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MOOSE (Man Out Of Space Easiest)
« on: 02/13/2011 03:54 PM »
The 'Astronaut stranded in space' topic that got shut down up in Discussions-- got me thinking about a peculiar piece of history....
http://astronautix.com/craft/moose.htm

Anyone want to try this out?

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Re: MOOSE (Man Out Of Space Easiest)
« Reply #1 on: 02/14/2011 05:04 AM »
     I and any other number of people on this forum would give it a go on the next shuttle mission, duh :)

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Re: MOOSE (Man Out Of Space Easiest)
« Reply #2 on: 02/14/2011 05:52 AM »
Would the plasma recirculate and BBQ you from the other side??  Would suck if you somehow got into a tumble, I'd have to assume that any stability would be passive.

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Re: MOOSE (Man Out Of Space Easiest)
« Reply #3 on: 02/14/2011 07:16 AM »
aaah... the days of moose..
But how about a lunar escape?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Escape_Systems

That would have been fun. Use the LESS with a slightly bigger engine to escape from the moon and return to earth and then use the MOOSE.. talk about the right stuff
« Last Edit: 02/14/2011 07:17 AM by Hoonte »

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Re: MOOSE (Man Out Of Space Easiest)
« Reply #4 on: 02/15/2011 04:59 PM »
aaah... the days of moose..
But how about a lunar escape?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Escape_Systems

That would have been fun. Use the LESS with a slightly bigger engine to escape from the moon and return to earth and then use the MOOSE.. talk about the right stuff

Ha!  Looks a bit like Armadillo's "Pixel".  :)

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Re: MOOSE (Man Out Of Space Easiest)
« Reply #5 on: 11/18/2011 04:18 AM »
Probably the best description of M.O.O.S.E. I've ever read:

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After all, MOOSE stands for "Man Out Of Space Easiest." Not "quickest" or "safest" or "sanest," just "easiest." Somebody asked the question: "What's the easiest way to get a man out of space?"

And the answer, of course, was "F*ck him. Let him fall."

http://www.cracked.com/article_19545_6-terrifying-emergency-escape-pods-that-arent-worth-it.html

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Re: MOOSE (Man Out Of Space Easiest)
« Reply #6 on: 11/18/2011 05:04 AM »
Probably the best description of M.O.O.S.E. I've ever read:

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After all, MOOSE stands for "Man Out Of Space Easiest." Not "quickest" or "safest" or "sanest," just "easiest." Somebody asked the question: "What's the easiest way to get a man out of space?"

And the answer, of course, was "F*ck him. Let him fall."

http://www.cracked.com/article_19545_6-terrifying-emergency-escape-pods-that-arent-worth-it.html

Thanks, I needed that.  :-)

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Re: MOOSE (Man Out Of Space Easiest)
« Reply #7 on: 11/18/2011 12:53 PM »
I love this Soyuz T-10-1 quote in the article:
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When interviewed later, the commander said the first thing he did after the Launch Escape System initiated was turn off the cockpit voice recorder, because "we were [just] swearing."
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Re: MOOSE (Man Out Of Space Easiest)
« Reply #8 on: 11/20/2011 02:37 PM »
I love this Soyuz T-10-1 quote in the article:
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When interviewed later, the commander said the first thing he did after the Launch Escape System initiated was turn off the cockpit voice recorder, because "we were [just] swearing."

I presume that would be at least a few seconds after they were pulled off the rocket, since they must have been experiencing very high g's at the time of initiating. There's no chance of turning any knob at 14 to 17g. So a couple of &%^%#@%#!!!'s might have been grunted before they were able to switch the recorder off..
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Re: MOOSE (Man Out Of Space Easiest)
« Reply #9 on: 11/20/2011 08:03 PM »
I love this Soyuz T-10-1 quote in the article:
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When interviewed later, the commander said the first thing he did after the Launch Escape System initiated was turn off the cockpit voice recorder, because "we were [just] swearing."

