on 03/23/2016 04:52 PM
Hmm..... could this be it? (http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/messages/forum12/topic15314/) Air closure zones looks legit for a Soyzu rocket launch to SSO.  ::)

G1186 / 16 - AIRSPACE CLSD WI COORD: 661000N0371000E- 660000N0382000E-653000N0383000E- 653000N0373000E-661000N0371000E. SFC - UNL, DAILY 0940-1040, 24 MAR 09:40 2016 UNTIL 29 MAR 10:40 2016. CREATED: 20 MAR 15:15 2016

G1185 / 16 - ATS RTE SEGMENTS CLSD AS FLW: A222 KUMEL - LAGAT, B488 KROTA - LIMUS, B815 EVMUV - LIMUS, B816 ATKUP - LIMUS, G476 AKATI - KROTA. SFC - UNL, DAILY 0940-1040, 24 MAR 09:40 2016 UNTIL 29 MAR 10:40 2016. CREATED: 20 MAR 06:57 2016

G1184 / 16 - TEMPO DANGER AREA ACT WI COORDINATES: 705600N 0320400E-701000N 0334000E-695400N 0324000E- 700800N 0320400E-705600N 0320400E. SFC - UNL, DAILY 0940-1040, 24 MAR 09:40 2016 UNTIL 29 MAR 10:40 2016. CREATED: 20 MAR 06:41 2016

I concur with that. Practically identical to the previous Bars-M
Title: Re: Cosmos 25XX - Bars-M #2, Soyuz-2-1A, Plesetsk
Post by: amez on 03/23/2016 06:08 PM
http://izvestia.ru/news/607311/
Title: Re: Cosmos 25XX - Bars-M #2, Soyuz-2-1A, Plesetsk
Post by: Phillip Clark on 03/23/2016 06:16 PM
I dream that the launch will be shown "live" online ............
Title: Re: Cosmos 25XX - Bars-M #2, Soyuz-2-1A, Plesetsk
Post by: russianhalo117 on 03/23/2016 06:24 PM
I dream that the launch will be shown "live" online ............
I know but extremely unlikely.
Title: Re: Cosmos 25XX - Bars-M #2, Soyuz-2-1A, Plesetsk
Post by: Alter Sachse on 03/23/2016 07:36 PM
First Bars-M was launched 11:01:35.
The second ~10:00 if I understand correctly ? (Planned launch time)
Title: Re: Cosmos 25XX - Bars-M #2, Soyuz-2-1A, Plesetsk
Post by: russianhalo117 on 03/23/2016 07:55 PM
First Bars-M was launched 11:01:35.
The second ~10:00 if I understand correctly ? (Planned launch time)
yes
Title: Re: Cosmos 25XX - Bars-M #2, Soyuz-2-1A, Plesetsk
Post by: Phillip Clark on 03/23/2016 07:58 PM
Since the second Bars-M was originally scheduled for launch in August 2015, I wonder why there has been a delay of seven months?   Maybe the August date was in case the first Bars-M had a failure and a second one was ready to launch at fairly short notice?

The new launch should be Cosmos 2515, unless the Russians have twiddled the Cosmos numbers again. ;)
Title: Re: Cosmos 25XX - Bars-M #2, Soyuz-2-1A, Plesetsk
Post by: Alter Sachse on 03/23/2016 08:10 PM
Perhaps the error at the Progress M27M launch the reason ?
Title: Re: Cosmos 25XX - Bars-M #2, Soyuz-2-1A, Plesetsk
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 03/24/2016 04:47 AM
http://izvestia.ru/news/607311/

That link says launch at 1 p.m. March 24 (10:00 UTC if my calculations are correct).  That's over four hours from now.
Title: Re: Cosmos 25XX - Bars-M #2, Soyuz-2-1A, Plesetsk
Post by: Phillip Clark on 03/24/2016 05:47 AM
Perhaps the error at the Progress M27M launch the reason ?

That led to delays of about six weeks for the final launches in the Kobalt-M and Kvarts programmes, so I would have expected a similar delay to September 2015 for Bars-M #2 - pushing it to September-October 2015.
Title: Re: Cosmos 25XX - Bars-M #2, Soyuz-2-1A, Plesetsk
Post by: input~2 on 03/24/2016 06:23 AM
Flight path
Title: Re: Cosmos 25XX - Bars-M #2, Soyuz-2-1A, Plesetsk
Post by: input~2 on 03/24/2016 06:39 AM
With reference to previous Bars-M lift-off time vs NOTAMed period, launch is possible from 0941 UTC
Title: Re: Cosmos 25XX - Bars-M #2, Soyuz-2-1A, Plesetsk
Post by: amez on 03/24/2016 07:21 AM
Flight path
Title: Re: Cosmos 25XX - Bars-M #2, Soyuz-2-1A, Plesetsk, March 24 (?), 2016
Post by: amez on 03/24/2016 07:57 AM
Bars-M 09:42 UT (http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/messages/forum12/topic15314/message1491208/#message1491208)
Title: Re: Cosmos 25XX - Bars-M #2, Soyuz-2-1A, Plesetsk, March 24 (?), 2016
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 03/24/2016 08:38 AM
Bars-M 09:42 UT (http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/messages/forum12/topic15314/message1491208/#message1491208)

Well that's the issue settled! The spacecraft separation time is given as 09:50:48 UTC.
Title: Re: Soyuz-2.1a - Bars-M #2 - Plesetsk - March 24, 2016 (09:42 UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 03/24/2016 08:46 AM
Liftoff confirmed per reports at NK!
Title: Re: Soyuz-2.1a - Bars-M #2 - Plesetsk - March 24, 2016 (09:42 UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 03/24/2016 08:54 AM
Launch time of 09:42 uTC confirmed
http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20160324/1396045487.html
Title: Re: Soyuz-2.1a - Bars-M #2 - Plesetsk - March 24, 2016 (09:42 UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 03/24/2016 08:57 AM
"Successfully launched into orbit"
http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20160324/1396049855.html
Title: Re: Cosmos 25XX - Bars-M #2, Soyuz-2-1A, Plesetsk
Post by: Alter Sachse on 03/24/2016 11:02 AM
Notice in Anik’s serial numbers 76058161/31М135С listed under fairing 14С744. So is that the serial number of the rocket too?
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=36777.msg1493825#msg1493825
Your guess was correct !
Title: Re: Soyuz-2.1a - Bars-M #2 - Plesetsk - March 24, 2016 (09:42 UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 03/24/2016 11:47 AM
2 objects cataloged from this launch

2016-020A/41394 in 327 x 540 km x 97.65°
2016-020B/41395 in 327 x 542 km x 97.64°
Title: Re: Soyuz-2.1a - Bars-M #2 - Plesetsk - March 24, 2016 (09:42 UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 03/24/2016 04:04 PM
It's an unusually clear day at Plesetsk: (http://xn--80ahclcogc6ci4h.xn--90anlfbebar6i.xn--p1ai/multimedia/photo/gallery.htm?id=28657@cmsPhotoGallery)

 
Title: Re: Soyuz-2.1a - Bars-M #2 - Plesetsk - March 24, 2016 (09:42 UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 03/24/2016 04:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGXy1S2bECw