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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #402 on: 03/06/2013 05:41 am »
Thanks Satori. In summary Qaem (1000 kg with 12 transponders) to be launched in the next five years to geosynchronous orbit and IranSat 1 (700 kg) in two and half years by Simorgh to low Earth orbit.
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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #403 on: 03/06/2013 05:54 am »
In summary Qaem (1000 kg with 12 transponders) to be launched in the next five years to geosynchronous orbit a

I wonder WHICH country will launch the Geo comsat for Iran. China?

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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #404 on: 03/06/2013 10:36 am »
In summary Qaem (1000 kg with 12 transponders) to be launched in the next five years to geosynchronous orbit a

I wonder WHICH country will launch the Geo comsat for Iran. China?

you kidding me ! right ?
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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #406 on: 03/07/2013 04:11 am »
I wonder WHICH country will launch the Geo comsat for Iran. China?

No. They will be launched by Iran.
« Last Edit: 03/07/2013 04:12 am by Steven Pietrobon »
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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #407 on: 03/07/2013 06:17 am »
I wonder WHICH country will launch the Geo comsat for Iran. China?

No. They will be launched by Iran.

Steven,

Do yo REALY believe that Iran will built a reliable launcher for GTO in the comming 5 years or so?

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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #408 on: 03/07/2013 06:42 am »
I wonder WHICH country will launch the Geo comsat for Iran. China?

No. They will be launched by Iran.

Steven,

Do yo REALY believe that Iran will built a reliable launcher for GTO in the comming 5 years or so?

I don't think so - 1 tonne to GTO would require something bigger than a Delta 3000 series (especially with the restrictions on the launch path from Iranian territory). That said I also think no other countries would assist them to launch it - not even China (if they are willing to launch it then I think the Iranians will likely to go further and order a bigger satellite from the Chinese).....  ::)
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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #409 on: 03/07/2013 01:13 pm »
Haven't seen this before...

Nahid satellite to launch early summer.
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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #411 on: 03/08/2013 04:04 am »
I wonder WHICH country will launch the Geo comsat for Iran. China?
No. They will be launched by Iran.
Do yo REALY believe that Iran will built a reliable launcher for GTO in the coming 5 years or so?

It took the US six years from their first satellite launch to their first geosynchronous satellite (1958 to 1964). I believe it took the Soviets even longer at 18 years (1957 to 1974), although they were using Molniya orbits from 1965 (9 years). The Iranians are currently at Juno II level capability.

To get 1000 kg into GEO, they would need a pretty large vehicle. Simorgh will be too small. Maybe they will cluster Simorgh into a three (or more) core vehicle like Falcon Heavy. If they take this approach instead of designing a new vehicle, I think it is possible for them to have this class launcher in five years.

Haven't seen this before...
Nahid satellite to launch early summer.

Thanks Satori. So early Summer would be June 2013 (unless Iran has a different definition for Summer), with this being the first launch of Simorgh.
« Last Edit: 03/08/2013 04:17 am by Steven Pietrobon »
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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #412 on: 03/08/2013 06:02 am »
Completed launches

Date - Satellite(s) - Rocket - Launch Site - Time (UTC)


2008.08.17 - Omid - Safir-1 - Semnan - launch failure
2009.02.02 - Omid - Safir-1 - Semnan - 18:34
2011.06.15 - Rasad - Safir-1A - Semnan - 9:15:03
2012.02.03 - Navid Elm-o-Sana't - Safir-1B - Semnan - 00:04
2012.05.23 - Fajr #1 - Safir-1B - Semnan - launch failure
2012.09.22 - Fajr #2 - Safir-1B - Semnan - launch failure
2013.02.17-18 - Fajr #3 - Safir-1B - Semnan - launch failure

Planned launches

Date - Satellite(s) - Rocket - Launch Site - Time (UTC)

2013

March-April - Sharif - Safir-1B - Semnan
NLT March 20 early summer - Nahid - Safir-1B Simorgh (Safir-2A) - Semnan
summer - Zafar - Simorgh (Safir-2A) - Semnan
NLT September 20 - Fajr - Safir-1B - Semnan

2014
NLT March - AutSat (A Test, Amir Kabir-1, RU300) - Simorgh (Safir-2A) - Semnan
NLT March - Tolou - Simorgh (Safir-2A) - Semnan
NLT March - Mesbah-2 - TBD - Semnan

2015
TBD - Pars 2 - TBD - TBD
2014-2018 TBD - IranSat 1 - Simorgh (Phoenix)  - TBD

2018
TBD - Qaem (GSO communication satellite) - TBD - TBD

Unclear:
TBD - Masud 2 & Rasad 2 - Simorgh (Safir-2A) - Semnan
TBD - Parsmehr - TBD - TBD
TBD - Ayaat - TBD - TBD
TBD - Saar - TBD - TBD
2015-2018 - IranSat 2 - Simorgh (Phoenix) - TBD
2015-2018 - IranSat 3 - Simorgh (Phoenix) - TBD
2019-2024 - manned launch - TBD - TBD

Changes on March 8th
Changes on March 9th
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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #413 on: 03/08/2013 06:44 am »
"Nahid is the first Iranian satellite with splayed solar panels to be launched for imaging by Simorgh."

http://www.yjc.ir/en/news/277/nahid-satellite-to-launch-early-summer

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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #414 on: 03/08/2013 06:48 am »
I wonder WHICH country will launch the Geo comsat for Iran. China?

No. They will be launched by Iran.

Steven,

Do yo REALY believe that Iran will built a reliable launcher for GTO in the comming 5 years or so?

Iransat-3 250 kg >>> 2017

Qaem - 1-1.8 ton >>> 2019-2020
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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #415 on: 03/09/2013 03:27 pm »
All those launch manifests are nice try to create some order in the chaotic Iranian speeches and declarations regarding space.

However,  the experience teaches as that they have relatively very loose connection and correlation with reality, and I for one does not consider Iranian declarations as valuable at all, regarding FUTURE space activities. (see for example Fajr, Touloo, Simorg, the inauguration of the new Khomeini space center et. etc.)

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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #416 on: 03/09/2013 04:00 pm »
All those launch manifests are nice try to create some order in the chaotic Iranian speeches and declarations regarding space.

However,  the experience teaches as that they have relatively very loose connection and correlation with reality, and I for one does not consider Iranian declarations as valuable at all, regarding FUTURE space activities. (see for example Fajr, Touloo, Simorg, the inauguration of the new Khomeini space center et. etc.)

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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #417 on: 03/09/2013 04:18 pm »
All those launch manifests are nice try to create some order in the chaotic Iranian speeches and declarations regarding space.

However,  the experience teaches as that they have relatively very loose connection and correlation with reality, and I for one does not consider Iranian declarations as valuable at all, regarding FUTURE space activities. (see for example Fajr, Touloo, Simorg, the inauguration of the new Khomeini space center et. etc.)

where are you from ?

Is that important?

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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #418 on: 03/09/2013 04:25 pm »
Is that important?

sometimes
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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #419 on: 03/09/2013 05:30 pm »
where am I from?

I think it is obvious that comets comes from the outer rims of the solar system...

 

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