well i was going to post this https://phys.org/news/2018-01-device-negative-massand-lasers.html but i guess it is the same thing. Still; it gets the weird effect thing across doesn't it?So this is yet another way to get negative mass/energy whether just apparent or really real.
Quote from: Stormbringer on 01/15/2018 03:07 pmwell i was going to post this https://phys.org/news/2018-01-device-negative-massand-lasers.html but i guess it is the same thing. Still; it gets the weird effect thing across doesn't it?So this is yet another way to get negative mass/energy whether just apparent or really real.Interesting article and comments following article. No posts for three days in this thread - hmmm - or did I miss a switch to a new thread??graybeardsyseng
Quote from: graybeardsyseng on 01/18/2018 10:44 amQuote from: Stormbringer on 01/15/2018 03:07 pmwell i was going to post this https://phys.org/news/2018-01-device-negative-massand-lasers.html but i guess it is the same thing. Still; it gets the weird effect thing across doesn't it?So this is yet another way to get negative mass/energy whether just apparent or really real.Interesting article and comments following article. No posts for three days in this thread - hmmm - or did I miss a switch to a new thread??graybeardsysengnope. It's really weird. I was feeling guilty because I thought I broke it or posted something so out of bounds it drove everyone away or have really bad personal hygiene or something.
Quote from: Stormbringer on 01/18/2018 04:35 pmQuote from: graybeardsyseng on 01/18/2018 10:44 amQuote from: Stormbringer on 01/15/2018 03:07 pmwell i was going to post this https://phys.org/news/2018-01-device-negative-massand-lasers.html but i guess it is the same thing. Still; it gets the weird effect thing across doesn't it?So this is yet another way to get negative mass/energy whether just apparent or really real.Interesting article and comments following article. No posts for three days in this thread - hmmm - or did I miss a switch to a new thread??graybeardsysengnope. It's really weird. I was feeling guilty because I thought I broke it or posted something so out of bounds it drove everyone away or have really bad personal hygiene or something. Right? A couple of years ago we had multiple experimenters all committing to getting to the bottom of this. Now it's like they all disappeared and nothing new is being reported. Peter? Jamie? Shells? Crickets!
Right? A couple of years ago we had multiple experimenters all committing to getting to the bottom of this. Now it's like they all disappeared and nothing new is being reported. Peter? Jamie? Shells? Crickets!
I believe they will be in Philadelphia in May.
A public conference?
Quote from: Bob Woods on 01/19/2018 01:54 amA public conference?It is a competition: https://www.crazynauka.pl/explory-2017-znamy-juz-zwyciezcow-tego-konkursu-naukowego/
I recently checked, if there is some development about the EmDrive and I found out that two days ago many russian news sites posted about something in China...."Scientists from the Chinese Academy of Sciences explained why the work of the EmDrive sensational engine is in full compliance with the laws of physics. Previously, specialists did not take into account the strengths of the horizontal components when calculating the thrust, erroneously claiming a violation of the laws of physics by a unique engine.Until now, calculation of thrust EmDrive took into account only 2 vertical forces, while the horizontal components were completely ignored. It is the consideration of all the above elements of the formula that avoids the erroneous opinion about the violation of the laws of physics by the sensational engine, scientists from CAS emphasize. EmDrive looks like an ordinary gilded bucket. The author of the project assured the scientific community of the ability of a unique engine to convert radiation into cravings. Since 1999 (the moment of invention EmDrive) disputes about the peculiarities of engine operation and its "relationships" with the laws of physics have not abated."...
The principle of the EmDrive engine does not violate the laws of physics. The secrets of his work were explained by Chinese scientists....However, the concept of motion without reactive ejection of mass does not dovetail with the Newtonian law of conservation of momentum. In accordance with this within the closed system, the linear and angular momenta remain constant values, regardless of the changes occurring within this system. That is, if you do not apply an external force to the body, then you can not move it from its place.
These sentences simply contradict each other, unless the first one also left out saying "the emDrive does nothing useful." The so-called explanation in between still describes "motion without reactive ejection of mass."
Just this morning I noticed the NovaTech banner advertisement that supports every single NSF webpage view in the top right corner.Even though I've seen it tens of thousands of times by now, I finally took a moment to actually look at their banner ad. It turns out that they are an engineering company that specializes in developing customized force measurement solutions.https://www.novatechloadcells.co.ukHow appropriate is that?!?It sure would be nice if they'd participate in our Emdrive design and measurement discussions. *hint hint mods*
Quote from: sghill on 01/22/2018 11:21 amJust this morning I noticed the NovaTech banner advertisement that supports every single NSF webpage view in the top right corner.Even though I've seen it tens of thousands of times by now, I finally took a moment to actually look at their banner ad. It turns out that they are an engineering company that specializes in developing customized force measurement solutions.https://www.novatechloadcells.co.ukHow appropriate is that?!?It sure would be nice if they'd participate in our Emdrive design and measurement discussions. *hint hint mods*Perhaps because I am using an iOS device but I found no banner ad of any kind at the linked page.., or several layers deeper from that page?
Quote from: OnlyMe on 01/23/2018 03:40 pmQuote from: sghill on 01/22/2018 11:21 amJust this morning I noticed the NovaTech banner advertisement that supports every single NSF webpage view in the top right corner.Even though I've seen it tens of thousands of times by now, I finally took a moment to actually look at their banner ad. It turns out that they are an engineering company that specializes in developing customized force measurement solutions.https://www.novatechloadcells.co.ukHow appropriate is that?!?It sure would be nice if they'd participate in our Emdrive design and measurement discussions. *hint hint mods*Perhaps because I am using an iOS device but I found no banner ad of any kind at the linked page.., or several layers deeper from that page?The banner ad is on THIS page. Clicking on the ad takes you to the page that was linked.
I have contacted them in the past. Their instrumentation is capable of measurement at this scale. Very helpful and responded right away to my inquiry.Exchanged private message with RERT at the time, he provided this link; www.micronewton.co.uk/info.htmlThis was some time ago, I haven't built anything suitable for experimentation yet...
Quote from: D_Dom on 01/23/2018 03:45 pmI have contacted them in the past. Their instrumentation is capable of measurement at this scale. Very helpful and responded right away to my inquiry.Exchanged private message with RERT at the time, he provided this link; www.micronewton.co.uk/info.htmlThis was some time ago, I haven't built anything suitable for experimentation yet...Nice that it can measure micro-Newtons, but my MEGA Drive weighs 1.4 kg. This load cell can't support the weight of the device AND measure the forces. Any suggestions? It would be nice to have a device that can hang a MEGA and measure such small changes in weight.