I presume that would be at least a few seconds after they were pulled off the rocket, since they must have been experiencing very high g's at the time of initiating. There's no chance of turning any knob at 14 to 17g. So a couple of &%^%#@%#!!!'s might have been grunted before they were able to switch the recorder off..

are you able to talk at 14-17g?
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Re: MOOSE (Man Out Of Space Easiest)
« Reply #10 on: 11/20/2011 08:13 PM »
Probably the best description of M.O.O.S.E. I've ever read:

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After all, MOOSE stands for "Man Out Of Space Easiest." Not "quickest" or "safest" or "sanest," just "easiest." Somebody asked the question: "What's the easiest way to get a man out of space?"

And the answer, of course, was "F*ck him. Let him fall."

http://www.cracked.com/article_19545_6-terrifying-emergency-escape-pods-that-arent-worth-it.html
I don't understand the title of the article.
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Re: MOOSE (Man Out Of Space Easiest)
« Reply #11 on: 11/23/2011 04:07 PM »
are you able to talk at 14-17g?

When Alan Shepard returned from his little hop into space he took a load of about 12g. He could manage to grunt a few "I'm OK"'s to the guys at the Cape but couldn't really talk. So, I guess, since most swearing is just grunts and plain verbally abusive, it doesn't matter that much.

But I presume with the Soyuz, it all happened after reaching their highest point in the climb, before falling down again the were able to switch off the recorder and start swearing. But that would have taken just a couple of tens of seconds. The fall back on the parachute though was long enough to turn the air blue, I guess.
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Re: MOOSE (Man Out Of Space Easiest)
« Reply #12 on: 11/23/2011 08:59 PM »
aaah... the days of moose..
But how about a lunar escape?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Escape_Systems

That would have been fun. Use the LESS with a slightly bigger engine to escape from the moon and return to earth and then use the MOOSE.. talk about the right stuff

Ha!  Looks a bit like Armadillo's "Pixel".  :)
LESS seems crazy but it's better then being marooned on the Moon which would have been a death sentence.
It's not too much more insane then the Langley lightest lander concept.
http://www.astronautix.com/craft/lmlhtest.htm
With modern guidance LESS would not be much more crazy then the SpaceDev rocket chair.
http://www.astronautix.com/craft/rocchair.htm
« Last Edit: 11/23/2011 09:03 PM by Patchouli »

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Re: MOOSE (Man Out Of Space Easiest)
« Reply #13 on: 11/23/2011 09:24 PM »
are you able to talk at 14-17g?

When Alan Shepard returned from his little hop into space he took a load of about 12g. He could manage to grunt a few "I'm OK"'s to the guys at the Cape but couldn't really talk. So, I guess, since most swearing is just grunts and plain verbally abusive, it doesn't matter that much.

But I presume with the Soyuz, it all happened after reaching their highest point in the climb, before falling down again the were able to switch off the recorder and start swearing. But that would have taken just a couple of tens of seconds. The fall back on the parachute though was long enough to turn the air blue, I guess.

thanks :)
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Re: MOOSE (Man Out Of Space Easiest)
« Reply #14 on: 11/24/2011 03:07 AM »
It wouldn't start off at 17 gees.  The full SAS weighed about a tenth of its own thrust by itself - at least, the original version did, and by my calculations the original specs line up reasonably well with a peak acceleration of 17 gees right before burnout.  I suspect the initial acceleration was closer to 7 gees, maybe 8.
« Last Edit: 11/24/2011 03:23 AM by 93143 »

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Re: MOOSE (Man Out Of Space Easiest)
« Reply #15 on: 11/24/2011 04:27 AM »
Probably the best description of M.O.O.S.E. I've ever read:

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After all, MOOSE stands for "Man Out Of Space Easiest." Not "quickest" or "safest" or "sanest," just "easiest." Somebody asked the question: "What's the easiest way to get a man out of space?"

And the answer, of course, was "F*ck him. Let him fall."

http://www.cracked.com/article_19545_6-terrifying-emergency-escape-pods-that-arent-worth-it.html

Thanks, I needed that.  :-)

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