Quote from: FinalFrontier on 07/21/2012 12:20 amI think if we get out of LEO in the next 15 years that alone will be a miracle at this point. Manned HSF ofc, not robotics missions. Yeah, I barely care what destination it is, as long as we do it. (and as long as it is not just a repeat of the past)
I think if we get out of LEO in the next 15 years that alone will be a miracle at this point. Manned HSF ofc, not robotics missions.
Even more importantly, if you're travelling any distance to reach those un-shadowed, or reflectance-lit areas, you'll be travelling through shadowed areas to get to themOverall, though, I think this will be hugely stressful and dangerous location to work from....Low-lying areas could get very cold, even if they see short periods of low-incidence sunlight every month. I wonder if that could be dangerous if someone wanders into such an area without realising - either to their feet or if they fall?cheers, Martin
Quote from: Robotbeat on 07/21/2012 08:14 pmQuote from: FinalFrontier on 07/21/2012 12:20 amI think if we get out of LEO in the next 15 years that alone will be a miracle at this point. Manned HSF ofc, not robotics missions. Yeah, I barely care what destination it is, as long as we do it. (and as long as it is not just a repeat of the past).. So... Chris, Am I wrong that you seem to be coming around to the view that some Lunar ISRU might be a good, near-term plan ?
...needs to be ground truthed by droids first, ...
Voted Moon only. I consider that to include cislunar space (L1 & L2). Focus. The rest will have to wait.
Whatever the path to get there, Mars. Nothing goes as smoothly or quickly as it does in powerpoint, "and then" too easily becomes "not for another couple decades." I don't want July 20, 2069 to roll around with no human footprints on the Red Planet.
Quote from: Warren Platts on 07/22/2012 02:47 amQuote from: Robotbeat on 07/21/2012 08:14 pmQuote from: FinalFrontier on 07/21/2012 12:20 amI think if we get out of LEO in the next 15 years that alone will be a miracle at this point. Manned HSF ofc, not robotics missions. Yeah, I barely care what destination it is, as long as we do it. (and as long as it is not just a repeat of the past).. So... Chris, Am I wrong that you seem to be coming around to the view that some Lunar ISRU might be a good, near-term plan ?Yes, you are wrong. I'm certainly not opposed if some folks want to give it a shot, though.
Has anyone done any investigation of the problem of contact with super cold regolith? Several people here have brought it up but I have never seen any concern/mitigation mentioned in any lunar proposals, manned or unmanned.