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Re: Expedition 21 thread (October 11 - December 1, 2009)
« Reply #20 on: 09/17/2009 11:01 AM »
Anik,

in the Dutch language a pre-word to a name (like 'de' in 'Frank de Winne') is usually not written in Capitals except when it is the first part of the name written.

Hence:
If you write Frank de Winne, the 'de' is not written with a Capital d.
If you write De Winne, (leaving out the Frank part) the 'De' is the first part of the name and hence gets Capitalized.

I know, it's a funny language.
;)

I always consider space to be the FIRST frontier.

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Re: Expedition 21 thread (October 11 - December 1, 2009)
« Reply #21 on: 09/17/2009 03:05 PM »
One Percent for Space!!!

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Re: Expedition 21 thread (October 11 - December 1, 2009)
« Reply #22 on: 09/17/2009 05:30 PM »
 Expedition 21 - Spaceflight Participant Crew Departure from Star City
http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5389

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Re: Expedition 21 thread (October 11 - December 1, 2009)
« Reply #23 on: 09/17/2009 07:03 PM »
Many thanks for detailed explanation, Spiff! :)

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Re: Expedition 21 thread (October 11 - December 1, 2009)
« Reply #24 on: 09/17/2009 10:36 PM »
Anik,

in the Dutch language a pre-word to a name (like 'de' in 'Frank de Winne') is usually not written in Capitals except when it is the first part of the name written.

Hence:
If you write Frank de Winne, the 'de' is not written with a Capital d.
If you write De Winne, (leaving out the Frank part) the 'De' is the first part of the name and hence gets Capitalized.

I know, it's a funny language.
;)

This may be true in The Netherlands, but unfortunately for your explanation, Frank is a Belgian. In Belgium, you will see Frank De Winne always written with a capital D, since that's the only correct spelling. In a database, it will not come under the "W" section, but the "D" section. It's a common mix up between Dutch from The Netherlands and Belgian Dutch. As a side note, in Belgium writing a lower case "d" could imply that Frank is a descendant of a noble family. Funnily, he's not a descendant, but he became noble after the Belgian king gave him a title of viscount (in Dutch "burggraaf" and in French "vicomte") after his first spaceflight in 2002. Nevertheless this title will not be inherited by his children.
Sorry Spiff, but being a Belgian I had to correct this small misunderstanding. Especially when it comes to be assimilated to the Dutch culture ;) . No hard feelings...  ;D

And for Anik: the only correct way is Frank De Winne.
Greetings from little Belgium.
« Last Edit: 09/17/2009 10:41 PM by Solar_OPS »

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Re: Expedition 21 thread (October 11 - December 1, 2009)
« Reply #25 on: 09/17/2009 11:41 PM »
Anik,

in the Dutch language a pre-word to a name (like 'de' in 'Frank de Winne') is usually not written in Capitals except when it is the first part of the name written.

Hence:
If you write Frank de Winne, the 'de' is not written with a Capital d.
If you write De Winne, (leaving out the Frank part) the 'De' is the first part of the name and hence gets Capitalized.

I know, it's a funny language.
;)

This may be true in The Netherlands, but unfortunately for your explanation, Frank is a Belgian. In Belgium, you will see Frank De Winne always written with a capital D, since that's the only correct spelling. In a database, it will not come under the "W" section, but the "D" section. It's a common mix up between Dutch from The Netherlands and Belgian Dutch. As a side note, in Belgium writing a lower case "d" could imply that Frank is a descendant of a noble family. Funnily, he's not a descendant, but he became noble after the Belgian king gave him a title of viscount (in Dutch "burggraaf" and in French "vicomte") after his first spaceflight in 2002. Nevertheless this title will not be inherited by his children.
Sorry Spiff, but being a Belgian I had to correct this small misunderstanding. Especially when it comes to be assimilated to the Dutch culture ;) . No hard feelings...  ;D

And for Anik: the only correct way is Frank De Winne.
Greetings from little Belgium.
Now where's Hercule Poirot when you need him? ;)

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Re: Expedition 21 thread (October 11 - December 1, 2009)
« Reply #26 on: 09/18/2009 11:44 AM »
Anik,

in the Dutch language a pre-word to a name (like 'de' in 'Frank de Winne') is usually not written in Capitals except when it is the first part of the name written.

Hence:
If you write Frank de Winne, the 'de' is not written with a Capital d.
If you write De Winne, (leaving out the Frank part) the 'De' is the first part of the name and hence gets Capitalized.

I know, it's a funny language.
;)

This may be true in The Netherlands, but unfortunately for your explanation, Frank is a Belgian. In Belgium, you will see Frank De Winne always written with a capital D, since that's the only correct spelling. In a database, it will not come under the "W" section, but the "D" section. It's a common mix up between Dutch from The Netherlands and Belgian Dutch. As a side note, in Belgium writing a lower case "d" could imply that Frank is a descendant of a noble family. Funnily, he's not a descendant, but he became noble after the Belgian king gave him a title of viscount (in Dutch "burggraaf" and in French "vicomte") after his first spaceflight in 2002. Nevertheless this title will not be inherited by his children.
Sorry Spiff, but being a Belgian I had to correct this small misunderstanding. Especially when it comes to be assimilated to the Dutch culture ;) . No hard feelings...  ;D

And for Anik: the only correct way is Frank De Winne.
Greetings from little Belgium.

I stand corrected. I didn't know that this was different in Flemish than in Dutch. Thanks Solar_OPS for your correction. ;)
I always consider space to be the FIRST frontier.

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Re: Expedition 21 thread (October 11 - December 1, 2009)
« Reply #27 on: 09/18/2009 01:47 PM »
And for Anik: the only correct way is Frank De Winne.
Greetings from little Belgium

Many thanks, Solar_OPS! It is very nice to get answer to this question from a Belgian! And greetings from big Russia. :)


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Re: Expedition 21 thread (October 11 - December 1, 2009)
« Reply #29 on: 09/19/2009 06:31 PM »
AAaaargh....

International "Talk like a pirate day" has surfaced on the ISS com links today. :)

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Re: Expedition 21 thread (October 11 - December 1, 2009)
« Reply #30 on: 09/22/2009 01:40 PM »
not sure if this is the right place... current live snap from ISS... no reason.. just a nice view...
One Percent for Space!!!

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Re: Expedition 21 thread (October 11 - December 1, 2009)
« Reply #31 on: 09/28/2009 04:12 PM »
And this is a good reminder that just because one of your fellow space enthusiasts occasionally voices doubts about the SpaceX schedule announcements or is cautious about believing SpaceX has licked a problem before actually seeing proof that's true, it doesn't mean they hate SpaceX.

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Re: Expedition 21 thread (October 11 - December 1, 2009)
« Reply #32 on: 09/28/2009 05:11 PM »
 Expedition 21/Spaceflight Participant Crew Activities in Baikonur, Kazakhstan And Soyuz Rocket Mating and Rollout
http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5409

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Re: Expedition 21 thread (October 11 - December 1, 2009)
« Reply #33 on: 09/29/2009 05:41 PM »
 Expedition 21- Spaceflight Participant Crew News Conference and Russian State Commission Meeting
http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5410

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Re: Expedition 21 thread (October 11 - December 1, 2009)
« Reply #34 on: 09/29/2009 08:49 PM »
Less then 11 hours to the launch  of the Expedition 21 crew. 
Nasa has on their website just released the Expedition21/22 Press
Kit!!!!
However  NASA still has not updated their Expedition21 web page
with the crew's interviews .

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Re: Expedition 21 thread (October 11 - December 1, 2009)
« Reply #35 on: 09/30/2009 07:36 AM »
 Expedition 21 - Spaceflight Participant Launch
http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5413

 Expedition 21 - Spaceflight Participant Launch Replays
http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5414

 Expedition 21- Spaceflight Participant Pre-Launch Activities Launch and Post-Launch Interviews from Baikonur
http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5415
« Last Edit: 09/30/2009 11:14 AM by John44 »

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Re: Expedition 21 thread (October 11 - December 1, 2009)
« Reply #36 on: 09/30/2009 03:27 PM »
And this is a good reminder that just because one of your fellow space enthusiasts occasionally voices doubts about the SpaceX schedule announcements or is cautious about believing SpaceX has licked a problem before actually seeing proof that's true, it doesn't mean they hate SpaceX.

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Re: Expedition 21 thread (October 11 - December 1, 2009)
« Reply #38 on: 10/02/2009 01:05 PM »
 Expedition 21 - Spaceflight Participant Docking to the ISS
http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5418

 Expedition 21 - Spaceflight Participant - Post-Docking News Conference
http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5419

 Expedition 21- Spaceflight Participant Hatch Opening and Welcoming Ceremony by Expedition 20
http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5420


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Re: Expedition 21 thread (October 11 - December 1, 2009)
« Reply #39 on: 10/06/2009 05:08 PM »
ESA PR 24-2009. ESA astronaut Frank De Winne will become the first European commander of the International Space Station this weekend, after the current commander Russian cosmonaut Gennady Padalka has left the ISS.

Read more:
http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEMA2BXRA0G_index_0.html

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